Native American men removed from university tour after parent tells cops they made her 'nervous'

[dalton99a]

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/386026-native-american-men-removed-from-university-tour-after-parent

Native American men removed from university tour after parent tells cops they made her 'nervous'
By Max Greenwood - 05/03/18 10:16 AM EDT

Colorado State University is investigating an incident in which two Native American men were pulled away from a campus tour after a parent on the tour called campus police saying she was nervous about their presence.

The men were allowed to rejoin the tour after they were questioned by campus police, The Denver Post reported on Wednesday. But the tour group had moved on by that point and the men eventually left campus.

The university said that police responded appropriately to the parent's report. But school officials also called the incident "sad and frustrating from nearly every angle, particularly the experience of two students who were here to see if this was a good fit for them."

The two men were visiting the campus from their home in New Mexico, the Post reported.

"As a University community, we deeply regret the experience of these students, while they were guests on our campus," university officials said in an email to students, according to the newspaper.

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https://www.denverpost.com/2018/05/03/colorado-state-university-native-americans-mom/

Mom of Native American boys questioned by police during CSU tour says incident breaks her heart
Older son went to Fort Collins to see if campus was a fit after a year at community college in New Mexico
By Monte Whaley | [e-mail] | The Denver Post
PUBLISHED: May 3, 2018 at 5:56 pm | UPDATED: May 3, 2018 at 6:31 pm

The mother of two Native American teenagers pulled from a Colorado State University tour and questioned by campus police because they made a parent on the tour “nervous” said the incident breaks her heart.

“It is one of their first experiences out in the real world and they run into this cruel world,” Lorraine Kahneratokwas Gray said. “That’s why we have to speak out, my sons need to find the courage of speak out.”

Gray told Denver7 that her sons, 19-year-old Thomas and 17-year-old Lloyd, had saved up money and borrowed the family car for the seven-hour trip to Fort Collins from New Mexico to check out the campus

Thomas was especially excited about attending CSU after spending a year at a local community college, Gray said.

“They are teenage boys, heading out on their own, getting to drive seven hours to an unknown place,” Gray said.

They were late getting to campus, but eventually caught up to the tour. They even sent her a photo of their tour after it started.

But campus police were soon called, Gray said.

“Apparently, a parent on the tour called police because they were too quiet, that made them suspicious,” Gray said. “They were trying to listen. Why should it be a crime to listen and not engage in a conversation?”

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[Hoyt]

1. Christ. White wingers never cease to amaze me in their hatred and fears.

[Blue_true]

29. They are suck delicate snowflakes. I often wonder whether their own Do-Do make them scared. nt

[workinclasszero]

89. It makes me puke that ACTUAL AMERICANS

were singled out and oppressed because some white wing snowflake was scared by the color of their skin!

[aggiesal]

107. Every thang's gonna to be all White!!!

Fightin' Whites Logo from University of Northern Colorado Intramural Basketball Team.

[barbtries]

116. is that for real?

same school?!

[aggiesal]

133. It is for real, ...

but not the same school.

The school represented in the story is Colorado State University.

The school with the logo is University of Northern Colorado.
It's not the schools official team name, but rather an intramural team.

UNC has a large amount of Native Americans attending.
They were not happy that major professional and college sports teams
disparage their ethnicity.
So they created the Fighting Whites, to show how offensive it is.
Problem was, that everyone loved it. They started buying up
all the merchandise, and now the university can't get rid of the name.
So they sold merchandise and raised $100K and created an
endowment for a scholarship to the school.

[barbtries]

134. sigh.

i'm tired. smh

[MineralMan]

2. Outrageous!

Disgusting, too.

[hlthe2b]

3. I'm in Fort Collins today and this has a LOT of people upset (as it should)...

This is not a community that has major problems with such blatant bigotry towards Native Americans (nor Latinos or other POC). Seems everywhere I went today I heard people talking about this.

I know school officials have reached out to these two young men.. I hope they will do something to make it right.

[Blue_true]

30. They should fly them in, put them up in a good hotel, have a limo pick them up.

And the college President or other top official should personally walk them through a tour. Even universities in towns that have no big race problems have a lot of racists come through, I know, I met many such people while at college in a very liberal university city.

[raven mad]

56. AMEN!!!

I would LOVE for that bigoted racist IDIOT to try that here. The local cops would have laughed her back into the sewer she slimed out of.

😡😡😡🔥🔥🔥👎👎👎

[The Genealogist]

102. +1000

That would be a great way for the university to make this right.

[backscatter712]

110. CSU's response isn't far off.

From CSU's campus newspaper:

https://collegian.com/2018/05/university-addresses-family-from-campus-tour-incident/

The incident quickly gained national attention, and on Friday the University responded to the family in a series of tweets.

The first of several tweets explained that the University has reached out to the family as well as their high school, but have not heard back yet.

“We ask them to please get in touch with at their convenience,” the first tweet explains.

The University has also offered to refund any expenses they incurred while traveling to CSU.

“We deeply regret the unwelcoming and concerning experience they had while guests on our campus,” said the second tweet.

The third tweet explained that the Office of Admissions, Office of the Vice President for Diversity, Native American Cultural Center and CSU Police Department are reviewing how an incident like this can be avoided or handled differently in the future. This sentiment was also expressed in the mass email sent to all students on Wednesday morning.

In their final tweet, the University offered the family a VIP tour of the campus with all expenses covered.

CSU's offering those two boys a VIP tour, and offering to pay expenses.

[SergeStorms]

113. That's closing the barn door....

after the horse is long gone. If I were a member of that family I'd advise the boys to stay as far away from CSU as possible.

[Kashkakat v.2.0]

124. "responded to the family in a series of tweets"- reallly??????????????? call me old fashioned but

this has got to be about the rudest way to make amends to someone - publicly on twitter?

Good grief.

[backscatter712]

90. Yeah, I'm a CSU graduate, and this is embarrassing.

In my experience, CSU and FoCo are usually pretty welcoming to minorities. Looks like some racist helicopter mom freaked out.

[Blue_true]

117. Pardon.

Hate to change the subject. Are you a Physicist? Or work with high energy plasma, or materials analysis (SIMS, Auger, ect). Backscatter to me has some specific meanings, people tend to take usernames that reflect something about them. Thanks in advance.

[backscatter712]

121. I used to work for a company that made RFID devices.

They work through backscatter of radio waves.

[Blue_true]

122. Ok. Thanks. nt

[unblock]

4. They needed to detain and question the parent who complained

[brush]

11. Exactly. These phone-into-the-cops racists are getting people killed

Tamir Rice and John Crawford to name two.

They also got the Starbucks young men arrested just a couple of weeks ago, now this.

These phone callers need to suffer consequences if their closet, phone racism results in harm to people.

[unblock]

12. Police and university security need to keep track to see if

anyone is repeatedly making false (bigoted) police calls.

They also need to legitimately understand what makes people "nervous". Opportunities for education.

And of course, it's possible what made them nervous was an actual security risk. Either way they need to question the person who calls them in

[brush]

14. Charge them for the expense of the police detail if their calls...

turn out to be unfounded, even charges if their calls result in injury or death to innocent people.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

64. YES !!

Since when did it become acceptable to call police because someone gets nervous ?

I am getting sick of people calling the cops - or worse - calling 911 for non-emergency situations.
Then these people need to be charged for engaging the police or the dispatchers in BS complaints. Cops have enough to do with real crime and 911 operators in real emergencies. They are not guidance counselors or phone-in psychologists.

Grow up, people. Knock it off with the stupid calls to LEOs and 911. They have REAL issues to deal with and your anxiety isn't one of them. Take a xanax.

[DiverDave]

71. Charge them?

If they were white, and I suspect they were, they would NEVER be charged.
Probably got an "atagirl" for being vigilant.
And you know there are many who will praise them.
DESPICABLE.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

19. "phone callers need to suffer consequences" +1. Call screeners/dispatchers need basic training.

Being quiet is not sufficient cause to roll out police.

Standing in public service place is not sufficient cause to roll out police.

[uponit7771]

45. +1

[RainCaster]

54. That parents kid should not be allowed in to any CO university

[unblock]

57. Hopefully the kid is equally embarrassed and horrified at his parents

[GulfCoast66]

59. Whoo Nellie!

Why should the child be punished? He or she did nothing wrong.

The parent should be charged with all expense of the call.

[treestar]

84. By that logic, DACA should not be

If you are into penalizing people because of what their parents did; I guess you are against that too?

[catbyte]

82. Then publicly named and shamed. It's seems to be the only way to get through to them.

[tonedevil]

5. The police responded appropriately?

Appropriate would have been to bounce the asshole parent who caused the disruption.

[janx]

8. YES. n/t

[Bernardo de La Paz]

18. +1. . . . nt

[helmedon1974]

27. No, they have respond to a perceived threat and assess it

They should have the woman's name and contact info as well. She should be made to apologise and recoup the parts of the tour they missed, and the embarrassment of being singled out for no reason. Plus the money they spent to get there.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

65. What threat ?

These boys were not engaging in any demonstrable threatening behavior. Being quiet was making this woman nervous ? I hope she's never around The Deaf.

Common sense, people, common sense.

[tonedevil]

80. Thank you...

I couldn't respond civilly.

[backscatter712]

92. My impression was that racist helicopter-mom called the cops freaking out.

The cops only heard what they were told over the phone, probably were told the students in question were "scaring her" or something.

There were told there was some sort of threat, they were obligated to respond, did, found the students did nothing wrong, deescalated the situation, and sent the students on their way.

It's still a disturbing incident, and the students and their family are very right to be upset.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

128. My take on this

When the woman said she was "nervous" because they were quiet (respectful), the cops should have said, "Ma'am that sounds like a personal problem. Please try not to bother the quiet young men."

[backscatter712]

129. UPDATE: Body-cam footage of the incident, and audio of the lady calling in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=10&v=dkugShd-vdY

https://soundcloud.com/csucollegian/campus-tour-incident-911-call-audio

https://collegian.com/2018/05/csu-police-department/

My impressions:

I didn't see the cops doing much wrong. The cops just did a quick stop-and-chat with the two guys, kept things cool. The boys got frisked for weapons, which I understand for the cops' safety, but it's always nerve-wracking when that's done. Still, everyone stayed calm. It only took five minutes, and the cops sent them on their way. A little bit of lecturing about how the boys should have explained why they were late and given their names. As discussed earlier in this thread, these are indigenous American guys, raised to listen rather than babble. But that's the worst that the cops did.

My characterization of the caller: Yep, she's clueless. Lots of unconscious racism. They were brown, "looked Hispanic" were wearing black. SUSPICIOUS!!!!!1!111

I hope that lady's completely embarrassed right now. She should be.

[suffragette]

131. "Looked Hispanic", "from Mexico" "didn't belong" No question about her racism. Guess she did not

hear the “New” in front of Mexico, though it should not matter either way. Maybe she should work on her listening skills.

Also disproves that they didn’t talk since they clearly answered some question about where they came from.

The YouTube video shows how vulnerable they looked while being questioned by the police.

“They didn’t know who you were because you didn’t show up with parents.” ?!? WTF?

[raven mad]

58. + infinity.

[LiberalLovinLug]

94. Yes, the police were the ultimate authority. WTF were they doing?

They should have evaluated the situation in about 5 minutes, asked the two boys a few questions and then it should have been clear that these boys were NOT terrorists but just quiet young men, probably out of their element so thats why they were not engaged as much. And then they should have turned to the woman, and to the tour guide, and said "I think everything is fine, carry on".

Even then it would have been disgusting that these boys had to go through all that, but it sounds like they were questioned for even longer, and basically missed most of the tour because of police grilling.

[backscatter712]

130. Saw the body cam footage.

The cops did indeed do what you described. Stopped them for 5 minutes, asked a few questions, determined they weren't doing anything wrong, and let them go.

I also heard the call recording from that lady. Gawd that was infuriating. So much unconscious racism.

[LiberalLovinLug]

132. Thanks. Yes I just watched that

After watching, I don't think the police could have done anything else. Just doing their jobs and let them go fairly quickly.

I just wish they could have re-joined the tour, or they had waited. If anything, just to have this woman forced to realize she made a mistake, maybe feel a little uncomfortable.

[dhill926]

6. fuck this shit....

[geardaddy]

100. +1 million

[janx]

7. That parent had better not visit my

campus in New Mexico. It would be so frightening!

[a la izquierda]

22. Or mine in WV.

While the overwhelming majority of the students are white, we have a massive presence of students from the Middle East.
I'm sure that would be terrifying

[janx]

32. Yes, we have international students too, but

the funny thing is that at our campus in NM, the campus police officer who would have shown up to talk to this parent might well have been Native American too--the very sort of person the parent was paranoid about!

At the very least, chances are the campus police officer would have been a variation of the theme, if you get my drift...someone the parent might have called Mexican.

[Blue_true]

36. Are you sure you have enough shovels to clean up the shitpile that snowflake would leave?

Afterall, "Moslems" really scare the hell out of them, even if the Muslim kids are doing nothing but reading textbooks between classes.

[raven mad]

61. Or mine in Fairbanks, Alaska.

For that matter, ANY of the University of Alaska's campuses, many of which are in village/rural areas.

[janx]

63. +1000

My son graduated from UAF and has lived at various places throughout the state. He started with many native Alaskans at a community college on the Sound.

[Corgigal]

9. Parent

leave those kids alone. Get a hobby, non-racist, if able.

[TrogL]

98. She's just another brick in the wall

[malaise]

10. No words

[SunSeeker]

13. K & R for exposure of deplorables. nt

[janx]

15. This is telling:

“Apparently, a parent on the tour called police because they were too quiet, that made them suspicious,” Gray said. “They were trying to listen. Why should it be a crime to listen and not engage in a conversation?”

It's a cultural trait of Native Americans that I find endearing--listening before saying anything, and saying very little at first. I have taught a lot of these young college students and am very aware of it. That someone would find it suspicious or threatening is an indication of profound ignorance and racism. Even if you didn't know about this particular aspect of Native American culture, you'd respect it as someone being polite. But in our cacophonous, crass society it was seen by this parent as abnormal. How far has our current culture fallen?

[Bradshaw3]

76. Exactly my thoughts

As someone who grew up around Native Americans with a long time love of their culture, it is disheartening to me how many white Americans remain ignorant of that culture and those traits you talked about. We have a loudmouth bully in the WH and so many white Americans who truly represent the ugly American right now. If only they could act more like the original Americans I have known.

[janx]

79. My own parents taught me to listen more than talk.

It's similar.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

16. Fucking nervous white snowflakes need to remember their families are immigrants. . . . nt

[edbermac]

17. Did she think they were going to scalp her?

Jeeez!

[Blue_true]

37. With racists, what sane person know what the hell they are thinking.

To give a short answer, I would not put that past the asshole that made the call.

Heck, how stupid can a person be? Where did that woman come from, some small place that has never seen a POC?

[treestar]

85. wonder if she thought they were Middle Eastern?

[onecaliberal]

20. For fucks sake...

[Chipper Chat]

21. one word:

Trump

[Blue_true]

41. Yep. All you need. The fact that he is President says there are a lot of fucked up Americans. nt

[Duppers]

52. Keeps happening more and

more frequently.

[GulfCoast66]

62. Nope. Child of the south here. Nothing has changed.

You are just hearing about it.

Cell phones and Mellenials are changing things.

[Ferrets are Cool]

23. In my opinion, the worst part of this is that it is

only going to get worse. Nothing is being done to discourage it.

[AllaN01Bear]

24. wonder what would happen if that were pullled on white people

im getting sick of this felgercarbe.

[Cha]

25. What!?! They never should have been removed.

The "parent" should have been explained to that.. it's her problem.

[Varaddem]

26. Should be unbelievable

Her and her kid should’ve been pulled out of line and questioned afterwards. Send them to someplace like yale if they can afford a building.

[DFW]

28. No one is more American than Native Americans

The parent who called the cops should be deported to the country her ancestors came from, and her American nationality permanently revoked.

I don't care how outrageous or impractical that sounds. I'm serious. A line has to be drawn somewhere.

[Blue Owl]

34. Precisely

Shout out to DFW for speaking some real truth

[janx]

39. At least the situation is getting some publicity.

We can be grateful for that, although it's really hard to understand the paranoia of the freaked-out parent.

[DFW]

48. Probably saw too many westerns when she was little

I don't care. I still say a line has to be drawn somewhere.

[janx]

50. It does.

I could not agree more.

[mythology]

40. That country probably doesn't want the idiot either

[DFW]

49. I wouldn't blame them if they didn't

So let them set up a reservation out on some infertile land in some inhospitable part of their country, and give her a hut with no running water and electricity that runs for ten hours out of the day.

For Pete's sake, we have ICE Gestapo searching out and deporting perfectly productive and useful members of our society. If we can identify people who contribute nothing but destructive situations like this one, THAT is who we need to be weeding out.

[geardaddy]

101. Spot on.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

31. Do better, white people.

[Me.]

33. She Called The POlice?

[janx]

53. Yes. She called the campus police, apparently. n/t

[Guilded Lilly]

35. Perhaps the parent and their child should have been escorted away to "safety"...

So their precious bigotry could be questioned.

[Varaddem]

38. Ignorance

You think maybe we will get a name?Could make for a fun college search for her kids

[Blue_true]

44. Remember the woman last week.

Who didn't want to give her name after saying the Lynch Museum would cause discord, because she was afraid that if her daughter read that she said that, the daughter would have went off on her?

It is possible that the parent dropped back during the tour to make the call and the child knew nothing about it and may have opposed it if he or she did. If the kid is a clueless fool like the parent, college life will expose that bigtime - but until then, the kid should be kept out of it.

[janx]

47. Agreed. n/t

[Beartracks]

42. "See something, say something" run amok.

[SCVDem]

43. I grew up with this culture

That's why we had Billy Jack movies.

Payback in 1971.

The times, they were a changin'!

[TheBlackAdder]

46. Colorado State University, do you get your rent-a-cops from Wal*Mart or the local shopping mall?

.

If they pulled the men off the tour, they should have pulled the women off of it too!

Either the men were a threat, or the lady was a threat for being a lunatic!

===

If she was so concerned for safety, she shold have gladly stepped out of line to resolve the issue.

.

[world wide wally]

51. Embarrassing for our entire state!

But, let me show you the other side of that coin.
We attended our daughter's graduation from Fort Lewis College in Durango, Colorado this past weekend. Native Americans are allowed to attend FLC for free or a very reduced tuition.
Roughly, half of those graduating (at least a third) were Native Americans. It was a great experience for our daughter and for us. Gov. Hickenlooper was the keynote speaker.
I would highly recommend these boys, and anyone else, look into FLC. A great school and a great education.

[DFW]

60. This is indeed the other side of the coin

My younger daughter attended two years of high school in the USA, and she was in a state (not Colorado) very aware of its native population and culture. When we attended her graduation there, half the ceremony was conducted in the language spoken there for centuries before the first Europeans showed up. That language was even one of the three options given to students there (along with Spanish and French). My daughter, though born and raised in Europe, ate it up.

During her first summer vacation, although she had opted for French as her "foreign" language, a song in that language happened to come on the radio, and she started translating it for us. I said, "I thought you hadn't learned that language?" She came back with, "well, yeah, but ANYone knows THAT much."

[janx]

66. We remember songs, even if we're not toddlers.

Songs in foreign languages stay with us, as does the early song of the ABCs. Love it.

[DFW]

67. She didn't even know the song. She was just translating the lyrics for us

And in a language most Europeans have never even heard spoken.

[jalan48]

55. Oh that poor lil snow flake. Too many John Wayne movies for her.

[nadine_mn]

68. So heartbreaking that the mom was relieved her boys weren't hurt

It has come down to instead of being outraged that civil rights and basic human decency is trampled on, PoC are just relieved not be dead.

And it's not an irrational fear on the part of the mother either.

We have made minorities feel like it is against the law for them to exist.

[PatrickforO]

69. Racism makes me want to puke.

CSU is a good school. The 'concerned' racist parent is shit.

[janx]

70. CSU

is a great school.

It's one of the best vet schools in the country. I lived in CO for 11 years and remember that well, but if this kind of thing is allowed to continue, CSU will suffer.

[appalachiablue]

72. Where's nervous Nellie from? Native Americans have been HERE for centuries!

And it's Colorado! The "Fox Effect" at work maybe?

[DFW]

73. The offense of "walking while being black" has been expanded upon

Now they call the cops on you for "being American while in America."

[Cha]

78. Being Native American while listening

to a college tour guide.

[catrose]

119. If she'd only read Tony Hillerman's mysteries

(also a white person, though honored with Friend of the Navajo title), she'd know that it's part of Navajo culture to listen quietly and respectfully to someone until they've finished speaking, instead of the interrupt-and-shout-over culture she's more familiar with.

I'm really worried if listening to someone is a suspicious act. I'm really worried anyway.

[Cha]

120. It's surreal that would be the excuse

to make her "nervous". I would not have asked the Native Americans to be removed. A red flag would have gone up and I would look at the woman askance.

[More_Cowbell]

74. The amount of privilege it took that woman to make that call is breathtaking

Here she was, with her own kid, complaining about two other kids -- none of them on their own property. All of them guests of the university. And yet she felt that she had the right to call the police because she felt "uncomfortable." It's just insane.

[3catwoman3]

75. She would be the kind of helicopter parent who would be...

...on the phone at least weekly to the college president, the dorm RA, and the professors, complaining about one thing and another.

What an idiot.

[Rhiannon12866]

77. Reminds me of this recent Daily Show segment:

[catbyte]

81. Fuck you & your "discomfort", White woman. They can be just as vile as they want now.

[IMG][/IMG]

[suffragette]

83. Listening is invaluable in being a successful college student. It should be nurtured, not punished.

Imagine, making that journey together and being so excited and eager to become part of the community of this university, then to to have that feeling crushed by that ignorant person.

[renate]

118. I went from being super angry to super sad after reading your insightful comment

Now I'm both.

It's so upsetting to think of their enthusiasm and independence being kicked in the teeth like that by that moronic paranoid racist.

[suffragette]

126. Yes, I felt both while reading the OP, then writing this post.

Still do.

[Cryptoad]

86. Damn Injuns,,,,,,,,,,,

Why dont they go back to where ever they came from,,,,,,,,,,!

geeez..... and people are shocked that 42% of Americans are Trumpsters..?

[we can do it]

87. They should be given free tuition and room for 4 years.

[BobTheSubgenius]

88. WHAT???? This is just appalling!

I get that the "woman" is far more culpable than the university, but it comes out of this with a black eye and some potential cost.

I know that if I was either of those two young men, I'd have serious qualms about attending there, even if there is no objective reason to do so.

[IronLionZion]

91. I always feel nervous when I see young white males around schools

movie theaters, churches, restaurants, grocery stores, country music concerts, anywhere with lots of people.

[LisaM]

93. Maybe they need to ban parents from campus tours.

If those two young men could come by themselves from another state to participate in this tour, it's clear that you can do it without a parent.

[niyad]

95. the woman had the option of leaving the bus herself, yes?

[MicaelS]

96. This woman's identity needs to be exposed...

So she can be publicly shamed. I am quite serious.

[MarcA]

109. +1,000 n/t

[Blue_Tires]

97. Whiteness at work...

1. As others continue to point out, white folks need to realize that every time they call the cops to report a "scary/suspicious" person of color, they are ACTIVELY PUTTING THAT PERSON'S LIFE IN PERIL because cops will arrive with the preconceived notion that shit's already gonna go down so the second they get out the car the safety's off with a round in the chamber.

2. People who falsely call the cops over "scary/suspicious" minorities need to be named and shamed as a deterrent because this is happening far too often...

[zentrum]

99. Listening while Native American.

[geardaddy]

103. What a racist fuckwit

maazhichige

[Bayard]

104. Visiting the campus to see if it was a good fit for them

Guess they got their answer.

"Too quiet", couldn't possibly be interpreted as respectful, since their skin was a bit too tan.

[whathehell]

105. Oh for fuck's sake...May the NA group sues the school

and win...Obviously, the parent is weird, but CSU should never have given into that.

[colorado_ufo]

106. Disgusting.

[turbinetree]

108. A parent on the tour was paranoid, because they (young men) were quiet...............go away

I use to live in Colorado, and I have family there, and I really like Colorado, but racism is what this all about, a racist called the cops, and the cops detained the two Indigenous of human beings, the first, of what is now called America, by white Europeans, for was the justification this, this is just outrageous, did the cops question the paranoid parent.

I just wonder what this individual parent would do if there kid went to a college and had the cops call on there kid for being to
quite and was nervous, during tour...................what an idiot, no common sense....................so ignorant

I want to know if the two young men filed charges against the parent that made this racists call

[bucolic_frolic]

111. Trump is making me nervous

[SergeStorms]

112. Only in White, Anglo-Saxon America....

could "being quiet" arouse suspicion.

I imagine the woman who was "nervous" thought they were of the dusky 'Muslim' persuasion. Americans should be able to recognize the very people who their ancestors killed by the tens-of-thousands, and whose land they stole without any compensation. It's the very least we could do as a "civilized" people.

[avebury]

114. Why on earth did nobody in the group speak up?

I know that I would have talked to the boys and if they told me that they were there to see the school to see if they wanted to apply I would have spoken up for them. I for sure would have activated the audio recorder on my phone to catch as much as I could. I hate this kind of shit. Those boys are lucky that the woman didn't pull out a gun, shoot them and then cry "I was afraid for my life!!!"

[barbtries]

115. well i guess they'll be

scratching that school off their list. as will many others if the racism is that rife there.

just once instead of hearing from the victims i would love to see some quotes from the perps saying they were forced to confront their racism and were contrite and had learned from the experience. but that never happens...i don't know if that goes on in private but fear it's more likely that they rationalize and still whistle on by saying "I'm not a racist but...." blah blah blah

[Kashkakat v.2.0]

123. THIS MAKES EVEN LESS SENSE than the Starbucks incident - why on earth would cops respond at all to

such a lame report?

No pretense at all of a crime (possibly) occurring - just doesn't like the looks of them. They should have told her to take a hike.

I know Ive called cops before about certain things (eg neighbor who was leaving smoldering fires in a grill literally 8 ft from my windows) and they had no hesitation about telling me there was nothing they could do.

At least the Starbucks lady, although undeniably acting out of overt racism, had a plausible cover story as to why she wanted the 2 men removed (supposedly trespassing or loitering).

[Arazi]

125. The child of that parent just got a denial letter

His/her intolerant parent would be a never ending headache for the university at every event from football games to parent's weekend, calling campus police, alarmed at brown people.

No administrator would voluntarily admit that kid now. Permanent shit show.

Wonder if the kid tried to stop mom from calling. College is all about exposure to new things/ideas. Double fuck them if the kid endorsed mom's racist call.

[JI7]

127. i wonder who the parent voted for