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The history many did not know ..... (Original Post) Civic Justice May 2018 OP
Very interesting. smirkymonkey May 2018 #1
Jackie Kennedy Onassis was black ? left-of-center2012 May 2018 #2
DNA is its own truth.... Civic Justice May 2018 #3
Personally, I think this is a bit foolish. NCTraveler May 2018 #4
That's a click-bait site. MineralMan May 2018 #5
....not much on the internet is done without focus on advertising. Civic Justice May 2018 #6

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
2. Jackie Kennedy Onassis was black ?
Fri May 11, 2018, 11:26 PM
May 2018

It's an interesting idea but,
in my humble opinion,
I think it's more supposition than fact.

 

Civic Justice

(870 posts)
3. DNA is its own truth....
Sat May 12, 2018, 01:12 PM
May 2018

it will not be shaped or distorted to meet the preferred aims of some to want to believe not what it presents. It is what it is.

Its like the general society, who is eager and delighted to state and claim their links to any European ancestry, but rebuke even at the truths when there is African or other darker skin ethnic blood in their ancestry.

The ancestry commercials, have enlighten many to the mixture which is not what they previously thought.

Heck we got a insidious President who claimed Swedish Heritage, because he did not want to be known for his German Heritage from the era of Hitler.

The same buffoon, spent years denigrating Obama about his heritage, because he could not digest a black man in America being of mixed American and African blood being President.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
4. Personally, I think this is a bit foolish.
Sat May 12, 2018, 01:31 PM
May 2018

Outside of highlighting certain familial history.

I do like how they determined one was black by images on a coin. To be fair, I don't know the full history of Hannibal.

Let me know how people saw them when they walked out their front doors. If you claim to be white, pass for white, then you are white.

Now there are some white people who have actually tried to make themselves look black. Very rare.

The "one drop" thing, as is used at the link, is a bit questionable. Again, outside of historical perspective.

 

Civic Justice

(870 posts)
6. ....not much on the internet is done without focus on advertising.
Sun May 13, 2018, 04:12 PM
May 2018

Technology is exposing much, and the work with DNA is telling things that otherwise would not be told. Not liking it does not make it less than it is.
We don't have personal access to the info, but evidently someone has access and means to do research. No more just relying on a history book written by "white people" who may well have been under the influence of a society that was absorbed in prejudice and racism over many centuries and decades. Technology and the Internet makes it far more accessible for people to publish and post their works.

I'd say, we are only at the tip of the iceberg, when it comes to dispelling all the myths and fallacies of what was taught to generations via American History Books.
Now, others can and other do investigate and can and do make their findings available to a wide spectrum of society, as well as accessible to people int he global community of society.

I posted the old ideals of the Jim Crow Ideology, of which many glossed right past. when it discusses the various things that white society did not want known or things it wanted to promote of white superiority.

Stuff like, "at no time was a person of color suppose to tell a white man he was wrong", and "at no time was a person of color suppose to show or demonstrate superior knowledge above what white men did not know".

Heck, it seen in this site, where people get perturbed when black people speak about things the white man has spent centuries and decades trying to ignore, hide and deny. People as well get perturbed because on some university campuses, Asian apply themselves in way that convey their learning, and it was the same long ago, at Ivy League Schools, when white men gained their popularity based on which club and social organization they were members of, while the Jewish people focused on Academia. We've all heard it, where many white men were praised for being on the Rugby Team, or the Rowing Team, or Tennis and Etc... and they rode that into high positions in the corporate world. While the Jewish used their Academic excellence in learning to move into fields and become economically strategic in ways that perturbed the white men.

Ronald Reagan, when he was governor of California, saw the rise in Black and Latino and women going to college in vast numbers, and choosing fields of study once only available to white men.... and he proceeded to cut the funding and cripple the University of California funding and nearly devastated Community Colleges, to make way for the well to do in white middle class and upper middle class, who could financially afford to go to private university, and meet the inflated cost of State University after his policies elevated the cost of State University as well as imposed cost into the Community College sector. https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/EJ684842.pdf

We saw America destroy Unions, which were once hailed when they were dominated by "white males", but after the passage of the Civil Right Act of 1964, when Minorities and Women, could get good wage Union Jobs, the ideal for white men was to destroy Unions, after he used Unions to create the White Middle Class. he was not going to allow Unions to provide the same means to Minorities and Women.
After he Busted the Unions, he then proceeded to promote "Outsourcing", because he wanted to cut off the accessibility to jobs and economic means for Minorities and Women... In doing do, he damaged the "poor whites as well", but he never really cared much for poor whites, as they were considered no more than expendable service class masses, an they were suitable collateral damage, in the process to destroy accessibility for economic uplift to minorities and women.


The long history of Jim Crow Racism and Cultural and Ethnic Prejudices left nothing untouched within its aim, to promote concepts of white superiority. Therefore, there is "nothing" within America that can be discussed without discussing the Racist and Prejudiced elements that were embedded within it.


Therefore when it concerns "bloodlines" in American Society, the history has been to ensure to deny, cover up and dismiss any thought of black blood in the linage of people with any notoriety. People will gladly tell others, of the mixture of European Blood from Many and Any European Country, but they will rather go to their grave denying black blood within their heritage. Truth is there is lots of black blood in many people who have notoriety and many who don't have notoriety, and many of such people, have worked long and hard to hide that fact.

After people like Hoover, who went all out to hide that factor, one has to wonder, what some of the staunch racist are truly trying to hide.
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