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http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/387566-schumer-applauds-trump-on-moving-us-embassy-to-jerusalemSchumer applauds Trump on moving US Embassy to Jerusalem
By Mallory Shelbourne - 05/14/18 10:56 AM EDT
In a rare moment of agreement with President Trump, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) on Monday praised President the move of the U.S. Embassy in Israel from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.
The statement echoed a sentiment Trump expressed in a video message presented at the embassy opening, in which the president said the move had been a long time coming.
But the embassys official opening Monday was also marked by a bloody day on Israels border with the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip.
The New York Times reported that at least 41 Palestinians were killed and more than 1,700 injured at the borders barrier.
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http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/387566-schumer-applauds-trump-on-moving-us-embassy-to-jerusalem
bdamomma
(63,836 posts)just leave it in Tel Aviv?
FBaggins
(26,727 posts)That legislation passed with overwhelmingly bipartisan support (about 10-1 IIRC).
Just a few months ago, a Senate resolution reaffirming the "Jerusalem Embassy Act" was passed 90-0
bdamomma
(63,836 posts)but why the urgency to move the embassy? if it's not broke why fix it?
FBaggins
(26,727 posts)You did note that President's have been deferring this decision every six months since the law was passed 23 years ago?
As for "not broke"... why did such massive bipartisan majorities in congress insist on it if they didn't think that something was "broke"?
bdamomma
(63,836 posts)educating me on this.
TeamPooka
(24,221 posts)so it has been held back by all President's as a carrot to a peace plan
Trump gave it away for free without getting Israel to commit to ANY good faith action like stop building settlements etc.
art of the deal
0rganism
(23,943 posts)seemed like there were a lot of international relations experts on the TV this morning who sounded pretty confused about why Trump would toss away a prime bargaining chip while getting jack shit in return.
personally i think he's doing it to bump his approval numbers but wtf do i know?
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)to get them through the November elections.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)Response to babylonsister (Original post)
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JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,338 posts)Schumer can't resist.
Ace Rothstein
(3,160 posts)This shouldn't surprise anyone.
jrthin
(4,835 posts)dubyadiprecession
(5,706 posts)Nothing like creating more unrest in the Middle East!
Me.
(35,454 posts)especially when he turned his back on PBO. It also says to me he isn't as smart as he thinks he is
Freethinker65
(10,009 posts)Sad.
Civic Justice
(870 posts)We want to attack Russia for its Encroachments, but we want to support Israel's Encroachments. - Why would we support the occupations drives of Israel ????
Look at the maps for yourself.
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)historically, but borders on antisemitic. I notice it ignores the Jews forced from their homes and holy sites destroyed during the 1948-1967 Jordanian occupation of Judea, Samaria, and East Jerusalem.
Civic Justice
(870 posts)I look at what was actually allocated to the Jewish people... as compared to the expanse of their encroachment. (I don't buy into the antisemitic phrasing as if nothing can be said of truths about the Jewish people, that they don't want to hear. I personally don't see them as being any more important than any other people on this earth.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Partition_Plan_for_Palestine
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)The agreement. That was their choice, unlike the Jews massacred in Hebron in 1929 or the abuses against Jews during Jordan's occupation of the West Bank.
All the PA has to do is agree to Israel's right to exist. The problem isn't "special Jews" it is racist Arabs. Your source is still BDS/Hamas propaganda.
Civic Justice
(870 posts)AncientGeezer
(2,146 posts)You link is of an irrelevant British mandate LONG since gone...When the League of Nations was still an entity and the Brits "ruled" that land
Civic Justice
(870 posts)....... an unresolved matter is still an unresolved matter. And cannot by rights default to benefit the Jewish at the expense of the Palestinians.
I don't see any reasonable need or benefit in life, to value the Jewish any more than to value the Palestinians as both being simply "PEOPLE".
BeyondGeography
(39,369 posts)Has backed Trump on a trade war with China, was hamstrung on opposing his tearing up the JCPOA with Iran since he voted against it to begin with and supports moving our Israeli embassy to Jerusalem. That's drawing some really bright lines between the parties on foreign policy, isn't it?
dawg
(10,624 posts)Go figure.
Va Lefty
(6,252 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)alarimer
(16,245 posts)How many protesters have been shot by IDF thugs at the behest of monsters Netayahu and Trump? 50?
Fuck this bullshit.
LuckyLib
(6,819 posts)Trumps decision was monumentally foolish. Our nations salute to everything Netanyahu is ridiculous.
maryellen99
(3,788 posts)I think about 85-90% of trump supporters are end timers as well. The deplorables love this.
Nanjeanne
(4,950 posts)Rustyeye77
(2,736 posts)Hamas using UN money for weapons
Terror TUNNELS
Hamas having a stranglehold on pal. lives
Hamas murdering so called traitors
Hamas murdering of LGBT persons
Egypt refusing to allow any pal. within 100 feet of their border
The endless rockets on Israel
Hamas control of food give by Israel.
"But, but, but....no one is excusing hamas. Israel should just take it without responding."
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)No, let's just keep pouring munitions into the area and see if that doesn't fix everything.
Rustyeye77
(2,736 posts)and how much progress did we get?
Makes no difference.
there will never be peace until hamas is voted out.... ohh, that's right hamas wont allow elections
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)So, you know, winning.
Takket
(21,558 posts)Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)IronLionZion
(45,427 posts)sometimes voters elect very shitty leaders
tritsofme
(17,376 posts)former9thward
(31,979 posts)They murdered their opponents in the PLA in the Gaza strip. So there was no one left to run against them. The PLA has rightfully cut off money and aid to the Gaza strip and now Hamas is suiciding people in fake "demonstrations" at the border to try and keep power. You notice no Hamas leaders have been killed. They are back in their bomb shelters in Gaza cheering people on at the border.
Rustyeye77
(2,736 posts)COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)still_one
(92,134 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)the Palestinians VOTING for the terrorist hamas as their leaders.
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)52 dead Palistinians.
Baclava
(12,047 posts)TeamPooka
(24,221 posts)It looks like it's just a little bigger
or it could be the same
might just be the angle of the photo
nature-lover
(1,469 posts)Crunchy Frog
(26,579 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)awesomerwb1
(4,267 posts)praising the dotard does not help our chances in 2018 (or 2020).
gejohnston
(17,502 posts)whatever the nations capital happens to be. That has been the bipartisan policy for decades, but we cowered to violent antisemites on the far left and far right for too long. I'm with Schumer on this.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)PeacefulPeavey
(24 posts)Why is this such a big deal?
From what I understand, the past 4 presidents have made this promise.
Running in 2008, Barack Obama also promised to move the embassy.
I continue to say that Jerusalem will be the capital of Israel, and I have said that before, and I will say it again," Obama said. "And Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided.
https://news.grabien.com/story-montage-past-presidents-promise-move-us-embassy-jerusalem
Autumn
(45,055 posts)didn't move it while in office? I think he would have handled it in a way to avoid the bloodshed that happened.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)They made the promise but also knew that actually doing it under the existing circumstances would result in tragedy. So they regularly waived the provision.
Trump is too stupid understand statecraft or he's too craven to care - or both.
This is a disaster - the result of having someone like him in this office. I'm sure that history will look back at this day as a critical milestone - and not a good one.
malaise
(268,930 posts)progressoid
(49,978 posts)So there. Nya nya nya.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Wonder why he has changed tune?
Nanjeanne
(4,950 posts)On Wednesday, June 4, 2008, would-be president Barack Obama told AIPAC (the American Israel Public Affairs Committee) that Jerusalem must remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided. before walking that statement back?
You are probably thinking of the 2017 vote where Sanders as well as 89 other Senators including all Democrats voted in favor of Senate Resolution 176, which reaffirms the Jerusalem Embassy Act of 1995 (Public Law 10445), which said that Jerusalem should be recognized as Israels capital and the US embassy should be moved to Jerusalem. Bernie did oppose the original 1995 Act, although most Dem Senators voted in favor. The 2017 resolution also included a variety of things like calls on the legislative body to recognize the half a century landmark since Israel captured the eastern part of the city during the 1967 Six Day War. As well as also says that Jerusalem is a holy city and the home for people of the Jewish, Muslim and Christian faiths.
There were no Nos. Some Senators, both R and D did not vote.
Furthermore, the text advocates a two-state outcome based on direct negotiations between Israelis and Palestinians.
shanny
(6,709 posts)is the most important issue. Even more than their hatred for tRump...or, possibly, the Palestinians.
AncientGeezer
(2,146 posts)"Let me be clear. Israel's security is sacrosanct. It is non-negotiable."
"The Palestinians need a state that is contiguous and cohesive, and that allows them to prosper but any agreement with the Palestinian people must preserve Israel's identity as a Jewish state, with secure, recognised and defensible borders.
"Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided. I have no illusions that this will be easy."
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)Both parties have been wrong on Israel's aparteid.
mvd
(65,173 posts)Hamas haven't been very good leaders. But Israel has their own problems with how they have treated the Palestinians. Israel also has far more military might. Jerusalem is very important in multiple religions, which is why the UN has been so careful.
nolabels
(13,133 posts)AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)Obama also wanted US embassy in Jerusalem. My jewish friends who are super liberal and visisted Israel are in agreement with this decision that was promised many times but finally delivered. There are so many more things to focus on with trump like treason that actually matter.
nolabels
(13,133 posts)(well, at least in civil societies). I do hear though, there was something said about tribes and warfare somewhere
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)would result in disaster to the peace process. That's why they never went further than talk.
Trump again proved today why he is utterly unfit to govern.
budkin
(6,699 posts)He's the worst kind of corporatist through and through
WiseElder
(132 posts)Golda Mier