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Wed May 2, 2018, 03:58 PM

How Non-Black People Can Talk About Kanye While Staying in their Lane

Well worth the read—for those still engaged in learning about racial discussions, and if you haven’t followed that hashtag you are missing out. I’m dying.

As the entirety of the internet seems to be discussing Kanye West’s most recent asshattery and all of black twitter seems to be heartily enjoying #IfSlaveryWasAChoice shenanegans, you, a concerned non-black person may be wondering…how do I join in this discussion?

Maybe you were a big fan of Kanye’s music and now you feel personally let down by how hard he’s trying to be the absolute worst.

Maybe you are a decent human who recognizes that Trump and his administration are hateful trashmonsters working diligently to make marginalized populations (and like, half of the global population) more unsafe and you are concerned to see a high profile music idol sing his praises to the delight of countless racist trolls.

Maybe you have read a book or two in your life or have a shred of empathy or are not completely drowning in anti-blackness - or due to being a human being walking around in the world you able to guess that 99.9% of humans do not like being dragged across the world in chains, bought and sold, tortured their entire lives, forced to work for free, starved, raped, and murdered - and have realized that black people were most likely not slaves by choice.

https://medium.com/IjeomaOluo/how-non-black-people-can-talk-about-kanye-while-staying-in-their-lane-cb34b05fc84e

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Reply How Non-Black People Can Talk About Kanye While Staying in their Lane (Original post)
ismnotwasm May 2018 OP
Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #1
50 Shades Of Blue May 2018 #3
NCTraveler May 2018 #4
bettyellen May 2018 #6
wasupaloopa May 2018 #17
bettyellen May 2018 #27
EffieBlack May 2018 #29
wasupaloopa May 2018 #35
kwassa May 2018 #36
EffieBlack May 2018 #38
LanternWaste May 2018 #7
Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #9
NCTraveler May 2018 #23
Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #25
NCTraveler May 2018 #28
Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #26
kwassa May 2018 #37
ismnotwasm May 2018 #21
NCTraveler May 2018 #2
kcr May 2018 #10
Blue_Adept May 2018 #13
kcr May 2018 #14
salin May 2018 #15
tblue37 May 2018 #19
tblue37 May 2018 #22
kcr May 2018 #24
ismnotwasm May 2018 #20
dawg May 2018 #5
Behind the Aegis May 2018 #8
Behind the Aegis May 2018 #11
milestogo May 2018 #32
MyNameGoesHere May 2018 #12
RandomAccess May 2018 #16
rollin74 May 2018 #18
Sailor65x1 May 2018 #30
ismnotwasm May 2018 #31
misanthrope May 2018 #33
WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #34
ProudLib72 May 2018 #39

Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)

Wed May 2, 2018, 04:06 PM

1. I know exactly how

Any way I damn well choose.

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Response to Bok_Tukalo (Reply #1)

Wed May 2, 2018, 04:07 PM

3. +1

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Response to Bok_Tukalo (Reply #1)

Wed May 2, 2018, 04:11 PM

6. God forbid you're thoughtful? What could be worse than to see someone else's side....

 

Last edited Wed May 2, 2018, 05:00 PM - Edit history (1)

Or worse, learn from others!

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #6)

Wed May 2, 2018, 05:19 PM

17. And you could lean from the poster that we all are not one size fits all

 

See below, supposedly President Obama thinks he is a jackass.


Conformity sucks some times.

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Response to wasupaloopa (Reply #17)

Wed May 2, 2018, 05:36 PM

27. No one is arguing all white people are alike, LOL. Now POC, however.....

 

That shit still goes on. I know many would LOVE to make a false equivalence about white people, though. Some people argue that shit all day long.

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Response to wasupaloopa (Reply #17)

Wed May 2, 2018, 05:47 PM

29. Did you actually think before your wrote this?



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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #29)

Wed May 2, 2018, 08:34 PM

35. You you ever have anything worth while to say or do you just insult people?

 

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Response to wasupaloopa (Reply #35)

Wed May 2, 2018, 08:42 PM

36. Effie has many worthwhile things to say

A pity you don't read them.

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Response to wasupaloopa (Reply #35)

Wed May 2, 2018, 08:58 PM

38. That's pretty funny.

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Response to Bok_Tukalo (Reply #1)

Wed May 2, 2018, 04:11 PM

7. It's both your depth of context and breadth of nuance that first catches the eye.

It's both your depth of context and breadth of nuance that first catches the eye.

While others may lazily meter out simply a shallow bumper-sticker to avoid actual thought, you provide us with a largesse of all the wit and wisdom you posses.

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #7)

Wed May 2, 2018, 04:15 PM

9. I try to make my point in one sentence or less.

<OPE>

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Response to Bok_Tukalo (Reply #9)

Wed May 2, 2018, 05:31 PM

23. How about a flawed sentences and weak point?

 

Brevity is often best combined with clarity and accuracy.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #23)

Wed May 2, 2018, 05:33 PM

25. That ususally takes two sentences

<POE>

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Response to Bok_Tukalo (Reply #25)

Wed May 2, 2018, 05:37 PM

28. Sorry you failed to meet your own standards. Nt

 

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #23)

Wed May 2, 2018, 05:36 PM

26. White privilege comes out eventually, doesnt it

textbook example on this thread

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Response to Bok_Tukalo (Reply #9)

Wed May 2, 2018, 08:43 PM

37. A point with no support.

Useful.

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Response to Bok_Tukalo (Reply #1)

Wed May 2, 2018, 05:28 PM

21. Thus my disclaimer.

You all don’t have to learn or even want to learn

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Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)

Wed May 2, 2018, 04:07 PM

2. Can you link directly to the article?

 

You got me with the headline. I literally had a little chuckle.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #2)

Wed May 2, 2018, 04:15 PM

10. I'm not sure it's possible to link directly to Medium

I've never seen a working link to Medium in the wild.

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Response to kcr (Reply #10)

Wed May 2, 2018, 04:32 PM

13. Best Advice

Go to https://goo.gl/

Enter the full medium link (as you have above)

Result: https://goo.gl/nD8HF5

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Response to Blue_Adept (Reply #13)

Wed May 2, 2018, 04:38 PM

14. Thanks. I'm not the OP, just being silly

Medium's design and business model annoy me a little bit. You'd think they'd want to make it easy to link to.

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Response to Blue_Adept (Reply #13)

Wed May 2, 2018, 04:47 PM

15. thanks.

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Response to kcr (Reply #10)

Wed May 2, 2018, 05:26 PM

19. Remove the extraneous @ sign In the URL for a direct link. nt

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #19)

Wed May 2, 2018, 05:29 PM

22. Example:

Standard Medium link:

https://medium.com/@IjeomaOluo/how-non-black-people-can-talk-about-kanye-while-staying-in-their-lane-cb34b05fc84e

Same link with @ sign removed (direct link to desired article):

https://medium.com/IjeomaOluo/how-non-black-people-can-talk-about-kanye-while-staying-in-their-lane-cb34b05fc84e

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #22)

Wed May 2, 2018, 05:32 PM

24. Thanks

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #2)

Wed May 2, 2018, 05:27 PM

20. Sorry fixed it!

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Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)

Wed May 2, 2018, 04:09 PM

5. I tend to concur with the gentleman in the link below.

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Response to dawg (Reply #5)

Wed May 2, 2018, 04:13 PM

8. +1

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Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)

Wed May 2, 2018, 04:15 PM

11. He's an idiot.

Every group has them. I have run across Jews who blather on about how they would have never been taken to a death camp because they would have fought back, and the Jews were just sheep. These types of comments are ahistorical and just ignorant, just like West's.

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Response to Behind the Aegis (Reply #11)

Wed May 2, 2018, 07:59 PM

32. Well said.

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Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)

Wed May 2, 2018, 04:21 PM

12. I tend not to care one shit

For tRump supporters period. I wouldn't need to talk to any tRump supporter, or as I call them, traitors.

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Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)

Wed May 2, 2018, 05:05 PM

16. EXCELLENT article. Thanks for posting it -- AND encouraging people actually read it.

 

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Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)

Wed May 2, 2018, 05:21 PM

18. he's a JACKASS

nuf said

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Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)

Wed May 2, 2018, 06:33 PM

30. Really, any way we see fit

 

I won't tell another man what he can express or to whom, and won't suffer to be "Laned" by one. Neither should anyone else tolerate such. Kanye has always been an idiot and associated with other idiots. If I recall correctly, President Obama thought so also. And I'm fairly certain HE would not be telling anyone who can talk about it and who can't. That sounds more like the current occupant to me; and that's a growing parallel.

These kinds of articles remind me of a line from a book; "Now will scholarship's imbeciles have their day..."

Only it's been a lot of days. So many days....

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Response to Sailor65x1 (Reply #30)

Wed May 2, 2018, 07:57 PM

31. Jesus

From the article;

First off, why do we need lanes? I hear some of you right now — “Isn’t it all of our duty to call out absolutely everything?” “Oh so I’m white and suddenly my opinion doesn’t count?” “Aren’t lanes divisive?” “Do you hate freedom of speech?” In short, my answers are: “No”, “Yes”, “No”, and “Read the Goddamn First Amendment So You Stop Looking Like An Ass.” But let’s dive slightly deeper.

If you are concerned by what Kanye is saying, I’m going to assume that it is at least in part because you are concerned with the hate, bigotry, and oppression of the Trump administration that Kanye’s supporting, or the massive amount of anti-blackness that Kanye is spouting when he claims that black people were slaves by choice. If either of these are true, then you should also be concerned about the power structure of systems of race and the anti-blackness that permeates our society and enables Trump and infects Kanye. This means, that even when you are discussing how universally shitty Kanye is being, you are also discussing a black man as a non-black person, and the way you do so can contribute to anti-blackness in a way that you may not intend, but will still be very responsible for.

There are people who will love to see you tear down Kanye, not because what he’s saying is absolute trash, but because he’s a black man. There are plenty of people who will love your comments about Kanye, not because they address Kanye’s absolute dedication to selfishness and ignorance, but because they feel the same way about all black people.

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Response to Sailor65x1 (Reply #30)

Wed May 2, 2018, 08:00 PM

33. "Kanye has always been an idiot and associated with other idiots."

One look at his in-laws confirms that.

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Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)

Wed May 2, 2018, 08:04 PM

34. This is so, so important. K&R.

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Response to ismnotwasm (Original post)

Wed May 2, 2018, 08:58 PM

39. Direct from my "idiots" folder

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