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pstokely

(10,525 posts)
Fri May 11, 2018, 06:31 AM May 2018

Hawley blames higher ed for leftist ideology

http://www.columbiatribune.com/news/20180510/hawley-blames-higher-ed-for-leftist-ideology

"“Senator McCaskill has voted time and again to hand out millions and millions of your hard-earned money to these four-year colleges and institutions that take your money and then churn out increasingly worthless degrees with skills that nobody can use,” Hawley said. “Meanwhile, if you don’t have an expensive four-year degree in this country, you’re not treated with any respect.”

Colleges and universities should be responsible for repaying student loans of anyone who can’t find work in their field, Hawley said.

At a March Lincoln Day event in Gasconade County, Hawley said students are being miseducated by their schools.

“Our universities have taken billions of dollars in tax subsidies, your money, and they’ve taken billions more in middle class debt, your money, and they’re increasingly doing what?” Hawley said. “Giving students worthless degrees and indoctrinating them in far-left thinking. It’s time to put a stop to that.”
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Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
1. The New Millennium Know-Nothing Hate Party, Inc. (R)
Fri May 11, 2018, 06:33 AM
May 2018

republicans deserve to live in a moral and intellectual cesspool of their own devising. But no one else does.

Matthew28

(1,797 posts)
2. These fuckers will
Fri May 11, 2018, 06:36 AM
May 2018

transform this nation into a third world shit hole if they're successful. Vote like your lives depend on it this November because it probably does.

pstokely

(10,525 posts)
4. you can still be ignorant even with "expensive degrees"
Fri May 11, 2018, 06:43 AM
May 2018

he doesn't need to tear his up to join them

Pholus

(4,062 posts)
5. So the degree is simultaneouly worthless and indispensible?
Fri May 11, 2018, 06:46 AM
May 2018

If Hawley had paid attention in school, he'd have learned to make an argument that was not totally incoherent and self-contradicting.

pstokely

(10,525 posts)
8. he's got a Yale law degree
Fri May 11, 2018, 06:56 AM
May 2018

McCaskill only has a Mizzou law degree, where Hawley used to teach a few years ago

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
10. If you really want a worthless degree get one in far-right thinking
Fri May 11, 2018, 07:34 AM
May 2018

The jobs were streamlined away with computerization and robots. No clerical workers needed, just push a button.

Finding a niche is difficult when there are no mass, standard, average jobs. Read up with "No Fear, No Excuses" - a book by a Univ of Waterloo economist who's nurtured college careers over 40 years. If you have no employable edge, you are a commodity. It's got nothing to do with ideology. If everyone were a computer scientist, mathematician, or marketing wiz it would make no difference - there would be no edge in skills and they'd (mostly) all be unemployed.

sinkingfeeling

(51,444 posts)
11. Guess this fool never has needed a doctor, nurse, lawyer, reseacher,
Fri May 11, 2018, 07:34 AM
May 2018

scientist, engineer, chemist, or computer.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
12. Here's the response: "SCIENCE professors are liberals"
Fri May 11, 2018, 08:37 AM
May 2018

85% of scientists are liberals, according to an AAAS poll.
That's because scientists are trained to judge facts for themselves and come to their own conclusions, and they can see through the GOP propaganda machine.

Universities are liberal because universities are filled with SMART PEOPLE. And GOP propaganda relies on fooling gullible people. Period

SWBTATTReg

(22,112 posts)
13. Hawley is a joke...just recently too, he blamed the sexual revolution in the 60s for ...
Fri May 11, 2018, 09:11 AM
May 2018

sex trafficking! And other nonsense. He is purely a politics guy, in for show only, and not really for Missouri (he just got elected and here he is already running for the next job). Josh Hawley is also blaming the wrong people for their college cost woes.

And he's a hypocrite, using his degree to further his political agenda, and accusing the schools/colleges for far-left thinking (when in fact, this far-left thinking is just plain ol' using your head to figure out anything). How are the schools indoctrinating students? How?? If you're going to blame someone of something, prove it.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
15. Such a bunch of crap.
Fri May 11, 2018, 09:34 AM
May 2018

I was liberal even before I went to college. I went to school for engineering. My education had absolutely nothing to do with politics. It was all math and science.

There is no indoctrination in far left thinking happening. I bet there'd be no complaints from the conservatives if universities were institutions for far right indoctrination, though. That's what they want.

Stallion

(6,474 posts)
17. This Man Has a Dangerous Mind
Fri May 11, 2018, 11:06 AM
May 2018

Hawley who attended Stanford University for his undergraduate degree and Yale University for his law degree, is a former assistant professor of law at the University of Missouri and his wife, Erin Hawley, is currently an associate professor of law.

modrepub

(3,494 posts)
18. If Universities are so bad
Fri May 11, 2018, 11:58 AM
May 2018

Why doesn't Hawley just avoid all college graduates in his life. Keep off the roads because they were designed by college educated engineers. No cars either for the same reason. When you get sick don't go to the doctor's office or be treated by any college educated health care givers. On and on.

Oh, might I add this little nugget. One of our former work colleagues recently passed away. A great fellow. In his obituary he said we was very thankful that he was able to attend college after WWII on the GI Bill for free. He noted that free education led to America's postwar boom by substantially increasing the number of college graduates in the workforce. His point is still valid in my opinion and to note this as a passing thanks in his own obituary is reflective of the type of person he was.

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