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Thu May 17, 2018, 06:34 PM

 

US Treasury FINCEN Issues Statement About SAR Availability





Can we calm the fuck down now?

Tweeter is WSJ reporter.

The "whistleblower" is interfering with a criminal investigation.

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Reply US Treasury FINCEN Issues Statement About SAR Availability (Original post)
jberryhill May 2018 OP
manor321 May 2018 #1
jberryhill May 2018 #7
bettyellen May 2018 #10
tazkcmo May 2018 #2
ProudLib72 May 2018 #3
jberryhill May 2018 #6
B2G May 2018 #4
gibraltar72 May 2018 #5
hlthe2b May 2018 #8
AJT May 2018 #9
jberryhill May 2018 #11
AJT May 2018 #12
jberryhill May 2018 #13
AJT May 2018 #14
mercuryblues May 2018 #15
Me. May 2018 #16
jberryhill May 2018 #17
Me. May 2018 #18
pnwmom May 2018 #19

Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu May 17, 2018, 06:37 PM

1. Fascinating!

 

That likely means Mueller or the NY guys thought THOSE TWO reports were so damaging they wanted them restricted, while leaving the other one unprotected. And that unprotected one was pretty damaging! LOL.

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Response to manor321 (Reply #1)

Thu May 17, 2018, 06:48 PM

7. Not damaging - potentially involving classified information

 


Well, yes, damaging... but possibly involving transactions with foreign intelligence agents whose identity is preferred not to reveal at the moment.

But, at this point, since Avenatti has been blasting information which appears to have come from SARS, then it may not be difficult for the relevant parties at this point to realize that whatever cover they believed they had in connection with payments to Cohen's operations may have been blown.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #7)

Thu May 17, 2018, 06:52 PM

10. I think anyone who dealt w Cohen has no expectations that's private anymore....

 

I get that people are concerned about Mueller making the case but I think these leaks are possibly keeping him from being removed- and keeping the story in the news.
Ironic to see the WH crying about leaks after campaigning with them.

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu May 17, 2018, 06:38 PM

2. No new news here.

I'm sure the person who has expressed concern over this is aware how it works thus the concern.

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu May 17, 2018, 06:43 PM

3. Let me see if I understand you correctly

You're saying that Alex Jones and Julian Assange in concert with Guccifer 2.0 hacked into FinCEN database and stole the SARS documents that were actually inscribed in stone by the last remaining Cromagnon in a cave in southern France and that those stones will be shot into space for eventual pickup by the alien mothership that has been directing the robot people in congress for the last fifty years?

Got it!

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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #3)

Thu May 17, 2018, 06:44 PM

6. More details on that theory here

 

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu May 17, 2018, 06:43 PM

4. Dude's in serious trouble.

 

Can we stop calling him a whistleblower now?

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu May 17, 2018, 06:44 PM

5. I'm guessing the whistleblower realizes nothing is normal anymore.

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu May 17, 2018, 06:49 PM

8. I feel certain both Ronin and Rachel said they'd tried to contact FinCEN about it...

Seems their spokesperson COULD have headed this off at the pass had they merely addressed their typical procedure.

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu May 17, 2018, 06:50 PM

9. Supposedly Farrow spoke to a number of FINSEC people who claim

they have never experienced this, and don't recall hearing that anyone else had either.

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Response to AJT (Reply #9)

Thu May 17, 2018, 06:55 PM

11. So what?

 


Honestly, so what?

It's obviously exceptional, and would only come up through procedures implemented above their pay grade.

This is the same kind of thing that happened when birthers "discovered" that Barack Obama "was not a citizen" by making unauthorized use of E-verify - not knowing that his SSN records were locked down to avoid access by looky-loos. Well, golly, none of them had ever run across an error of the sort they got either.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #11)

Thu May 17, 2018, 07:09 PM

12. The person involved here works for FINSEC and is not some outsider

FINSEC investigations aren't uncommon, and the tweet says it makes SARs unavailable during ongoing investigations. I would think that other FINSEC employees would have run into the situation where documents would be unabailabe. Why wouldn't all of the SAR documents pertaining to Cohen's business account be locked down since the information in those documents pertain to the investigation? My thought is that the SAR info. is in Mueller's hands, but I don't think that locking down documents is the norm, I think this is a special exception to the rule and thus the concern.

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Response to AJT (Reply #12)

Thu May 17, 2018, 07:12 PM

13. Ever dealt with an IRS agent?

 


Knowing all of the possible rules and procedures at one's agency is a tall task.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #13)

Thu May 17, 2018, 07:16 PM

14. Especially when they are constantly changing.

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu May 17, 2018, 07:19 PM

15. So there are 2 competeing theories

1. Someone in the department deleted the SARS, so the whistleblower leaked out the remaining one.

2. Access to the missing SARS has been limited due to the nature of the investigation.

Both can't be true, But 1 of them is. Neither scenerio bodes well for Cohen.


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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu May 17, 2018, 08:16 PM

16. But Did They In This Instance?

Saying isn't doing

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Response to Me. (Reply #16)

Thu May 17, 2018, 08:26 PM

17. Quite obviously they would not be able to say that

 


And given that access to existing and referenced documents is known to be unavailable, itís not as if their statement would be this.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #17)

Thu May 17, 2018, 08:30 PM

18. Quite

The old Agatha Christie rule applies ...if you didn't see it or hear it yourself no one can attest to the truth or not until a thorough investigation.

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Response to jberryhill (Original post)

Thu May 17, 2018, 08:43 PM

19. Maybe. But wasn't the head of that appointed by DT?

So I give at least some weight to the views of the law enforcement official who is risking 5 years in prison because of his concern that the records were whitewashed.

Also, shouldn't they have informed Maxine Waters and other in Congress who had asked for those materials that they wouldn't be made available?

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