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RandySF

(58,455 posts)
Sun May 6, 2018, 06:07 PM May 2018

California GOP Worries About Getting Shut Out

“For anyone wondering about the state of the Republican Party in California these days, consider this: There may be no Republican candidate for governor or United States senator on the state’s ballot this November,” the New York Times reports.

“That dispiriting possibility is beginning to sink in for California Republicans, against the backdrop of a divisive debate among its candidates and leaders on how the embattled party can become competitive again in a state where Ronald Reagan was elected twice as governor and that Richard M. Nixon called home.”

“If Republicans fall short in capturing one of those two November slots next month, which members of both parties say is a strong possibility, it would apparently be the first election where there was no major party candidate for both the Senate and governor races since 1914.”


https://politicalwire.com/2018/05/06/california-gop-worries-about-getting-shut-out/

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California GOP Worries About Getting Shut Out (Original Post) RandySF May 2018 OP
Bu Bye Me. May 2018 #1
Hopefully we lose all California GOP congressional reps too beachbum bob May 2018 #2
Dana, Ed, and Devin all need to go. Initech May 2018 #3
That's the thing, this should happen too unless someone can crack heads OnDoutside May 2018 #4
Several months ago I read that if all the GOP congressmen flipped than BigmanPigman May 2018 #6
not enough in California alone..... beachbum bob May 2018 #33
It seemed like too many are needed. BigmanPigman May 2018 #34
we only need to flip 25 or so nationwide and flipping 50 or more is in play beachbum bob May 2018 #37
Currently they are shut out of power wryter2000 May 2018 #5
I'm certain that Newsom will get the top spot RandySF May 2018 #7
I really want them to be 1 and 2 wryter2000 May 2018 #8
I think so RandySF May 2018 #9
Vote Newsom. I lived in LA while Villaraigosa was mayor. He cheated on his wife with a reporter. TeamPooka May 2018 #11
Newsom and Villaraigosa are identical in those concerns Bucky May 2018 #13
Villaraigosa was against legal weed until he started running for Gov. He allowed pot shops in LA TeamPooka May 2018 #14
Okay, that was better Bucky May 2018 #15
I had not heard that about Gavin and am dissapointed but still believe he has made better policy TeamPooka May 2018 #16
Shut them Out! That's why I love it here in CA. TeamPooka May 2018 #10
I'm happy for you! All you Californians! Cha May 2018 #25
That's the very thing it's designed to do. Produce a moderate candidate. Bucky May 2018 #12
Wasn't this something the Republicans originally pushed? MurrayDelph May 2018 #24
I'm from Texas and can imagine how they feel Vogon_Glory May 2018 #17
Can California please eliminate Mr. Nunes? sinkingfeeling May 2018 #18
If Newsom and Villaragosa make it a one-two on the November ballot RandySF May 2018 #21
and Dana Rohrabacher NewJeffCT May 2018 #35
This has great long term effects. If they don't appear on any statewide ballot it undermines grantcart May 2018 #19
California Just Passed the UK As the Fifth Largest Economy In the World DoctorJoJo May 2018 #20
Probably why Russia wants to kneecap the USA. They (and China)... Beartracks May 2018 #22
As California goes, so goes the nation ... aggiesal May 2018 #23
Boo-freakin'-hoo. Gee, I'm so broken-hearted... NOT!!!! calimary May 2018 #26
I wish Maryland was as progressive as GWC58 May 2018 #28
See you in hell GOP Blue Owl May 2018 #27
I want to see Repukes eliminated from CA, NY and New England on November 6th. roamer65 May 2018 #29
I want to see them eliminated from EVERYWHERE! N/T Upthevibe May 2018 #30
Wow. How cool is that!! RandomAccess May 2018 #31
I like Gavin Newsom a lot.... Upthevibe May 2018 #32
I'll send them thoughts & prayers NewJeffCT May 2018 #36
Maybe they shouldn't have voted for Trump's shitty policy. Demsrule86 May 2018 #38

Initech

(100,029 posts)
3. Dana, Ed, and Devin all need to go.
Sun May 6, 2018, 06:16 PM
May 2018

Dana and Devin especially need to go before Mueller and hopefully land a one way indictment. Traitors.

OnDoutside

(19,945 posts)
4. That's the thing, this should happen too unless someone can crack heads
Sun May 6, 2018, 06:17 PM
May 2018

and people get over their egos.

BigmanPigman

(51,565 posts)
6. Several months ago I read that if all the GOP congressmen flipped than
Sun May 6, 2018, 06:38 PM
May 2018

there would be enough to flip the entire House. I am not unrealistic and I know that would be asking for an impossibility, but if we could get rid of a few that would be great!

wryter2000

(46,023 posts)
5. Currently they are shut out of power
Sun May 6, 2018, 06:27 PM
May 2018

We have controlling majorities in the legislature and all the the statewide elected positions.

I was wondering how we get Newsom and Villaraigosa both at the top in the primaries. I haven't decided which one to vote for yet.

wryter2000

(46,023 posts)
8. I really want them to be 1 and 2
Sun May 6, 2018, 07:04 PM
May 2018

So they're the top two on the final ballot. I wonder if voting for Villaraigosa is the best way to achieve that.

RandySF

(58,455 posts)
9. I think so
Sun May 6, 2018, 07:14 PM
May 2018

Remember that this is a wide open jungle primary with NPP voters participating. So Newsom and Villaragosa are not fighting over Democrats only.

TeamPooka

(24,204 posts)
11. Vote Newsom. I lived in LA while Villaraigosa was mayor. He cheated on his wife with a reporter.
Sun May 6, 2018, 08:13 PM
May 2018

I know Gavin has ambition but I have never seen a more calculating ambitious man than Villaraigosa.
If he won the general election I do believe he would start running for POTUS right away in 2020.

Bucky

(53,936 posts)
13. Newsom and Villaraigosa are identical in those concerns
Sun May 6, 2018, 08:20 PM
May 2018

Gavin had an affair with the wife of one of his top supporters and aides. That's a stab-in-the-back too. And he is just as likely to start running for president 2020 as Villaraigosa.

Endorse the guy you want, but you have yet to show real difference between the two candidates

TeamPooka

(24,204 posts)
14. Villaraigosa was against legal weed until he started running for Gov. He allowed pot shops in LA
Sun May 6, 2018, 08:36 PM
May 2018

to be raided and closed when he was mayor and refused to endorse medical or legal weed forever.
He is endorsed by police unions because he's that guy. Mr. Arrest people Law and Order.
He was letting LAPD and DEA raid shops complying with state law.
Current mayor Garcetti does not allow LAPD to work with DEA.

He's good at cashing in too.
Since leaving the Los Angeles mayor’s office in 2013, Antonio Villaraigosa has made more than $4 million by advising companies such as Herbalife, Banc of California and natural resources company Cadiz...
http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-here-s-how-antonio-villaraigosa-made-1511308703-htmlstory.html

Herbalife should say it all.

Bucky

(53,936 posts)
15. Okay, that was better
Sun May 6, 2018, 08:39 PM
May 2018

We make better decisions when we go with governance issues rather than personality traits

TeamPooka

(24,204 posts)
16. I had not heard that about Gavin and am dissapointed but still believe he has made better policy
Sun May 6, 2018, 08:42 PM
May 2018

choices as a politician than the others.
And I want Kamala Harris to run for President in 2020 so both of these guys better stay out of that.

Bucky

(53,936 posts)
12. That's the very thing it's designed to do. Produce a moderate candidate.
Sun May 6, 2018, 08:17 PM
May 2018

If you have two Democrats running for statewide office, it's a safe assumption (but not a slam dunk certainty) that the more moderate of the two will be favored to win.

That's exactly the point of California's run-off system, which they copied from Louisiana. The idea is to keep the extremes of both parties counter checked against the need to run with an eye toward the general election in November.

MurrayDelph

(5,291 posts)
24. Wasn't this something the Republicans originally pushed?
Sun May 6, 2018, 09:31 PM
May 2018

If so, it would again show they never consider the consequences of their actions.

Vogon_Glory

(9,109 posts)
17. I'm from Texas and can imagine how they feel
Sun May 6, 2018, 08:47 PM
May 2018

We Texas Democrats have been frozen out of state offices for the better part of two decades. Texas is a de facto one party state.

Yes, I have a message for California Republicans. We feel your pain, but we have no empathy. We wish it was your Texas Republican colleagues who were in your position.

RandySF

(58,455 posts)
21. If Newsom and Villaragosa make it a one-two on the November ballot
Sun May 6, 2018, 09:07 PM
May 2018

we have a VERY good chance of making it a bad night for California Republicans in November, from the Senate all the way to Library Board.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
19. This has great long term effects. If they don't appear on any statewide ballot it undermines
Sun May 6, 2018, 08:55 PM
May 2018

Their ability to have sufficient name recognition the next time.

 

DoctorJoJo

(1,134 posts)
20. California Just Passed the UK As the Fifth Largest Economy In the World
Sun May 6, 2018, 08:58 PM
May 2018

So it is especially gratifying that the Demos are sweeping their politics, too. BTW: Mother Russia is not even in the top ten of world economies!

Beartracks

(12,797 posts)
22. Probably why Russia wants to kneecap the USA. They (and China)...
Sun May 6, 2018, 09:10 PM
May 2018

... are keen on increasing their influence across the globe, and a distracted, misled America leaves a power/influence vacuum that makes that possible.

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aggiesal

(8,907 posts)
23. As California goes, so goes the nation ...
Sun May 6, 2018, 09:20 PM
May 2018

This will eventually happen to the rest of the nation,
once they figure out that the GOP stands for Greedy One Percent.

calimary

(81,091 posts)
26. Boo-freakin'-hoo. Gee, I'm so broken-hearted... NOT!!!!
Sun May 6, 2018, 10:09 PM
May 2018

I think it might do these bastards some good to sit things out for awhile and do some brutally serious thinking. About who and what they are and what they tell everybody they’re all about, compared to what they actually wind up doing (as in - selling their souls - and selling out their country - for fame, fortune, and ESPECIALLY power).

They should wander in the wilderness from coast to coast until they sincerely come to their senses and repent.

GWC58

(2,678 posts)
28. I wish Maryland was as progressive as
Sun May 6, 2018, 10:50 PM
May 2018

California. True we’re a “blue state,” just not a progressive state.

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
29. I want to see Repukes eliminated from CA, NY and New England on November 6th.
Sun May 6, 2018, 10:53 PM
May 2018

Completely wiped out...gone.

Upthevibe

(8,009 posts)
32. I like Gavin Newsom a lot....
Sun May 6, 2018, 11:46 PM
May 2018

His baggage is basically that affair he had with his campaign manager's wife. Villaraigosa did a crap job here in L.A. I was excited when he was elected and was so disappointed by the half-ass job he did. Newsom has been on the cutting edge for years: He ordered city hall officials to issue marriage licenses for same-sex couples way back in 2004. On guns: “My grandfather committed suicide, but not before putting his daughter — my mother — and her twin against the fireplace and saying he was going to blow their brains out,” Newsom said. “That’s how I grew up. That’s how I found out about guns. “I can’t stand ’em.”

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