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lindysalsagal

(20,592 posts)
Mon May 14, 2018, 09:45 PM May 2018

THIS is the only news that matters from now on:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210611823

frump gets brokerage fee for sale of part of russian company to Qatar: High treason.

(THREAD) BREAKING: Steele's dossier says Putin gave Trump a brokerage fee from the sale of 19% of Rosneft—Russia's oil giant. Today @MichaelAvenatti said a top agent of QIA—which bought the Rosneft stock—was secretly at Trump Tower 48 hours after the sale. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-rosneft-privatisation-idUSKBN13Z0QB

10:29 PM - May 13, 2018
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THIS is the only news that matters from now on: (Original Post) lindysalsagal May 2018 OP
K&R, I only give a damn about shit that will get Benedict Donald impeached and KGOP out of power uponit7771 May 2018 #1
Not me. In addition, I want him jailed. Marie Marie May 2018 #4
I just want to see him totally humiliated in public world wide wally May 2018 #13
All of the above please. shanny May 2018 #28
I want all of his assets seized and auctioned, criminals barred from bidding. nt NCjack May 2018 #41
I guess that "hung drawn and quartered" is off the table. pennylane100 May 2018 #47
He's already broke tazkcmo May 2018 #53
Yes I'm sure he's lying about his wealth. He always has. shanny May 2018 #56
As long as it's tazkcmo May 2018 #58
I hear you. shanny May 2018 #60
I want that whole fucking party jailed! They are all in on it! Initech May 2018 #49
It was after he got elected. RDANGELO May 2018 #2
I'm not trying to pick a fight, but is a President Elect protected by Executive Privalige? thewhollytoast May 2018 #29
Treason enid602 May 2018 #43
No. No protection under Exec Privilege during the Transition RandomAccess May 2018 #46
Not in nyt or wapo front page-yet. lindysalsagal May 2018 #3
K&R 2naSalit May 2018 #5
(AND this news is too important to use code language like K&R - please use publicly accessible terms DemocracyMouse May 2018 #16
. SixString May 2018 #18
K&R we can do it May 2018 #36
Yeah and if we think he's like a cornered rat now just wait PearliePoo2 May 2018 #6
K&R Solly Mack May 2018 #7
I knew the Rosneft deal was a prime mover in this conspiracy long ago. panader0 May 2018 #8
I can't tell you how many times I've Control-Z May 2018 #32
I bookmarked the thread yesterday. BigmanPigman May 2018 #9
RNC betrayed America Achilleaze May 2018 #33
K&R... spanone May 2018 #10
Where are repubs on this kind of corruption? Miigwech May 2018 #11
barely communist any more... pangaia May 2018 #15
True Miigwech May 2018 #17
But I sure get your point... pangaia May 2018 #19
Coolio Miigwech May 2018 #21
I think in their terms, it's business as usual. KY_EnviroGuy May 2018 #25
Standing there with their hands out waiting for a "taste." NoMoreRepugs May 2018 #40
I posted the unrolled thread earlier today RandomAccess May 2018 #12
Thnx lunasun May 2018 #30
This is amazing. Mueller is tying it all together. LuckyLib May 2018 #45
K&R for much-needed exposure meow2u3 May 2018 #14
Deeper dive. moondust May 2018 #20
Wow - Wray & Rosneft - KGOP totally corrupt Achilleaze May 2018 #34
The world will not be right until this bastard is in jail Pepsidog May 2018 #22
This site...group....community....whatever you'd like to call it... BobTheSubgenius May 2018 #23
Well-spoken. I think DU'ers (along with many decent folks around the world) have to partition flibbitygiblets May 2018 #26
What the............... PatSeg May 2018 #24
+100 n/t MBS May 2018 #35
What does that say about the rest of us? thewhollytoast May 2018 #57
Yes PatSeg May 2018 #59
Thinks Crutchez_CuiBono May 2018 #27
There is no reason for him to do it, but Avenatti should run against Spanky. Hassler May 2018 #31
Tip of the iceberg. He cut similar deals with Russia and China and god knows who else. Nitram May 2018 #37
But Wait! Firestorm49 May 2018 #38
I feel for poor Mr Mueller... malthaussen May 2018 #39
K & R SunSeeker May 2018 #42
Commission enid602 May 2018 #44
$282 million Ginger42 May 2018 #51
K&R Scurrilous May 2018 #48
In addition to convicted, he should be immediately keel hauled in the middle of the North Atlantic. Texin May 2018 #50
I've been waiting tazkcmo May 2018 #52
Coincidence. Trump never met him. Even if they were photographed together. Amaryllis May 2018 #54
Rachel on Rumaihi and Qatar and a lawsuit about Bannon and mentioning Flynn lindysalsagal May 2018 #55

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
53. He's already broke
Tue May 15, 2018, 05:54 PM
May 2018

He's either lying to the IRS when he says he's losing money or is lying to us when he says he's making it hande over fist. My bet is on the former.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
56. Yes I'm sure he's lying about his wealth. He always has.
Wed May 16, 2018, 12:02 AM
May 2018

I just want it demonstrated; proven. I want him reduced to sitting on the curb with the rest of the trash.

RDANGELO

(3,432 posts)
2. It was after he got elected.
Mon May 14, 2018, 10:01 PM
May 2018

If it's true, it has to be a violation of the emoluments clause at the very least.

 

thewhollytoast

(318 posts)
29. I'm not trying to pick a fight, but is a President Elect protected by Executive Privalige?
Tue May 15, 2018, 12:07 AM
May 2018

It seems to me that Donald Trump "The Candidate," should still be held accountable for his, and his campaign's actions.

I'm not a lawyer, but isn't waiting to be president, and being president two different things?

Toast

enid602

(8,598 posts)
43. Treason
Tue May 15, 2018, 11:58 AM
May 2018

'Dealing with the enemy' is a serious crime, whether you're a president or just a citizen. Ask Prescott Bush.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
6. Yeah and if we think he's like a cornered rat now just wait
Mon May 14, 2018, 10:02 PM
May 2018

until he realizes Mueller’s net has him and the thug’s necks in the net with no escape. He’s capable of ANYTHING! Never in our history have we seen anything like this. I hope we survive. What’s maddening to me is a lot of people are just oblivious to what’s going on. When does it hit the collective consciousness that this is some very serious shit?

panader0

(25,816 posts)
8. I knew the Rosneft deal was a prime mover in this conspiracy long ago.
Mon May 14, 2018, 10:06 PM
May 2018

As some have said, the deal may have made enough money for tRump to pay his Russian bills.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
32. I can't tell you how many times I've
Tue May 15, 2018, 03:25 AM
May 2018

posted about Rosneft. It is the reason, the only reason, Tillerson was hired. The job he was supposed to do disappeared when Obama added additional sanctions for the election tampering and Flynn was fired. The maggot kept him on until Putin gave him permission to let him go. That's the way I saw it.

BigmanPigman

(51,569 posts)
9. I bookmarked the thread yesterday.
Mon May 14, 2018, 10:21 PM
May 2018

SO MUCH CORRUPTION!

I also want to see how Cohen as the RNC's Chief Finance Chair likely funneled money to the RNC and Ryan, McConnell and the rest of the crooks gets nailed for that too.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210595088

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
25. I think in their terms, it's business as usual.
Mon May 14, 2018, 11:47 PM
May 2018

or, something like this:

"Providing synergy to diverse global investment opportunities"
.
.
In other words, the three G's: Grift, Graft and Greed............

moondust

(19,963 posts)
20. Deeper dive.
Mon May 14, 2018, 11:10 PM
May 2018

Speculation on possible bigger picture/food for thought. Don't know anything about the site.


June 7, 2017

Possible Bombshell Links Between Trump, Qatar, Christopher Wray, Rosneft, Putin & Steele Dossier

~

Today, President Trump announced that he is nominating Christopher A. Wray as the new FBI director. It just so happens that Wray’s law firm, King & Spalding, represents Russian oil company Rosneft. Rosneft is owned mostly by the Russian government, and coincidentally or not, was also named in the Christopher Steele Dossier.

~

BobTheSubgenius

(11,560 posts)
23. This site...group....community....whatever you'd like to call it...
Mon May 14, 2018, 11:19 PM
May 2018

...is the most vigilant, knowledgeable and, for the most part, civil entity of its kind, in my experience.

That being said, do you think it's possible that the people here are becoming numb...jaded...from the near-daily assault on dignity, integrity, even credulity? Obviously, I have zero insight into how you, you or you are taking this news, but I feel this should be setting off MUCH louder alarms and flashing MUCH brighter lights in my brain.

And, still and all, I am pretty damned alarmed, let me tell you. I can't quite capture my thoughts on this as accurately as I'd have liked. I hope my point at least makes some sense.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
26. Well-spoken. I think DU'ers (along with many decent folks around the world) have to partition
Mon May 14, 2018, 11:52 PM
May 2018

our outrage so that it does not take us down. I have to take long breaks from the news here and there, so the sheer enormity of the degradation we all suffer from, doesn't spiral into full-on depression.

Checking in here from time to time gives a sense that there are indeed decent people in the world. For that I am grateful.

PatSeg

(47,285 posts)
24. What the...............
Mon May 14, 2018, 11:35 PM
May 2018

They never even tried to keep a low profile! Everything was so in-your-face and pretty amateurish, it is amazing how much they have gotten away with. If this was a novel or a movie, it would be considered too ludicrous to be taken seriously.

I always thought that if someone took the world down, they would be granted very evil, but also extremely intelligent and devious. The world is being destroyed by clowns and idiots! What does that say about the rest of us?

 

thewhollytoast

(318 posts)
57. What does that say about the rest of us?
Wed May 16, 2018, 02:55 AM
May 2018

I think I have an answer, but it's not pretty.

My house is 2000 dollars ahead for the first time in 6 years. Both of our cars are past 200 thousand miles.

My youngest gets to do horse-camp. Horse camp will be the only thing we will spend our "mad-money" on this year. It will cost 135 dollars. Her "other" dad will drive her there. It's the best that he can do. His house is under water.

Point being, we all do what we can. But, as long as the Republican Mafia are in charge we are just going to make the best of things. It's not that people don't want to be active. Some of us are just too busy holding on to the side of the bowl. Tiny joke, I bake for a living. I am awake when most are not.

My spouse works at least 70 hours a week. Our, "Golden Hour", is 430 am til 530 am. I make her coffee and send her on her way and say, "have fun storming the castle!"

Now, I have to make muffins.

Toast

PatSeg

(47,285 posts)
59. Yes
Wed May 16, 2018, 09:04 AM
May 2018

I can look back at times in my life when I was barely aware of what was going on in the world, as I was living day-to-day just trying to raise children on my own, often barely surviving. The world of politics, current events, and government seemed so removed from my small life. There were times when I didn't even have a television or access to a newspaper.

"What does that say about the rest of us?" is actually a very board question and I include my own periods of apathy in there. What concerns me the most are the people who watch Fox News, listen to right-wing radio, and read tabloids to stay "informed". I've known people like that throughout my life (before Fox News), but they had no interest in politics and didn't vote. Many of them were pretty decent people and often good neighbors, before people like Sean Hannity or Rush Limbaugh started to play on their fears and insecurities, encouraging their hatreds, not always a hard thing to do.

Then there were the Evangelicals and Born Agains I've known. Once again, though they could be exhausting in their zeal and desire to save the world, they were often good people. They weren't interested in politics, that was much too worldly for them. Politicians hadn't yet reached out to them, fostering distrust and fear in order to garner more votes, making promises they'd never keep in the process.

So as I look back at the different decades, the people I've known, and the changes I've witnessed, I can see a perfect storm building. I'm really not sure what any of us could have done to change it. In hindsight, there are things I may have done differently, but others probably not. Who can say? I suppose I really became hyper alert after the 2000 presidential election and 9/11. Not only was I more motivated, I had more time, the Internet, and cable news.

I am retired now and I have time to ask questions, make observations, and seek answers.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
27. Thinks
Mon May 14, 2018, 11:53 PM
May 2018

he's such a fabulous speaker. All the gesturing. See Mussolini. Yo dt....you're never going to be Cosa Nostra, you aren't Italian. (Thank Gods)

Hassler

(3,369 posts)
31. There is no reason for him to do it, but Avenatti should run against Spanky.
Tue May 15, 2018, 12:27 AM
May 2018

He plays the game with the ruthless enthusiasm so lacking from the Dems.

Firestorm49

(4,030 posts)
38. But Wait!
Tue May 15, 2018, 09:46 AM
May 2018

Don’t forget to add onto the pile of corruption and emolument clause infractions the $500M that the unpopularly elected “leader” of the free world just received from the Chinese government to put up a hotel. All he had to do was break the rules again and give the Chinese phone conglomerate a pass on sanctions, which by the way, we’re put in place for a reason.
It’s bad enough that all of this is happening with no repercussions whatsoever from the party that claims to own the Constitution, or whatever they want to label themselves these days, but to flaunt it in our faces is ever more proof of the dire situation we are now experiencing.

malthaussen

(17,175 posts)
39. I feel for poor Mr Mueller...
Tue May 15, 2018, 10:16 AM
May 2018

... every time he thinks he's ready to present a case, some new bit emerges. It's a neverending job.

-- Mal

enid602

(8,598 posts)
44. Commission
Tue May 15, 2018, 12:11 PM
May 2018

Any news as to what the monetary value of said commission might be? Could be upward of $1 billion. Who knows?

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
52. I've been waiting
Tue May 15, 2018, 05:52 PM
May 2018

For the word Rosneft to be said on every cable news channel since Shitgibon was elected. That oil field is at the heart of this whole mess.

lindysalsagal

(20,592 posts)
55. Rachel on Rumaihi and Qatar and a lawsuit about Bannon and mentioning Flynn
Tue May 15, 2018, 09:35 PM
May 2018

Something about a california basketball team's owner suing Qatar.

Mentioning Avenatti's heads up about the meeting on the 12th and Cohen and Rumaihi.

Maybe just a publicity stunt for a 3-on-3 basketball league.

She says Rumaihi admits being there Dec. 12th 2016 (just before inauguration. )

Qatari bribes for Flynn and Bannon, with Cohen there.
Kuschners trying to get Qatari $$ for NYC trump tower.

Brought on Sugarmann, an expert on Qatar. He says Qatar launders russian money going to trump, but trump backs out.#180mill loan sent from Qatar to Kischner.

It' also involves the Saudis.

All about Russia paying trump for relief of sanctions.

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