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pnwmom

(108,974 posts)
Thu May 17, 2018, 03:03 AM May 2018

Two reasons to doubt the analysts who speculate Mueller might have "hidden" the Cohen SARS reports

perhaps behind some "wall" in the database, as a way of keeping them safe:

First, the whistleblower himself (or herself )-- a law enforcement official -- doesn't believe Mueller is "protecting" the missing files. That's why the whistleblower risked 5 years in prison to put the records out in public. He or she is terrified that someone is whitewashing the files.

Second, because these files couldn't be located, Maxine Waters and anyone else in Congress who had the right to see them is unable to do so. (She made an official request to see them in January.) I can't imagine Mueller deliberately prevented Congress from doing its oversight, without explaining to them why he would need to prevent them from reviewing the SARS reports.

The analysts who speculated that Mueller was responsible for this seemed to think that any other possibility -- for example, the the idea that someone, to use Waters word, "scrubbed" the database -- was too horrifying to imagine. When will the media and "experts" stop being shocked at the things DT is capable of?

Who doesn't think that, if the records are inexplicably missing, Russian or other hackers might be responsible? Or maybe a corrupt or traitorous American working for Cohen and/or DT.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/05/whistleblower-leaked-damning-cohen-financial-documents-because-they-were-disappearing-from-government-financial-crimes-database.html

The New Yorker’s source continued: “I have never seen something pulled off the system… .
That system is a safeguard for the bank. It’s a stockpile of information. When something’s not there that should be, I immediately became concerned.” The official added, “That’s why I came forward.”

“Some speculated that FINCEN may have restricted access to the reports due to the sensitivity of their content, which they said would be nearly unprecedented. One called the possibility ‘explosive,’” former government officials told the New Yorker. “Nevertheless, a former prosecutor who spent years working with the FINCEN database said that she knew of no mechanism for restricting access to SARS.” The disclosed SARS filed by First Republic Bank with the Treasury Department covered a million dollars in transactions made by Cohen between September of 2017 and January of 2018. “The first report that the official was unable to locate, which covered almost seven months, appears to have listed a little over a million dollars in activity,” the New Yorker reports. “The second report that the official was unable to locate, which investigated a three-month period between June and September of 2017, found suspect transfers totaling more than two million dollars.” Other banks also filed SARS based on Cohen’s financial activity that had all the indications of illegal activity: from money laundering to “bribery or gratuity” and “suspicious use of third-party transactors (straw-man).”

The financial warning signs were there and the suspicious-activity reports appeared to have done their job in flagging potentially illicit activity. This is not an uncommon occurrence in the world of white collar crime and intricate financial investigations; its proximity to the president, however, is unique. That proximity, it appears, prompted the whistleblower to act and disclose the remaining financial documents for fear that Cohen’s potential financial crimes were in the process of being scrubbed from the system, whitewashed from the record. The disclosure carries with it the possibility of up to five years in prison and a significant fine, but the official, knowing the potential consequences, decided it was a risk worth taking.

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Two reasons to doubt the analysts who speculate Mueller might have "hidden" the Cohen SARS reports (Original Post) pnwmom May 2018 OP
The files were scrubbed. Trump's got his octoberlib May 2018 #1
Makes no sense to "scrub" 2 and leave 1 DeminPennswoods May 2018 #2
It does if you're dumb or careless. DT's people made a lot of stupid mistakes. pnwmom May 2018 #3
It could be the first two were scrubbed before the third was created. docgee May 2018 #5
History will absolve me malaise May 2018 #4
republicans and russians both have long track records of cheating and lying Achilleaze May 2018 #6
In the court of public opinion, Trump no longer deserves a presumption of innocence. Girard442 May 2018 #7
+1, "He's a thug" THIS uponit7771 May 2018 #9
K&R, "When will the media and "experts" stop being shocked at the things DT is capable of? " uponit7771 May 2018 #8
kick & rec. Ilsa May 2018 #10
Is there no protection for the whistleblower ? OnDoutside May 2018 #11

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
1. The files were scrubbed. Trump's got his
Thu May 17, 2018, 03:43 AM
May 2018

people in the Treasury who could arrange to have that that done. Trump, himself has files in FINCEN for not abiding by money laundering regulations when he owned his casinos. He got fined for it , too.

DeminPennswoods

(15,278 posts)
2. Makes no sense to "scrub" 2 and leave 1
Thu May 17, 2018, 04:38 AM
May 2018

at all. If you are going to delete data, you don't leave a trail that says you did it. You delete all the data. Anyway, I'm betting the banks retain copies of all SARs they submit.

It makes much more sense that Mueller's team, Southern District NY or FBI counterintelligence got access to the other 2 SARs restricted. The fact is Mueller/FBI have gotten a few unusual things done like the recently reported secretly getting the statute of limitations for Manafort's financial crimes lifted. When have we ever heard of that being done? This is a huge, sprawling investigation. I believe even Trump cultists will be shocked when all the truth comes out.

pnwmom

(108,974 posts)
3. It does if you're dumb or careless. DT's people made a lot of stupid mistakes.
Thu May 17, 2018, 04:58 AM
May 2018

I just can't see Mueller setting up a situation where Congress was denied access to documents they requested -- without informing Congress that they were being withheld. The Justice Department told Congress when they wouldn't share other documents related to the Mueller investigation. That's what Mueller would have done in this case, too. It wouldn't have given away any investigative secrets to tell Congress that they were investigating Cohen and his LLC -- we've known about that since March -- and that they needed to keep the banking records secret.

docgee

(870 posts)
5. It could be the first two were scrubbed before the third was created.
Thu May 17, 2018, 06:13 AM
May 2018

Either the scrubber didn't know of the third or was no longer in position to do any scrubbing when it was created by the bank.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
6. republicans and russians both have long track records of cheating and lying
Thu May 17, 2018, 06:49 AM
May 2018

so I'm sure this was a KGOP scrub job to once again stuff the truth from the American people.

Girard442

(6,067 posts)
7. In the court of public opinion, Trump no longer deserves a presumption of innocence.
Thu May 17, 2018, 07:25 AM
May 2018

He's a thug. If something a thug could have done ends up handing him a major benefit, it's on him to show he didn't do it.

You don't bring Robert's Rules of Order to a knife fight.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
10. kick & rec.
Thu May 17, 2018, 08:43 AM
May 2018

This is huge deal that someone needs to address publicly, IMO. We need to be assured that anything deleted from the database is preserved by law enforcement. If not, the FBI needs to be investigating this NOW.

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