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The Blue Flower

(5,432 posts)
Sat May 5, 2018, 06:32 PM May 2018

Anyone have info on Seattle+Amazon+homeless tax issue?

I heard from someone who lives there that a per-hour tax on Amazon employees has been proposed by the City Council to help provide services for the homeless. In response, Amazon is threatening to stop all construction on new offices and leave town. People are up in arms on both sides.

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Anyone have info on Seattle+Amazon+homeless tax issue? (Original Post) The Blue Flower May 2018 OP
Do they want to annex BC?? CK_John May 2018 #1
I dont have any info, I do know rump and other fascists are trying to harm Amazon, so anything Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #2
Here's one of several lately. appalachiablue May 2018 #3
do a search for an an online media outlet called The Stranger AmandaRuth May 2018 #4
Here you go displacedtexan May 2018 #5
We Pay Taxes So Amazon Doesn't Have To - CEO Worth 110 Billion And Gives Almost Nothing To Charity PaulX2 May 2018 #6
It's called the Progressive Tax on Business., not just for Amazon. uppityperson May 2018 #7
There have been long standing issues in the state with Social Services. The empressof all May 2018 #8

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
2. I dont have any info, I do know rump and other fascists are trying to harm Amazon, so anything
Sat May 5, 2018, 06:37 PM
May 2018

involving Amazon requires multiple looks.

AmandaRuth

(3,105 posts)
4. do a search for an an online media outlet called The Stranger
Sat May 5, 2018, 06:42 PM
May 2018

they have written extensively about Amazon. The general feeling (I'm am neutral on this, as I don't know enough to form an opinion), is that Amazon is so entrenched in Seattle, that the threats amount to a bunch of hot air.

 

PaulX2

(2,032 posts)
6. We Pay Taxes So Amazon Doesn't Have To - CEO Worth 110 Billion And Gives Almost Nothing To Charity
Sat May 5, 2018, 07:00 PM
May 2018

Break them up.

I live in Seattle and what Amazon and others have done isn't good.

Real Estate values have gone up which is good for some, but not others. Affordable housing is a thing of the past.

You need to make $25 an hour to rent an apartment here pretty much I would suspect.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
7. It's called the Progressive Tax on Business., not just for Amazon.
Sat May 5, 2018, 07:28 PM
May 2018

Here's the seattle city council's announcement, clipped. There is more at the link. It's not just for Amazon and other companies are upset too.

https://www.seattle.gov/council/issues/progressive-tax-on-business

.....

The Progressive Tax on Business will:

Exempt Seattle’s small and medium-sized businesses, only applying to those with at least $20 million or more annually in taxable gross receipts as measured under the City’s existing Business & Occupation tax;
Applies only to the City’s approximately 500 largest businesses (or approximately 3% of Seattle’s business owners);
Large businesses included will pay just about a quarter ($0.26) per hour per employee working in Seattle;
All nonprofit businesses in Seattle are exempt;
The employee hours tax will be replaced by a business payroll tax on January 1, 2021;
For those same approximately 500 largest businesses, the replacement business payroll tax will be calculated as 0.7 percent of all payroll related to work done in Seattle..... (more)



Forbes editorial wIth some info
https://www.forbes.com/sites/rogervaldez/2018/04/30/seattles-proposed-tax-on-jobs-does-next-to-nothing-for-housing/#36fcc4d5640a

The Stranger editorial
https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2018/03/26/25956942/guest-editorial-tax-amazon-fund-affordable-housing

The empressof all

(29,098 posts)
8. There have been long standing issues in the state with Social Services.
Sat May 5, 2018, 09:01 PM
May 2018

Lots of money has poured into ever increasing need and constantly changing directions of service delivery. In addition there are significant problems in finding a stable and trained work force to provide services in a system that has high stress and low wages. The cities attempt to tax business IMO is not necessarily a bad idea but there is little faith that they will be able to provide delivery of services within the State and County bureaucracies. Amazon is not going to leave town. There is lots of anger and frustration because there is a lack of understanding on all sides that change takes time, money and commitment to a plan of action that will not be constantly tweaked and will pay providers enough to staff with trained workers at a living wage. Working with the downtown homeless here is extremely challenging as these individuals often have mental health, substance abuse, criminal and health issues. Every life is complicated and there is no one size fits all solution. There are many programs that provide good services and that provide shelter and services in a respectful and humane fashion but few neighborhoods are willing to accept wet housing for those folks who are not going to stop drugs and alcohol or housing for mentally ill individuals who may exhibit inappropriate community behavior. It is just not easy and business leaders have valid concerns that their money is not going to solve the problems. It will take a massive community commitment and buy in and it will take more time than people are willing to give.

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