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Sun May 13, 2018, 08:12 AM

I suspect that the silence from most Republicans in Congress

re: the cruel comment about John McCain (which is only the latest incomprehensible outrage) stems from the fact that every goddam one of them has received money from Russia, through the NRA or other cloaked sources, and they are only now finding out about this tainted money they were only too happy to accept. I think maybe that's why they're so ready to claim witch hunt and why they want the Mueller probe shut down, why they don't dare speak out against the obscenity which is Trump, why they are deciding not to run again. I think they're afraid that every last one of them has broken campaign law by accepting money from foreign donors *at the very least* and have committed frankly treasonous acts without knowing it.

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Reply I suspect that the silence from most Republicans in Congress (Original post)
cyclonefence May 2018 OP
Vinca May 2018 #1
shraby May 2018 #2
tblue37 May 2018 #24
jrthin May 2018 #26
Eyeball_Kid May 2018 #34
Texin May 2018 #32
Pluvious May 2018 #40
pandr32 May 2018 #36
BigmanPigman May 2018 #3
cyclonefence May 2018 #7
mucifer May 2018 #4
Civic Justice May 2018 #5
oberliner May 2018 #6
kentuck May 2018 #8
oberliner May 2018 #10
kentuck May 2018 #12
dameatball May 2018 #9
SallyHemmings May 2018 #11
kentuck May 2018 #13
cyclonefence May 2018 #14
kentuck May 2018 #15
cyclonefence May 2018 #16
pangaia May 2018 #31
vlyons May 2018 #17
True Blue American May 2018 #18
ashredux May 2018 #19
Perseus May 2018 #20
Javaman May 2018 #21
alfredo May 2018 #22
DarleenMB May 2018 #23
randr May 2018 #25
pangaia May 2018 #27
Beartracks May 2018 #39
JAD May 2018 #28
JDC May 2018 #29
Raster May 2018 #30
smirkymonkey May 2018 #33
WhiteTara May 2018 #35
malaise May 2018 #37
JAD May 2018 #41
Guilded Lilly May 2018 #38
sellitman May 2018 #42

Response to cyclonefence (Original post)

Sun May 13, 2018, 08:14 AM

1. I've been wondering about that, too. Time to invest in the orange jumpsuit factory.

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Response to cyclonefence (Original post)

Sun May 13, 2018, 08:16 AM

2. I think they DID know about it, and therefore the panic.

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Response to shraby (Reply #2)

Sun May 13, 2018, 10:16 AM

24. Yes, I am sure they knew. nt

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Response to shraby (Reply #2)

Sun May 13, 2018, 10:40 AM

26. And, if they DID know about it, why can't

they all be charged. Ignorance of the law is not an excuse. There has to be someone who can legally take them down. These men and women should serve time, being voted out of office is just not enough.

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Response to jrthin (Reply #26)

Sun May 13, 2018, 10:53 AM

34. There will likely be a RICO charge placed against the GOP leadership. You're on the money.

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Response to shraby (Reply #2)

Sun May 13, 2018, 10:52 AM

32. I fully agree with this.

There was something in the news many months ago (around the time tRump was about to be sworn in), involving Ryan and other congressional rethugs. He was caught on a hot mic unawares and flat-footed telling these members to keep their mouths' shut about something. It's my vague recollection that it was involving Russia.

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Response to Texin (Reply #32)

Sun May 13, 2018, 12:03 PM

40. IIRC someone commented that the Orange Menace was in Putin's pay

And this fact needed to be kept just within the team.

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Response to shraby (Reply #2)

Sun May 13, 2018, 10:55 AM

36. I think so, too--most of them anyway.

It would be nice to think there were a few who didn't realize it until later and then found they were indebted and had to go along, but I also wonder how long ago the Russian and mob taint started. How long ago did this money start filling the NRA? The super PACs?
Was it in 2014 when the Supreme Court struck down the ban on campaign donation caps or in 2010 when the Supreme Court rejected a limit to corporate spending in political campaigns?
We know the television propaganda model meant to dumb down average Americans and influence them politically began in the 1990s with Fox News--even earlier for radio (in the 1980s) after the Fairness Doctrine was repealed. Was there any illegal funding behind any of this, and when?

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Response to cyclonefence (Original post)

Sun May 13, 2018, 08:17 AM

3. Weren't they all on recess last week?

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #3)

Sun May 13, 2018, 08:21 AM

7. I know you're not excusing their silence

because every one of them has access to a news reporter no matter where they are, and any news organization, no matter where it is, would report any Republican making a comment that opposed Trump's position on anything. Can you imagine Republicans--or Democrats--holding their tongues in any other administration if a war hero--or any dying member--were talked about this way, by some punk office drone *in their own administration*?

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Response to cyclonefence (Original post)

Sun May 13, 2018, 08:18 AM

4. the problem is they can choose to ignore the results of Mueller's probe

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Response to cyclonefence (Original post)

Sun May 13, 2018, 08:21 AM

6. Doubtful

 

More likely, they don't want to piss off Trump.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #6)

Sun May 13, 2018, 08:29 AM

8. It may be that they don't want to piss off Trump because...

...they are fearful of what Trump might do to them??

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Response to kentuck (Reply #8)

Sun May 13, 2018, 08:34 AM

10. It all seems like political calculations to me

 

Republicans have nothing to gain really from pissing off Trump - and a lot to lose potentially (i.e. getting primaried).

The Republicans who have (mildly) called out Trump tend to be ones who are leaving Congress.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #10)

Sun May 13, 2018, 08:43 AM

12. True. Their silence is a vote for Trump and a vote for their own self-interest.

They have wandered into a briar patch.

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Response to cyclonefence (Original post)

Sun May 13, 2018, 08:30 AM

9. Many probably received tainted money,, others are waiting to see which way the wind blows.

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Response to cyclonefence (Original post)

Sun May 13, 2018, 08:43 AM

11. Wasn't Cohen Deputy Finance Chair of the RNC?

How much Russian money was funneled through
God knows what PACs...

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Response to SallyHemmings (Reply #11)

Sun May 13, 2018, 08:45 AM

13. He still is Deputy Finance Chair of the RNC.

And, in my opinion, that is the first hint to where the money is being laundered.

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Response to SallyHemmings (Reply #11)

Sun May 13, 2018, 08:45 AM

14. And don't super-pacs

protect the identity of donors?

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Response to cyclonefence (Reply #14)

Sun May 13, 2018, 08:48 AM

15. This sounds like the biggest scandal in American history.

If the fraud is as great as the possibility of fraud?

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Response to kentuck (Reply #15)

Sun May 13, 2018, 08:49 AM

16. I think it is

This administration is certainly far and away the most corrupt in our history, and the cruelest.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #15)

Sun May 13, 2018, 10:49 AM

31. It doesn't just SOUND like it.

It is for 100% sure.
NOTHING comes anywhere near what this is. And it IS GOING to get worse.

It is the overthrow of American 'democracy,' such as it was.

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Response to cyclonefence (Original post)

Sun May 13, 2018, 08:59 AM

17. The problem is

they are arrogant, condescending, ignorant, greedy racists, whose minds are filled with fear and hatred for "the other." They have no imagination, cannot think for themselves, and lie all the time. Other than that, they are fine Christian people.

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Response to cyclonefence (Original post)

Sun May 13, 2018, 09:09 AM

18. We know Mitch and Ryan did

The reason Ryan is getting out of town. I suspect McConnell will have a health crisis as soon as he loses control or Trump is exposed.

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Response to cyclonefence (Original post)

Sun May 13, 2018, 09:18 AM

19. BINGO!

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Response to cyclonefence (Original post)

Sun May 13, 2018, 09:21 AM

20. Most of them are involved

 

Most of them act very guilty and for anyone to think that conspiracies cannot be massive? Well, we are about to see that, in fact, they can be. What the GOP did to accomplish what happened in 2016 took a very wide concerted effort, and if anyone has any doubts just ask yourselves, why is it that republicans all say the same thing (verbatim) when interviewed? They are like Lemmings, repeat what some "mastermind" of the republican party comes up with.

I think they sit them all in a conference room, they give them the script and have everyone learn it by heart, then they go out and spew whatever the "leader" commanded them to say. I am sure they test them before they go out of the room, making sure they repeat every word in the right order.

They do deserve credit though, they are really good at manipulating stupid people.

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Response to cyclonefence (Original post)

Sun May 13, 2018, 09:23 AM

21. when all this began, i said to my gf...

this is systemic among the repukes.

watch, all of them will have some level of involvement.

it is now appearing to be just that way.

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Response to cyclonefence (Original post)

Sun May 13, 2018, 10:14 AM

23. You just now figured this out?

Seriously? And don't kid yourself ... they all KNEW where that money was coming from. Why do you think 39 of them have announced they will not run again. They are running scared and praying that leaving congress will protect them from Mueller. HA!

I have been saying for at least a year that the corruption in our government runs far, wide, and deep. And when the facts finally come out, trust me, there will also be a few Dems having their heads served up on a plate right along with the repubs. This investigation will shock the entire country at what is reveal. that's what MY crystal ball has been showing for months now.

Fasten those seatbelts, pop a mountain of popcorn and lay in a good supply of your favorite psychoactive substance. You're gonna need it.

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Response to cyclonefence (Original post)

Sun May 13, 2018, 10:25 AM

25. I have been suspecting the same since the Republican convention

Somehow the lsos compromised them all and now holds it over their heads. We may soon learn where the millions in the slush fund went.

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Response to cyclonefence (Original post)

Sun May 13, 2018, 10:45 AM

27. They have been mum for the last 18 months.

I propose they were just lying, greedy, evil, vicious, shit faced fucks to begin with.

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Response to pangaia (Reply #27)

Sun May 13, 2018, 11:50 AM

39. Lying, greedy, evil, vicious, shit-faced fucks of a feather...

... stick together.

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Response to cyclonefence (Original post)

Sun May 13, 2018, 10:47 AM

28. Republicans were recorded in 2016 discussing Putin paying Trump

May I direct your attention to the May 17, 2017 Washington Post article of the recording of Republicans Paul Ryan and Kevin McCarthy and other Republican House members. This discussion happened in 2016 and was recorded by a Republican representative.
Ryan when questioned by the reporter said. "The discussion never happened." When the reporter countered with, "We have the transcript." Ryan said, "The transcript is incorrect." When the reporter again countered with, "We have the recording." Ryan replied, "We were joking."
The Republicans knew Trump was an agent of Putin in 2016.

Knowing about treason and not telling the FBI, is treason.

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Response to cyclonefence (Original post)

Sun May 13, 2018, 10:47 AM

29. They knew all along where the money came from IMO

And you are right, they are trying to get out of Dodge before sunset.

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Response to cyclonefence (Original post)

Sun May 13, 2018, 10:48 AM

30. You are correct. I believe the GOP IS AWASH WITH RUSSIAN MONEY...

...they're NOT protecting tRump*, they are protecting themselves, and they know there are very few GOP Congresspersons that can claim innocence... MOST are in on it.

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Response to Raster (Reply #30)

Sun May 13, 2018, 10:53 AM

33. They also won't go up against Trump because if for some reason they do end up in prison, they

 

will want to count on a pardon from him and knowing how vindictive Trump is, he will only pardon those who kiss his fat ass.

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Response to cyclonefence (Original post)

Sun May 13, 2018, 10:54 AM

35. Except they did know.

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Response to cyclonefence (Original post)

Sun May 13, 2018, 10:59 AM

37. When in doubt remember

One of their legislative leaders has a wife in the cabinet and the other told them to keep it in the family

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/house-majority-leader-to-colleagues-in-2016-i-think-putin-pays-trump/2017/05/17/515f6f8a-3aff-11e7-8854-21f359183e8c_story.html
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A month before Donald Trump clinched the Republican nomination, one of his closest allies in Congress — House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy — made a politically explosive assertion in a private conversation on Capitol Hill with his fellow GOP leaders: that Trump could be the beneficiary of payments from Russian President Vladimir Putin.

“There’s two people I think Putin pays: Rohrabacher and Trump,” McCarthy (R-Calif.) said, according to a recording of the June 15, 2016, exchange, which was listened to and verified by The Washington Post. Rep. Dana Rohrabacher is a Californian Republican known in Congress as a fervent defender of Putin and Russia.

House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) immediately interjected, stopping the conversation from further exploring McCarthy’s assertion, and swore the Republicans present to secrecy.

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Response to malaise (Reply #37)

Sun May 13, 2018, 01:20 PM

41. Put on front page of Democratic Underground and keep it there. Lest we forget!

This article should be on the front page of Democratic Underground all day every day.

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Response to cyclonefence (Original post)

Sun May 13, 2018, 11:11 AM

38. And a large number of them are just soulless assholes.

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Response to cyclonefence (Original post)

Sun May 13, 2018, 08:33 PM

42. So how do we move forward?

The deck is stacked against us.

Does this mean Rump remains President and our little experiment with Democracy is officially over?

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