NRA: Why did you have a picture of this prominent BLM activist on the big screen at your convention?

[bigtree]

deray @deray 2h2 hours ago

@NRA, why did you have a picture of me on the screen at your convention yesterday?




Keith Boykin @keithboykin 1h1 hour ago
Why would the NRA display a photo of a young black activist with a blue vest to thousands of angry white gun owners and Trump supporters?

[Ferrets are Cool]

1. That is some dangerous shit. nt

[PubliusEnigma]

2. Looks like a lot of empty seats

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

3. Just what I was thinking.

Good sign.

[dembotoz]

21. at any convention i have been to i spend as much time in the halls as main room

if you have been to a number of conventions by the same organization some folks do the same speech over and over again.

i can pretty much give you a senators speech word for word, heard it soooooo often

for new folks,,,,sit and drink it all in...hang on every word....
others not so much

do not put that much stock in empty chairs

[bigtree]

25. nearly-packed arena, which holds about 9,200

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-nra-trump-20180504-story.html

[oberliner]

4. He's appeared in some NRA videos

DeRay Mckesson is a public figure who has been interviewed on television so I think they are within their rights to incorporate his public appearances into their propaganda videos.

[Docreed2003]

28. Within their rights???

Perhaps, but considering many in that cult consider Deray "public enemy #1 " that shit is appalling!

[oberliner]

29. Yes

First Amendment Rights must be protected, especially for those with whom we most vehemently disagree and find the most appalling.

[Docreed2003]

31. And you ignored my post completely

I said it is perhaps within their rights. So you're cool with them using Deray's picture in this fashion? They're putting a proverbial crosshair on his head! That's ok in your book because "1st amendment"?

[oberliner]

34. I wanted to make a separate point about the importance of protecting the First Amendment

With respect to your question, can you elaborate on how his picture was used? I can't find what the context was.

[jberryhill]

53. That wasn't the question

The question was not about whether they had the right to use it.

The question was about their purpose for using it.

[oberliner]

54. I know - I was making a separate point that I thought was important

With respect to their purpose for using it, I would need to see the full context to make that determination.

[procon]

5. They also put his photo next to the big screen ad for Ruger.

The only thing they left out was a target superimposed over his face.

It so obvious that it's almost comical when they try to deny that they're racists to the bone.

[Kirk Lover]

6. I think the NRA will go after anyone no matter black or white or anything else. If you are a

threat then you are in their "sights".

[bigtree]

7. don't paper over this by equalizing their behavior

...there's no 'black' supremacist group targeting whites with several supporters committing mass killings of white children and adults over decades.

The NRA is an arm and outlet of white supremacists - armed, violent, and threatening white supremacists - openly targeting this black activist for their rabid, racist, dangerous supporters.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

8. Well said, bigtree. Well said.

[Kirk Lover]

11. I hear ya but they attacked the Parkland students too. nt

[bigtree]

12. question, what does BLM and Deray have to do with guns?

...obvious why they attacked the Parkland students. They are advocating gun restrictions and gun safety legislation which the NRA say they oppose.

What does BLM and Deray have to do with gun restrictions and gun safety legislation. Why is Deray and BLM on the NRA agenda?

I already stated the answer in the post above.

[Kirk Lover]

13. He has called out the NRA for promoting violence....which they do. But I'm not arguing

with you about them being racist etc... I'm just pointing out the observation that they will go after white people too if need be. Sure they have a special hate for black folks and it helps motivate their disgusting membership.

[bigtree]

14. first, he spoke up AFTER they targeted protest groups like BLM in their advertising last summer

...condemning protests against Trump. It was basically a call to violence against protesters.

Link to tweet

Secondly, you're minimizing the NRA's unprovoked attacks against McKesson, like this one reported in the USAToday last summer:

The National Rifle Association targeted The Washington Post in an NRA TV video posted to social media Monday, suggesting the paper should change its slogan from "Democracy dies in darkness" to "Journalism dies at The Washington Post."

"For years, The Washington Post has tarnished gun owners in an effort to take away our Second Amendment freedoms," says the video, which is narrated by conservative radio personality Grant Stinchfield.

Stinchfield also accuses the Post of "refusing to cover the extremist beliefs and tactics" of activists like DeRay McKesson and Carmen Perez...

As you can see, this isn't about Deray opposing the NRA, or opposing guns, or anything like that. It's a blatant attack on Deray for being a black activist.

If you take a minute to wade through the NRA blogs, it will be clear to you that their opposition has nothing to do with his criticisms of them, and everything to do with placating their racist following who are motivated in their defense of their arsenals by their belief that non-whites threaten their dominant roles in our society.

Take off the blinders, listen and learn, and do more than just paper over the overt racism and bigotry which drives the NRA's membership and activities with these equalizing, head-in-the-sand equivocations of yours.

[Kirk Lover]

15. I'm done with you. Bye bye now.

[bigtree]

16. I'm not surprised

...when it comes to issues of race, many folks are more content to tell people what's what than to actually listen to these community's concerns.

[Kirk Lover]

18. Well why don't you respond for me since you seem to know me and what I fucking think oh

so well. So fuck up on outta here with that bullshit. THE END.

[Eliot Rosewater]

24. It is deeply ingrained in many. Thought by now it would be resolved, isnt.

[Anon-C]

27. Point I will make here is that the next George Zimmerman will be a woman. Remember that, and that

the NRA worked hard to make that happen when it does.

[Hoyt]

9. With speakers like trump and Board Members like Ted Nugent, no need to ask why?

The NRA is a white wing racist organization, reflecting the membership and general makeup of gun-lovers in the population.

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[RockRaven]

10. The NRA is just Klan 4.0

Fewer sheets, more dog-whistles (not all *that* much subtlety though).

Their message:
*some people* are a threat to you, be afraid, get weapons, use weapons, kill them

[RockRaven]

19. Reality isn't as simple as a 3 sentence internet post?

Say it ain't so!

The NRA's core message is: be afraid of "criminals," buy guns, kill people you're afraid of.

Any discussion of the historical roots of gun ownership rights, modern (post WWII) gun control legislation, modern open carry rights, technical aspects of this or that gun, etc., etc. is -- when employed by the NRA -- post-hoc rationalization of the NRA's core function: stoke fear; sell guns; shrug at the consequences. People might follow the NRA's line of reasoning on their own and arrive at the same place in a non-post-hoc manner, but that's just gravy to the NRA.

The NRA purposely stokes raced-based fears because that is what is most effective in selling guns and keeping selling guns legal.

[NCTraveler]

22. It's actually "these people are scary".

You also omitted numerous forms of racism in order to make your flawed argument stand. You literally said certain expressions of racism wouldn’t be accepted by you as an argument.

[Hoyt]

35. Come on Straw Man, we know your are a gun-fancier, but Jeeeez. Here's an NRA Board Member

and there are bunch more like him.





Do you remember how the NRA attacked Obama? Look at the damn speakers at the convention? It is a white wing racist organization, and the vast majority of gunners in this country support their agenda.

[Hoyt]

42. LMAO. The NRA is just like trump when it comes to paying people to support their agenda.

I'll match you one for one.

Another racist board member --

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Oh, and a racist past Prez --



2013 NRA Prez -- Big Jim Porter.


Oh, here's another --



https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/former-u-s-ambassador-to-the-united-nations-john-bolton-news-photo/167978587




Your turn. I have plenty more.

[Hoyt]

47. I've shown the gun organization you support is a white wing racist group. n/t

[TeamPooka]

37. hahahahahahahahahaha! you are adorable.

[Downtown Hound]

44. Oh you really think the NRA would be so overt as to put racist ideology in their literature?

No. Their racism is more implied, and thus, they are able to get away with it. Let me give you an NRA translation guide.

When the NRA says _____, what they're really saying is________.

Criminal: Person of color, usually black but could be Latino or Middle Eastern.

Tyrannical Government: Any government run by liberals.

Deep State: The part of the government that enforces the law of the land on their corrupt leaders.

Freedom: Privilege.

Rights: My right to own an AR-15 is supreme above all else, even your right to live.

Terrorist: Any Muslim who commits violence. White people can't be terrorists because they're not terrorists, just
mentally ill, no matter how many people they gun down. Or they're fighting the good fight against
tyrannical government (see previous aforementioned definition).

[Downtown Hound]

50. Let's hope so

If ever there was an organization to be feared and deserved to he demonized, it's the NRA.

[Cha]

23. Freaking insane bloodthirsty assholes.

[Stinky The Clown]

26. Its a Klan rally

No shit.

[Initech]

30. The NRA is a terrorist organization.

[Iliyah]

32. Target

[TeamPooka]

36. I see this shit and think fondly about the strong link between gun ownership and suicide.

[Downtown Hound]

45. Good thing the NRA never jokes about using violence on political enemies.

Do I need a sarcasm tag?

[Downtown Hound]

52. I don't even know what you're talking about

So no, I'd have to say that I don't feel like I'm being played by something that as of present I don't know exists.

As for feeling morally superior, um yeah, you know what? I actually do feel like I'm morally superior to gun humpers. Yep, That's right. I'm not going to hide or shy away from the fact that I recognize the harm that guns do to tens of thousands every year and favor them being more tightly regulated and restricted than they currently are because I'm not a selfish coward who lives in fear and is willing to allow thousands of innocent victims, many of them children, to die or be maimed just to support my paranoia and my fetish. Yes I feel like I'm morally superior to those that are willing to sacrifice those lives. So deal with it.

[IluvPitties]

41. Stormfront meeting.

[applegrove]

51. Full on cult.