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Senate Dems (and Collins) have filed a discharge petition that will force a vote on net neutrality (Original Post) Ellipsis May 2018 OP
But, but! AT&T paid Michael Cohen good money to stop this! dchill May 2018 #1
McCain could make it 51 Iliyah May 2018 #2
I thought the VP only voted in the case of a tie. geardaddy May 2018 #3
You are right ashling May 2018 #4
Thanks! geardaddy May 2018 #6
Pence can only vote to break a tie bsiebs May 2018 #5
Exactly, except we and the entire nation wins if this goes through. lark May 2018 #7
Actually if a vote is forced the 49 Democrats and Collins win 50 - 49 karynnj May 2018 #13
If only I trusted Collins. AllyCat May 2018 #8
I"m with you....I don't trust her one bit /nt sdfernando May 2018 #10
It's not like I'd be the rent on McCain, either. BobTheSubgenius May 2018 #11
I am prepared bucolic_frolic May 2018 #9
Somebody reach out to McCain (via this network) and... DemocracyMouse May 2018 #12
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2018 #14
That's impressive. Good on the Dems...and Collins. nt JCanete May 2018 #15

geardaddy

(24,926 posts)
3. I thought the VP only voted in the case of a tie.
Thu May 10, 2018, 10:13 AM
May 2018

So, if McCain votes and makes it 51, then Pence can't vote. I'm not sure of this though.

bsiebs

(688 posts)
5. Pence can only vote to break a tie
Thu May 10, 2018, 10:46 AM
May 2018

If we have 50 votes against their 49 (assuming McCain doesn’t vote) then we win.

lark

(23,059 posts)
7. Exactly, except we and the entire nation wins if this goes through.
Thu May 10, 2018, 10:57 AM
May 2018

Net Neutrality is very important to small businesses as well as any progressive information consumer.

edit - fixed typo

karynnj

(59,495 posts)
13. Actually if a vote is forced the 49 Democrats and Collins win 50 - 49
Thu May 10, 2018, 12:17 PM
May 2018

If McCain does not vote (which is likely) and no Republican votes with Collins and the Democrats. (On this, where issue, where are the libertarians - like Senators Paul and Lee?

If McCain is the only Senator not voting, there can not be a tie -- so Pence gets no vote.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,558 posts)
11. It's not like I'd be the rent on McCain, either.
Thu May 10, 2018, 12:02 PM
May 2018

With him, you can never tell who's going to show up, and now, there's every doubt in the world that he won't.

The way the numbers look in this moment, it's probably better if he doesn't.

bucolic_frolic

(43,028 posts)
9. I am prepared
Thu May 10, 2018, 11:07 AM
May 2018

to cancel my ISP if service deteriorates. It's a backup contingency plan for power outages, but feasible if a bit slow or inconvenient.

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
12. Somebody reach out to McCain (via this network) and...
Thu May 10, 2018, 12:10 PM
May 2018

...explain to him that Net Neutrality is like the GI Bill. US soldiers back from the frontlines have an equal opportunity to get an education and an equal opportunity to participate in national web discourse.

They can return to these shores knowing we have their backs and they won't be treated like 2nd class citizens. They fought for freedom and on their return they get more than a medal: they get the backbone of democracy preserved by other Anericans who have been fighting for a people's infrastructure.

I'd be curious whether the number of pro-neutrality commentators in the run up to the FCC decision equals the number of US citizens in the armed services... just checked:

Armed services (+ reservists): 2 million
Pro-neutrality commentators: 4 million.
US citizens in support of net neutrality: 83%

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