Pretty clear Joe Manchin gets ALL of our votes, eh!

[Eliot Rosewater]

https://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2018/senate/wv/west_virginia_senate_blankenship_vs_manchin-6326.html


I assume every person here would go out of their way to vote for or support Joe (if they could, of course).

[MineralMan]

1. Well, not so many DUers live in West Virginia, so...

The real question is what the voters in that state will do. That, I cannot predict.

[Eliot Rosewater]

4. I know, but alas me making a point again, arent I.

Me fears me may have to make this point for other states as well, like Pelosi in CA, etc.

[hlthe2b]

2. He may not be the "best choice" for ALL DEMS, but he's clearly the best choice in WVA

A real lesson in pragmatic politics as we look toward 2018.

[MyOwnPeace]

11. CORRECT!!!

Most recent example just a "holler away" in southwestern PA - Conor Lamb (Democrat) won in a special election. He won in a VERY red district that was well supported by IQ45 and the other Pugs.
He said that "he would not be Nancy Pelosi's boy" - and he won.
So, what do we do?
Shut him out?
Make him pay?
Find a way to make it work?

I hope we have a wise-enough group to figure it out!

[comradebillyboy]

3. I personally prefer Joe Manchin to any non-Democrat...

[RandySF]

5. Define "our"

A lot of those registered Democrats in West Virginia are going to vote for Blankenship.

[Eliot Rosewater]

8. I meant here at DU, sadly you are right that even Joe isnt far enough right for some.

[catbyte]

6. Even though he's no bargain, he's light years better than any Republican.

[0rganism]

7. Sen. Manchin could end up being the single most powerful senator in 2019

if Democrats run the table and somehow get to that elusive 51-49 senate majority, i expect Sen. Manchin's opinions on all kinds of issues will suddenly become intensely interesting.

[Eliot Rosewater]

9. AT least the non NAzi party will be in control of the senate and run all the

committees instead of the NAZI party.

[0rganism]

10. hooray for non-Nazis

see kids, sometimes the bar is set super-duper low

[bottomofthehill]

15. The non-nazi party......?

[0rganism]

20. the alternative* sucks so very much

Last edited Mon May 7, 2018, 04:53 PM - Edit history (1)

i for one gladly vote non-Nazi in all past and future elections
#NonNazisFTW

* alternative = alternative to non-Nazi

[Eliot Rosewater]

22. No, the alternative, D party , does NOT suck, but to some folks you have

to explain that one party actually is better than the other and some see the D party as barely better than the R party.

When in reality the D party is quite a good party

[0rganism]

25. by "alternative" i meant "alternative to non-Nazis"

sorry that wasn't clear enough
ETA: edited confusing post

[Eliot Rosewater]

23. That is how simple you have to make it for the nose holders who

couldnt trust our last candidate.

[bottomofthehill]

13. Only sort of. A Democratic Leader will still set the agenda.

Think of the Special Council Protection bill that McTurtle will not bring up.

He will have a lot of sway on the must pass bills though.... Still the choice is easy to me, better him than the other realistic options.

[0rganism]

19. those cabinet position hopefuls better plan to butter his biscuit real good

and we all know Orange Julius Caesar has a few open spots in his garage

[MyOwnPeace]

17. Yes, back to the "blue dog" days of early Obama

Hopefully after the experiences of the past 2 years we've gained some experience, intelligence, and wisdom to allow us to make reasonable, intelligent decisions about governing.
We could use the wisdom of Lyndon Johnson and his "persuasive abilities" at this point in time!!!!

[RandySF]

12. This how I look at things

1. In a blue state or district: I want the most progressive option available.

2. Purple: The best balance of ideology and electability.

3. Red: Give me the (D) so we can get one step closer to choosing committee chairs.

[bottomofthehill]

14. winner

[MyOwnPeace]

18. Well put!

The committee chairs positions are SO powerful - a serious control issue, for sure!

[Eliot Rosewater]

24. That is what I have always said, actually what I say is tell me which is the most

likely to win, that is who I vote for.

Unless there is a progressive candidate with little to no experience who will have to create alliances from scratch, and a moderate Democrat and the WH is occupied by a NAzi, then I choose the moderate.

[Atticus]

21. Would iffa could, ER. I'm in Illinois. Agree with the thought. nt