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Thu May 10, 2018, 09:07 AM

Has Trump turned America into a rogue state? If so, what should other nations do about it?

Free Dictionary definition: rogue state - a state that does not respect other states in its international actions.


A few examples of the disrespect that America has recently shown other nations:


Threatening other nations with sanctions if it doesn't do what America wants - most recently against Germany, France and UK regarding Iran.

Threatening "fire and fury like the world has never seen" against North Korea.

Pulling out of the Paris Agreement without providing any detailed explanation.

Childish Twitter attacks against other international leaders, for example the Mayor of London (who is Muslim).

Wanting to ban all Muslims from entering USA.

Lecturing other nations about NATO contributions/defense spending.

Calling other nations "shitholes."

Threatening other nations who don't support USA Football World Cup bid for 2026.

Stating a trade war with other nations.

Calling Mexicans "rapists and murderers."


Do you think America is now a "rogue state?" And if so, what, if anything, should other nations do about it?"

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Reply Has Trump turned America into a rogue state? If so, what should other nations do about it? (Original post)
Doodley May 2018 OP
RKP5637 May 2018 #1
bdamomma May 2018 #2
RKP5637 May 2018 #6
bdamomma May 2018 #11
RKP5637 May 2018 #12
bdamomma May 2018 #13
RKP5637 May 2018 #16
bdamomma May 2018 #17
RKP5637 May 2018 #18
bdamomma May 2018 #19
RKP5637 May 2018 #21
world wide wally May 2018 #3
RKP5637 May 2018 #14
bdamomma May 2018 #20
shanny May 2018 #4
Proud Liberal Dem May 2018 #5
RKP5637 May 2018 #8
Kirk Lover May 2018 #7
Proud Liberal Dem May 2018 #9
RKP5637 May 2018 #15
dembotoz May 2018 #10

Response to Doodley (Original post)

Thu May 10, 2018, 09:10 AM

1. Other nations will turn their backs on America as tRump continues to turn America the

opposite of what it once was.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #1)

Thu May 10, 2018, 09:39 AM

2. which Mr. Putin will be very happy

with to have us off the stage.

We have a treasonous POS squatting in the WH.

But you notice how tRump loves dictators and is isolating countries which used to be our allies, they will go it alone, and we will be shunned. Very dangerous for us right now.

America 1st???? no we will be isolated, this is not very insightful not for 2018.

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Response to bdamomma (Reply #2)

Thu May 10, 2018, 11:07 AM

6. What always makes me anxious are the number of damn fools in the US that support Trump and the

crime organization.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #6)

Thu May 10, 2018, 01:35 PM

11. they are cut from a different cloth

and they will never admit they have made a big mistake.

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Response to bdamomma (Reply #11)

Thu May 10, 2018, 01:36 PM

12. Yep, I think that's true for a certain percentage that got swept up in the fanfare. n/t

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #12)

Thu May 10, 2018, 01:38 PM

13. they were

conned by a con man.

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Response to bdamomma (Reply #13)

Thu May 10, 2018, 01:40 PM

16. Yep, one of the all time greats. n/t

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #16)

Thu May 10, 2018, 01:43 PM

17. and Mr. Putin

saw the divide and capitalized on it, get a jerk elected and take down the US and make Russia great again. Unbelievable or should I say very unfortunate.

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Response to bdamomma (Reply #17)

Thu May 10, 2018, 01:50 PM

18. If Iran and Israel get into some type of war, the US is obligated to get involved

under NATO? Right?

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #18)

Thu May 10, 2018, 01:57 PM

19. I thought tRump

was not a fan of NATO, but we know how tRump likes to change the narrative especially when Mueller and this Michael Cohen situation is getting hotter.

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Response to bdamomma (Reply #19)

Thu May 10, 2018, 02:03 PM

21. So unpredictable because even he doesn't know what he says/thinks minute by minute. n/t

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Response to Doodley (Original post)

Thu May 10, 2018, 09:59 AM

3. More of a pariah among nations

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Response to world wide wally (Reply #3)

Thu May 10, 2018, 01:38 PM

14. Yep, also if I lived in another country I doubt I would ever vacation or study in

America the way it is today. There are plenty of great places in the world to be.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #14)

Thu May 10, 2018, 02:02 PM

20. I am an ex pat

and with all this happening I don't think I would not be in any great hurry to move back either.

What is that saying “My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right.”

But then again, if push comes to shove.

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Response to Doodley (Original post)

Thu May 10, 2018, 10:02 AM

4. We've been there for a while (anybody remember Dimson Bush and his illegal war?).

 

But certainly now it is more extreme and more open.

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Response to Doodley (Original post)

Thu May 10, 2018, 10:04 AM

5. I don't know if I would classify us a "rogue" state yet

but our role on the world stage is certainly being diminished in a big way bit by bit and we are starting to be ignored by European countries. For all of the right-wing Republican blather about President Obama making the US look "weak" and "irrelevant", nobody could actually make us look worse than Donald Trump has so far. George W. Bush got the ball rolling on making us a pariah state with only a brief interlude with Obama where we were respected again.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #5)

Thu May 10, 2018, 11:20 AM

8. Well said!!! n/t

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Response to Doodley (Original post)

Thu May 10, 2018, 11:09 AM

7. Our allies will wait this out...hoping that the ship will be righted. If this type keeps "winning"

 

we are in trouble.

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Response to Kirk Lover (Reply #7)

Thu May 10, 2018, 11:42 AM

9. Agreed.

I just hope that Trump doesn't start to actively lash out at our European allies.

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Response to Kirk Lover (Reply #7)

Thu May 10, 2018, 01:39 PM

15. Yep, they are watching and the clock is ticking. n/t

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Response to Doodley (Original post)

Thu May 10, 2018, 12:04 PM

10. realize like china has, they can buy goods they used to buy from us elsewhere

do you continue to shop at the store that treats you like shit?

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