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Gothmog

(145,130 posts)
Tue May 15, 2018, 10:27 AM May 2018

China gave Trump a list of crazy demands, and he caved to one of them

From the Washington Post https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/josh-rogin/wp/2018/05/15/china-gave-trump-a-list-of-crazy-demands-and-he-caved-to-one-of-them/?utm_term=.08521cca22b3

After top Trump officials went to Beijing last month, the Chinese government wrote up a document with a list of economic and trade demands that ranged from the reasonable to the ridiculous. On Sunday, President Trump caved to one of those demands before the next round of negotiations even starts, undermining his own objectives for no visible gain.

The Chinese proposal is entitled, “Framework Arrangement on Promoting Balanced Development on Bilateral Trade,” and I obtained an English version of the document, which is the Chinese government’s negotiating position heading into the next round of talks. That round begins this week when Xi Jinping’s special economic envoy Liu He returns to town.

Bullet point 5 is entitled, “Appropriately handing the ZTE case to secure global supply chain.”

“Having noted China’s great concern about the case of ZTE, the U.S. will listen attentively to ZTE’s plea, consider the progress and efforts ZTE has made in compliance management and announce adjustment to the export ban,” the document states.

Trump is a shitty negotiator
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China gave Trump a list of crazy demands, and he caved to one of them (Original Post) Gothmog May 2018 OP
Can't wait until he meets with Kim still_one May 2018 #1
Of course he's a shitty negotiator Phoenix61 May 2018 #2
Trump couldn't negotiate a deal... Dave Starsky May 2018 #3

Phoenix61

(17,002 posts)
2. Of course he's a shitty negotiator
Tue May 15, 2018, 10:59 AM
May 2018

A good negotiator can understand the other party's point of view and that requires empathy. Malignant narcissists don't have empathy. There's a big, empty hole where empathy should be. His deal making is nothing more than his reaching for some shiney thing he want's now that will fill the hole. There is no plan for the future, no long game, just now. He ping pongs through life going from one deal to the next trying desperately to fill the hole. Sadly, for him anyway, there is no way to really fill the hole. It's like trying to fill a bathtub without putting the plug in. Sure, if you run the water hard enough you can get the level to rise but that tub is never getting filled. This makes him highly vulnerable to manipulation by others. Putin figured it out. Kim and Xi figured it out. Hell, the whole effing world has figured it out.

My Dad used to say the only reason the repubs ran Bush was because he was smart enough to win and stupid enough to be used by the oil industry. I really think the repubs thought Bush worked out so well they'd try it again. They appear to have miscalculated a bit. Bush stayed on his leash. Twitler slipped his the second he got the nomination and he's been running free ever since.

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