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About the "royal wedding", put me down for "Don't give a damn and resent the 100% (Original Post) Atticus May 2018 OP
yeah, but just look at them bigtree May 2018 #1
Gag worthy Funtatlaguy May 2018 #2
two people in love bigtree May 2018 #6
Ridiculous spectacle Funtatlaguy May 2018 #15
If you "could care less" I guess you do care onenote May 2018 #139
This!! It's one of my biggest pet peeves. Ferrets are Cool May 2018 #205
It's sentimental, mawkish TRASH MountCleaners May 2018 #32
I like weddings bigtree May 2018 #61
This wonkwest May 2018 #274
Why all the emotion and even hostility on this thread? Hortensis May 2018 #150
For sure.. Crutchez_CuiBono May 2018 #159
All healthy suggestions and bittersweet perspectives. Hortensis May 2018 #167
TY. We all have a Saturday and Sunday in front of us... Crutchez_CuiBono May 2018 #184
You're awesome wonkwest May 2018 #275
Actually, they can't... radical noodle May 2018 #267
Yeah, and it happens every day of the week minus wall to wall coverage. n/t whathehell May 2018 #64
Imagine if we celebrated and 'covered' love and expressions of love more often bigtree May 2018 #69
It'd get crapped on as fluff and distracting from the important issues of the day Blue_Adept May 2018 #71
Yeah..In fact, Imagine There's No Heaven..It's Easy if You Try.. whathehell May 2018 #77
imagine bigtree May 2018 #83
Save it for the Romance Channel whathehell May 2018 #92
how shallow of you bigtree May 2018 #93
Lol. Nice try whathehell May 2018 #115
you sound bitter bigtree May 2018 #119
This admin and the news cycle Crutchez_CuiBono May 2018 #161
Make sure to complain about posts and topics about what a great romance the Obama's have as well Blue_Adept May 2018 #120
Um, no whathehell May 2018 #128
As you said... Blue_Adept May 2018 #129
If you say so, lol whathehell May 2018 #137
A lot of curmudgeons around this morning. MLAA May 2018 #130
It most certainly is what I strive for.. I'm with you on this, bigtree.. Cha May 2018 #102
thank you, Cha bigtree May 2018 #107
No worries.. Cha May 2018 #110
The wedding was wonderful pandr32 May 2018 #191
Mahalo for that, pandr! Cha May 2018 #260
Such a great contrast between the two pictures pandr32 May 2018 #264
LOL@your rooster Jones.. We have so many on Kauai.. Cha May 2018 #265
+1 betsuni May 2018 #109
Agreed Docreed2003 May 2018 #122
Neither of those people would ever, EVER Codeine May 2018 #153
Attitudes and feelings we ascribe to others usually Hortensis May 2018 #177
my son presented me with the same conjecture bigtree May 2018 #179
No, they don't care about us. They're too busy with this AIDS charity The Velveteen Ocelot May 2018 #195
And they probably would never say, "screw them" if anyone mentioned one of us in their presence EffieBlack May 2018 #245
people care about what they are wearing and what celebs will show up . JI7 May 2018 #270
Tens of thousands of people get married every Saturday. GoCubsGo May 2018 #8
depends on how many people are interested in seeing their individual weddings. bigtree May 2018 #12
It's sad that this is what this country has come to. GoCubsGo May 2018 #22
tv has always been about ratings bigtree May 2018 #48
Imagine th ratings one of them would get if they showed their regular programming GoCubsGo May 2018 #149
Television networks showing a heavily publicized event John Fante May 2018 #209
I'd guess the programmers overestimated the market whathehell May 2018 #95
I watched it and loved it, gave me CelticWinter May 2018 #208
Yeah, privilege will do that for you. misanthrope May 2018 #217
I think we should give their 'privilege' the same regard we would want them to give bigtree May 2018 #219
from what I saw KT2000 May 2018 #227
This has been planned for months.. cwydro May 2018 #3
I am enjoying the brief respite of watching a happy event. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2018 #4
I know. The sourpuss comments are cracking me up. cwydro May 2018 #74
All the people who died fighting the Revolution would be horrified. GoCubsGo May 2018 #5
This is in England. cwydro May 2018 #7
We'd probably be better off at this point if we actually were. GoCubsGo May 2018 #16
Many Americans can't seem to grasp the US is flying apart under tRump, their rights being destroyed RKP5637 May 2018 #58
But, it's cool, because "ratings." GoCubsGo May 2018 #65
Yeah, but more do whathehell May 2018 #140
Hopefully they are catching on. I just can't believe so many have fallen for the BS they sling. RKP5637 May 2018 #143
The fawning wall-to-wall coverage MountCleaners May 2018 #26
Yeah but any American who fawns over this family makes me want to hurl Dalida May 2018 #169
Right on. Funtatlaguy May 2018 #9
FFS, this is happening in England. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2018 #19
Really, it is. ..?????? Guh, huh, well, gollleeeeee Funtatlaguy May 2018 #24
You sound unhappy. cwydro May 2018 #87
You like to tell people what to do. Funtatlaguy May 2018 #116
You seem to enjoy telling tv networks what they should onenote May 2018 #144
Yes, every time we want to bomb a country MountCleaners May 2018 #37
You must be loads of fun at parties EffieBlack May 2018 #246
Sure, some are just more equal than others. OneBro May 2018 #42
100 Good Reasons to be a Republican MountCleaners May 2018 #21
Yeah, agree with all 100 Dalida May 2018 #166
I doubt it. OneBro May 2018 #34
would they be horrified at our Siding with ENgland during WW2 and everything else after ? JI7 May 2018 #40
Nice false equivalence there! GoCubsGo May 2018 #59
they are figureheads and mostly and have no political power. JI7 May 2018 #66
All the more reason this does not deserve this amount of attention. GoCubsGo May 2018 #70
they would be disappointing most of the British people and others around the world if they didn't JI7 May 2018 #73
They are free to show it to their own people. GoCubsGo May 2018 #152
Their own people wanted to watch on tv JI7 May 2018 #197
I don't think they would really care if Americans enjoyed a royal wedding. Really, I don't. EffieBlack May 2018 #118
I don't think they'd appreciate the saturation coverage of it in their media. GoCubsGo May 2018 #151
Well, I don't appreciate that they owned slaves and wrote slavery into the Constitution, so you know EffieBlack May 2018 #157
The British Royal Family's hands aren't exactly clean in that regard, either. GoCubsGo May 2018 #162
Whatever EffieBlack May 2018 #164
This American, a few of whose ancestors arrived before 1776, loved it. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2018 #156
That "black clergyman" is the Presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church here in the U.S. BumRushDaShow May 2018 #194
Yes, I know who he is. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2018 #196
Okay then methinks he deserves his title BumRushDaShow May 2018 #198
Just trying to save space typing on a tablet. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2018 #200
Understood. Been there done that & PITA. BumRushDaShow May 2018 #202
Definitely against the principles of our founders. GulfCoast66 May 2018 #148
+100. Crunchy Frog May 2018 #211
:-) EffieBlack May 2018 #247
This is either intentionally, or unintentionally, the funniest thing I've read on DU today. NBachers May 2018 #188
Awwww!!! Bless your heart! GoCubsGo May 2018 #192
Be appalled then, it's good exercise. MicaelS May 2018 #238
My girlfriend is a Daughter of the American Revolution. DanTex May 2018 #199
I'm happy for them, as well. GoCubsGo May 2018 #258
I find what's going on in this country to be infinitely more disgusting Crunchy Frog May 2018 #210
I think it's infinitely more disgusting, as well. GoCubsGo May 2018 #256
A black Woman marrying into royalty wonkwest May 2018 #276
From a country that instituted slavery here BumRushDaShow May 2018 #10
Absolutely. kwassa May 2018 #14
that's certainly foremost in the minds of many onlookers bigtree May 2018 #41
IMHO BumRushDaShow May 2018 #68
lol bigtree May 2018 #85
It's fun to see black folk this excited about the royal wedding EffieBlack May 2018 #165
And those assholes ended slavery long before we did.. Docreed2003 May 2018 #124
Yup. BumRushDaShow May 2018 #126
"Race?" You mean the Mediterranean-looking woman on the prince's arm? misanthrope May 2018 #218
Her mulatto self BumRushDaShow May 2018 #220
Mr. Plessy's case was not happenstance misanthrope May 2018 #223
muslim-looking, latino-looking folks bigtree May 2018 #228
Stop what? misanthrope May 2018 #261
your offensive point that there was some kind of privilege in the lady's 'Mediterranean' skin' bigtree May 2018 #266
And you just made my point BumRushDaShow May 2018 #241
Yep, Imitation of Life by Douglas Sirk was one of the most notable misanthrope May 2018 #259
What you bring up is another subject BumRushDaShow May 2018 #262
my mother was an albino black woman bigtree May 2018 #221
And there you have it BumRushDaShow May 2018 #222
My grandmother looked as white as Queen Elizabeth EffieBlack May 2018 #252
Exactly. BumRushDaShow May 2018 #254
It's an area that I wasn't even aware of a few years ago Blue_Adept May 2018 #224
She might be able to do that if she made a choice to "pass" - but she's too brown to have been EffieBlack May 2018 #251
Welcome to the club. IluvPitties May 2018 #11
So I take it you never go outside and enjoy nature onenote May 2018 #141
Meanspirited a little? PoindexterOglethorpe May 2018 #13
If you say so. I'd just call it being a serious person not interested in bright shiny objects Atticus May 2018 #23
Oh please. Meanspirited fits. Blue_Adept May 2018 #36
But you're up at this hour? PoindexterOglethorpe May 2018 #38
Once more, I have not posted any "mean or snarky" complaint ABOUT THE WEDDING: my sole complaint Atticus May 2018 #75
Oh, dear! I'm trying to recall all the many channels there are, PoindexterOglethorpe May 2018 #88
Yeah, cartoons. Is that lame or what? We're done. I'm a reality fan. nt Atticus May 2018 #96
Bulletin:tv isn't the only source of reality onenote May 2018 #147
You could always watch "The Crown" on Netflix. Crunchy Frog May 2018 #213
Go back to sleep. kwassa May 2018 #17
It's disgusting MountCleaners May 2018 #18
Beautifully stated. IluvPitties May 2018 #20
Hey, some people are just taking in some of their heritage! Blue_Adept May 2018 #33
Post removed Post removed May 2018 #43
I've also got significant Native American ancestry Blue_Adept May 2018 #47
Well, to be fair, the native Britons also lost their land ... JustABozoOnThisBus May 2018 #131
Exactly Blue_Adept May 2018 #133
Meghan MArkle's Ancestry is Irish and Black as is the Ancestry of many who love watching JI7 May 2018 #82
People who've done nothing? Docreed2003 May 2018 #160
Meghan had distinguished herself treestar May 2018 #257
You're missing a great moment for the black community wonkwest May 2018 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author betsuni May 2018 #55
That sounds so beautiful! Cha May 2018 #106
It was a shockingly good watch wonkwest May 2018 #240
Watching them leave the chapel in their carriage as the black gospel choir sang Amen was almost too EffieBlack May 2018 #168
What is that song called?! wonkwest May 2018 #239
"she looked so alone during the proceedings" BumRushDaShow May 2018 #242
English pews are definitely a thing wonkwest May 2018 #243
I have been to Westminster Abbey BumRushDaShow May 2018 #249
She looks absolutely joyful in that photo. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2018 #250
They did two songs: "This Little Light of Mine" and "Amen" EffieBlack May 2018 #244
Oh no you dint BumRushDaShow May 2018 #253
Light of mine I get wonkwest May 2018 #273
Another important piece of symbolism EffieBlack May 2018 #282
Y'all crack me up Blue_Adept May 2018 #27
Every news channel is carrying this shit Funtatlaguy May 2018 #30
So? Take a few hours off from the news Blue_Adept May 2018 #39
exactly, as if watching cable news all day is doing something important JI7 May 2018 #45
THAT'S HOW WE RESIST! Blue_Adept May 2018 #50
i seriously think people think complaining about the figurehead royals online JI7 May 2018 #62
Pretty much Blue_Adept May 2018 #67
LOL EffieBlack May 2018 #170
But then how will I know a person somewhere said something?! wonkwest May 2018 #53
I don't have cable. GoCubsGo May 2018 #76
same thing. it's one saturday morning. JI7 May 2018 #78
My complaint,if you bother to read the OP, was the SATURATION coverage. My point is that there Atticus May 2018 #54
Why are you up this early? Go back to sleep. kwassa May 2018 #72
This is not early for people who have work to do. Sorry my lifestyle doesn't Atticus May 2018 #79
Kvetch kvetch. kwassa May 2018 #81
I now lie writhingin the dust---skewered by your rapier wit! nt Atticus May 2018 #97
As well you should be. kwassa May 2018 #132
the Usual News REporting in the US sucks anyways. it's not like it's some good quality shit JI7 May 2018 #86
MSNBC had "Saturation coverage" from 4 a.m. to 9 a.m. when they went back to regular coverage EffieBlack May 2018 #171
Yup. Every time there's some kind of big public event The Velveteen Ocelot May 2018 #181
Just tuned in - the young man playing the cello is wonderful. Pendrench May 2018 #28
Besides, this is the REAL wedding event coming up! Blue_Adept May 2018 #29
The way I see it, it beats hearing about Trump for once. smirkymonkey May 2018 #31
There is that, smirky! Cha May 2018 #108
You have the right to not watch it. Otherwise, quit whining. Trust Buster May 2018 #35
You have the right to not tell me what to do Funtatlaguy May 2018 #46
Lol! whathehell May 2018 #52
Why ruin it for those that like the event ? Trust Buster May 2018 #57
Potato, potatoe Funtatlaguy May 2018 #60
Because it's interfering with their addiction. They can't get their fix. Blue_Adept May 2018 #63
He also has the right to share his opinion here whathehell May 2018 #49
I'll join you. whathehell May 2018 #44
Really ? Doria Ragland is an Elitist ? JI7 May 2018 #51
Well, she did ride to the church in a Rolls and had on an awesome hat ... EffieBlack May 2018 #180
I love all the hats. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2018 #185
Hats? HATS??? You're looking at hats when there's a volcano in Hawaii?? NBachers May 2018 #193
i didnt watch one minute of the OJ trial...but i love this stuff. samnsara May 2018 #56
If it shows anything, it reveals how miserable some people are Hav May 2018 #80
Some royal people are getting married? Who? davekriss May 2018 #84
The Kardashians. kwassa May 2018 #89
I look it as a respite from the trainwreck in Washington called Donald Trump. kentuck May 2018 #90
Virtue successfully signaled Loki Liesmith May 2018 #91
Oh, give it up already. llmart May 2018 #94
The "history" is not too pretty MountCleaners May 2018 #98
Meghan was not born into wealth. and neither were many of those attending JI7 May 2018 #100
+1 betsuni May 2018 #104
But for the British royals, the rich wouldn't give nearly as much to charity. displacedtexan May 2018 #99
yeah, I get it. But damn, can't we celebrate the positive impact this mixed race marriage hlthe2b May 2018 #101
i guess they aren't supposed to enjoy these things because the US has fucked up gun policies JI7 May 2018 #103
If your child was dead because some Nazi in Texas MountCleaners May 2018 #112
the problem is fucked up US Gun Policies. not the FUcking UK and the royal wedding. and Meghan isn't JI7 May 2018 #114
Someone's kid is shot virtually every day onenote May 2018 #138
The mass shooter type of violence MountCleaners May 2018 #145
Sadly, someone's child is killed every day in America. Are you unable to enjoy anything in life EffieBlack May 2018 #172
Yes, I'm probably a bad person MountCleaners May 2018 #176
I know right! Don't be Cha May 2018 #113
So dont watch Kilgore May 2018 #105
But why should anyone be forced to miss "Lockup" and "Dateline" reruns at 5 a.m.? It's not fair EffieBlack May 2018 #173
You made my day!!! Kilgore May 2018 #215
Sometimes its Nice to Have Something Uplifting and Cheerful in the News as a Counterbalance dlk May 2018 #111
This was more than a wedding. It was a message and an affirmation EffieBlack May 2018 #117
That's a really crappy thing to say lunatica May 2018 #121
Duly noted snowybirdie May 2018 #123
Aw. NurseJackie May 2018 #125
you gotta have simple way of thinking to watch 10 seconds of this nonsense beachbum bob May 2018 #127
Not to mention the fact that MountCleaners May 2018 #136
I thought it was a nice diversion. Vinca May 2018 #134
I don't know. You certainly give the impression of "giving a damn." MineralMan May 2018 #135
I tuned in this morning because that's what's on, but I've been ASTOUNDED RandomAccess May 2018 #142
That was exactly how I felt EffieBlack May 2018 #174
Thank you RandomAccess May 2018 #214
You probably saw this, but I wanted to make sure RandomAccess May 2018 #263
Ok. I went fishing this morning. JDC May 2018 #146
Be happy you can bitch all you want about it online so you dont have to watch it nini May 2018 #154
Wow, look at that cloud... fleabiscuit May 2018 #155
I benefit from a respite now and then Rorey May 2018 #158
Yep, glad to state IDGAF! Dalida May 2018 #163
The epitome of class privilege showcasing one of their big events. I shan't be tuning in to see jalan48 May 2018 #175
That's the thing. They could have gone with tradition and let it be just a "M'Lord's and M'Lady EffieBlack May 2018 #183
Sorry, I don't buy into the class privilege crap regardless of race. jalan48 May 2018 #186
Not crazy about royals and their bullshit, but I wish the couple success. dalton99a May 2018 #178
So don't fucking watch it. Paladin May 2018 #182
Nobody is forcing you to watch the "saturation coverage" Blecht May 2018 #187
Good grief. tavernier May 2018 #189
THEN FUCKING IGNORE IT AND DON'T POST ABOUT IT!!!!! nt USALiberal May 2018 #190
Enjoyed watching Cord and Tish's coverage on HBO Bradshaw3 May 2018 #201
Loved it. It was a pleasant change from the non-stop news I'm addicted to. rainin May 2018 #203
I don't watch TV, but Crunchy Frog May 2018 #204
The cost of the wedding?---42.8 million bucks. panader0 May 2018 #206
I'll be watching Celtics vs Cavs later tonight. John Fante May 2018 #207
Exactly. Go Cavs but I won't be watching MaryMagdaline May 2018 #255
You have a point. But 24/7 'Trump' is getting boring. YOHABLO May 2018 #212
Same here... have no use for those privileged hate mongers. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #216
so wait. If the wedding hadn't been covered, the shootings and treason and bribery would have been onenote May 2018 #225
... SidDithers May 2018 #226
A black choir singing for the wedding in a family that embraced slavery. Cute! Doodley May 2018 #229
I didn't know Queen Elizabeth and Prince Phillip had slaves. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2018 #233
One difference being that the slaves for the royal family were in lands under British rule, Doodley May 2018 #235
Pretty rich from the guy who insisted that, when it comes to slavery, "I don't own anything EffieBlack May 2018 #269
interesting JI7 May 2018 #272
Don't worry - there will be more shootings and bribery tomorrow lame54 May 2018 #230
I'm Irish so I don't really give a shit about the Royals. maveric May 2018 #231
Recorded, then watched the whole thing on PBS. northoftheborder May 2018 #232
Can't we all have one day's respite? Hekate May 2018 #234
Wow such an original hot take BannonsLiver May 2018 #236
About the "royal wedding", put me down for "Don't give a damn and resent the 100%. LenaBaby61 May 2018 #237
Simple answer: Turn it off CalMark May 2018 #248
So edgy! EllieBC May 2018 #268
We hear about shootings and treason and bribery every fricken day. Lil Missy May 2018 #271
Seemed like a decadent waste of money. Throck May 2018 #277
You could turn off the TV PJMcK May 2018 #278
Sociologically it was relevant and important. Tom Rinaldo May 2018 #279
1.4 billion dollars in business due to the royal wedding. Economy suddenly not important? betsuni May 2018 #280
didn't we fight a war at some point in our history to cut ourselves from the British Monarchy? Victor_c3 May 2018 #281

Funtatlaguy

(10,862 posts)
15. Ridiculous spectacle
Sat May 19, 2018, 07:56 AM
May 2018

Not worthy of Americans time or attention.
I could care less about the two people. They haven’t done anything wrong.
Hope they are happy.
It’s just that we celebrate the wrong things. Whatever. Trump thinks he’s King and so do his minions. Maybe when Melania leaves him, he can imprison Jared and he can fulfill his dream to marry Ivanka and they can be King and Queen of America.

MountCleaners

(1,148 posts)
32. It's sentimental, mawkish TRASH
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:03 AM
May 2018

I care more about my friend's handfasting this weekend than these people. They can BUY their happiness with their ill-gotten loot that was stolen from half the planet.

bigtree

(85,970 posts)
61. I like weddings
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:12 AM
May 2018

...people in love.

I strive for love. It may well be sentimental, mawkish, but I don't lose anything feeling and expressing love. Too much of what we do excludes love, or puts it aside like it's some frivolity when it's actually the point of what we do as humans.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
150. Why all the emotion and even hostility on this thread?
Sat May 19, 2018, 11:10 AM
May 2018

You and those who feel as you do are calling a wedding trash and worse.

It was actually quite a nice wedding and a huge positive historical marker. And some are all hot and bothered about it?

Deep breath and introspection time? Figure out why? Or maybe just, "Dang, where'd I leave my balance?"

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
159. For sure..
Sat May 19, 2018, 11:31 AM
May 2018

maybe turn the television off? I think we all know how the shooting thing is going and what the results are. We have a tally of dead kids who will never see a wedding now, and alls pretty much laid out about the rag tag worthless shit bag kid that killed them.
Go outside, read a book. Take a nap. Help your neighbor.
Lots to do but crab about some royal wedding. Happens sometimes.
Personally I'm grateful for some news other than the daily rigamaroll.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
184. TY. We all have a Saturday and Sunday in front of us...
Sat May 19, 2018, 12:11 PM
May 2018

generate some happiness for yourselves and others right? Even if it kills you. WE are the chosen people. WE are the Country that brings hope to others. WE will be ok. The 60's lasted a long time for some folks. Don't let 2018 be your 1968. Have a good weekend.

radical noodle

(7,996 posts)
267. Actually, they can't...
Sat May 19, 2018, 10:45 PM
May 2018

one can buy many things with money but happiness is not for sale. All you have to do is look at the long history of royalty and see that most of them have had plenty of problems to deal with, money or not.

I would personally rather watch the wedding (although I didn't) than to see trump and his criminal family for five seconds.

bigtree

(85,970 posts)
69. Imagine if we celebrated and 'covered' love and expressions of love more often
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:16 AM
May 2018

...isn't love, after all, the essence of what we strive for?

It should be.

Blue_Adept

(6,393 posts)
71. It'd get crapped on as fluff and distracting from the important issues of the day
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:17 AM
May 2018

"How can they spend three whole minutes on something positive when the world is falling apart?!"

whathehell

(29,023 posts)
77. Yeah..In fact, Imagine There's No Heaven..It's Easy if You Try..
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:20 AM
May 2018

I'd suggest you leave it to the songwriters, big.

bigtree

(85,970 posts)
93. how shallow of you
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:44 AM
May 2018

...to presume to deny me or anyone else an expression of love.

How utterly pathetic of you to mock me. You must need a hug.

here, while I'm thinking about it...

whathehell

(29,023 posts)
115. Lol. Nice try
Sat May 19, 2018, 09:34 AM
May 2018

but if you hadn't noticed, this is a political site, not The Love Boat, and no one is "presuming" to deny you a thing.

Given that I have actual things to do today, I'm going to bid you "adiu" now, m'kay? Buh bye.








Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
161. This admin and the news cycle
Sat May 19, 2018, 11:33 AM
May 2018

has everyone beyond bitter. Especially on political sites. If only we all had really satisfying, good paying jobs. Life/tv/internet, would be so much easier to walk away from.

whathehell

(29,023 posts)
128. Um, no
Sat May 19, 2018, 10:05 AM
May 2018

Unless you can explain why my interest in a British monarch
would mirror my interest in an American president.

Blue_Adept

(6,393 posts)
129. As you said...
Sat May 19, 2018, 10:06 AM
May 2018

"but if you hadn't noticed, this is a political site, not The Love Boat"

So it shouldn't be here.

MLAA

(17,232 posts)
130. A lot of curmudgeons around this morning.
Sat May 19, 2018, 10:15 AM
May 2018

The world is completely falling apart as we have destroyed our planet, Impotus and the repulsive republicans are/have destroyed democracy and decency. Lack of responsible gun laws is killing children again and again. All this reality doesn’t stop me from taking a few minutes to enjoy something beautiful like the royal wedding.Just like while I stay up on the news I make time for baseball games.

Big🌲 grab a few minutes of joy wherever you find it and blow off those who try and take it away from you. 😍

Cha

(296,679 posts)
102. It most certainly is what I strive for.. I'm with you on this, bigtree..
Sat May 19, 2018, 09:02 AM
May 2018

Shocking I know.

I just got through reading this..

A Definitive History of Prince Harry and Meghan Markle's Royal Relationship


https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/a9664508/prince-harry-meghan-markle-relationship/

I'm mush pie for romance

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex

pandr32

(11,542 posts)
191. The wedding was wonderful
Sat May 19, 2018, 12:31 PM
May 2018

The people lining the streets to wave at the newlyweds made Trump's inauguration crowd size look minuscule and the people in Britain were joyous.
The Duke and Duchess of Sussex were beaming as they rode by in their carriage. It was so incredible to see them out in the open like that with everyone cheering. People have remained and are filling the shops and restaurants celebrating--many came from all over the commonwealth for this fairytale-like event that connects the best of traditions and the People.
Britain is shining today. I hope the tRump family is miserable.

Aloha, Cha. Just so you know we are fine in our area. The eruptions of ash and gas are downwind.

Cha

(296,679 posts)
260. Mahalo for that, pandr!
Sat May 19, 2018, 06:55 PM
May 2018

The description of the wedding and how you are!

When I saw your name I was going to ask. You read my mind. Down wind that's even better. It must be so scary for all the people in Leilani Estates whose homes were destroyed. And, just wondering what's going to happen next?

How are you all faring besides the volcano constantly erupting?

As J K Rowling tweets..



pandr32

(11,542 posts)
264. Such a great contrast between the two pictures
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:15 PM
May 2018

In reality, the crowds at Windsor continued around a corner and down another street.

We are doing fine with our Hawaiian life. A young feral rooster adopted us last November so we called him "Jones" as in Doug Jones. He has grown since (we are giving him high-quality chicken scratch) and acts like he owns the property.
The earthquakes a couple of weeks ago were definitely felt and we had some breakage as things fell to the floor. I took all our breakable valuables and sat them on the floor so they won't fall off high spots if another big one hits. I don't trust it is over yet.

Our air quality is good--unlike south and west of us. Kona stung my eyes during a stop there a few days ago so we were happy to get back to the Hilo area. The swimming pool is clean, too--no ash or contamination

I hope you are doing well.

Aloha, Cha

Cha

(296,679 posts)
265. LOL@your rooster Jones.. We have so many on Kauai..
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:26 PM
May 2018

they're taking over the Island!

I forgot about the earthquakes, too. Now that would have been scary! I remember back during Hurricane Iniki in 1992.. I was going around putting things on the floor so they wouldn't go flying about if it got to that.

You're so lucky your air quality is good and your pool(good for you!) is clean..wow!

Doing pretty good.. Mahalo and Aloha, pandr!

Docreed2003

(16,845 posts)
122. Agreed
Sat May 19, 2018, 09:54 AM
May 2018

We need more love in this world.

I'm perhaps the most cynical person I know and even I am enjoying this.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
153. Neither of those people would ever, EVER
Sat May 19, 2018, 11:13 AM
May 2018

give even the slightest solitary fuck about you or me, so why one Earth are normal people paying attention to this ridiculous nonsense?! We are garbage to them.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
177. Attitudes and feelings we ascribe to others usually
Sat May 19, 2018, 11:57 AM
May 2018

far more accurately reveal our own than anyone else's.

Fwiw, I don't think most Americans catching part or all of the wedding care about this couple themselves more than the good-natured well-wishing most people feel toward those they don't know. And my working assumption, until proven shockingly different, is that they have the same attitude toward us. And that's fine.

bigtree

(85,970 posts)
179. my son presented me with the same conjecture
Sat May 19, 2018, 12:03 PM
May 2018

...I asked him if he were wealthy, if he would regard the affairs of those with a less affluent lifestyle as insignificant, if he should disregard them.

I question the utility of expectations we ascribe to others which we refuse to adhere to ourselves.

GoCubsGo

(32,069 posts)
8. Tens of thousands of people get married every Saturday.
Sat May 19, 2018, 07:51 AM
May 2018

Should we saturate our airwaves with their weddings, as well?

bigtree

(85,970 posts)
12. depends on how many people are interested in seeing their individual weddings.
Sat May 19, 2018, 07:55 AM
May 2018

...I'm guessing they wouldn't get the ratings.

GoCubsGo

(32,069 posts)
22. It's sad that this is what this country has come to.
Sat May 19, 2018, 07:59 AM
May 2018

TV ratings. Last one out of America, please turn off the lights.

GoCubsGo

(32,069 posts)
149. Imagine th ratings one of them would get if they showed their regular programming
Sat May 19, 2018, 11:03 AM
May 2018

instead of the literally exact same crap everyone else is showing.

I wonder if all y'all would feel the same way if this was Tiffany Trump's wedding, and not some foreign royalty.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
209. Television networks showing a heavily publicized event
Sat May 19, 2018, 01:49 PM
May 2018

in the interest of making money. SHOCKING.

What would the founding fathers think?!

whathehell

(29,023 posts)
95. I'd guess the programmers overestimated the market
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:49 AM
May 2018

This is the U.S. not the UK, and I'm betting even a lot of Brits have had enough at this point.

CelticWinter

(1,399 posts)
208. I watched it and loved it, gave me
Sat May 19, 2018, 01:48 PM
May 2018

a few hours of not thinking of the trailer trash in the WH, all the criminal shit he has done and all the other bull we are going through. A few hours of WOWs, now I am refreshed and ready to tackle business at hand. Although the Royals got the better end of the deal, they got Meghan and we are still stuck with tRump ughhhhhh

misanthrope

(7,408 posts)
217. Yeah, privilege will do that for you.
Sat May 19, 2018, 03:11 PM
May 2018

Plenty of weddings around the world, some in the towns where we live.

bigtree

(85,970 posts)
219. I think we should give their 'privilege' the same regard we would want them to give
Sat May 19, 2018, 03:19 PM
May 2018

...to less affluent couples.

Besides, you can't have watched those two and not seen the love between them. It's that commonality with all unions around the world, as you mention, that allows some of us to relate to their experience without cynicism.

KT2000

(20,563 posts)
227. from what I saw
Sat May 19, 2018, 04:03 PM
May 2018

it was a very sweet wedding. It seemed like they were supporting each other in what must have been a very nervous experience. Looks like love to me. We need more of it - especially in the US.

Also - at this point in time, I don't think Americans are in a position to look down on England and how they do things.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
3. This has been planned for months..
Sat May 19, 2018, 07:47 AM
May 2018

Turn off the tv. Go take a walk.

Death and misery will be back in the news before you know it.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,530 posts)
4. I am enjoying the brief respite of watching a happy event.
Sat May 19, 2018, 07:48 AM
May 2018

We can resume our usual programming in an hour or so.

GoCubsGo

(32,069 posts)
5. All the people who died fighting the Revolution would be horrified.
Sat May 19, 2018, 07:50 AM
May 2018

I don't think this is what our Founding Fathers envisioned when they started this country. The whole spectacle is utterly disgusting.

GoCubsGo

(32,069 posts)
16. We'd probably be better off at this point if we actually were.
Sat May 19, 2018, 07:56 AM
May 2018

But. since we aren't, and since we are in the biggest crisis our country has faced since the Civil War...

RKP5637

(67,080 posts)
58. Many Americans can't seem to grasp the US is flying apart under tRump, their rights being destroyed
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:11 AM
May 2018

now and into the far future. And that is just the short list.

RKP5637

(67,080 posts)
143. Hopefully they are catching on. I just can't believe so many have fallen for the BS they sling.
Sat May 19, 2018, 10:47 AM
May 2018

What is going to happen when Sinclair Broadcasting starts pumping out the BS on a zillion sources across the US. It's like Joseph Goebbels is back from Germany WWII

MountCleaners

(1,148 posts)
26. The fawning wall-to-wall coverage
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:01 AM
May 2018

And worship of people who were born into a certain family, and the elistist ass-kissing are on every damn channel IN A REPUBLIC!

Sentimentality and emotionalism is anti-Enlightenment. It's why we have Trump as President, and why evangelicals think "God" appointed him to be president.

 

Dalida

(26 posts)
169. Yeah but any American who fawns over this family makes me want to hurl
Sat May 19, 2018, 11:40 AM
May 2018

And I think that was the point of the poster you replied to...

Funtatlaguy

(10,862 posts)
9. Right on.
Sat May 19, 2018, 07:52 AM
May 2018

It’s against everything we supposedly stand for as Americans.
Nobody is royal or regal.
We are all created equal
Screw the British and their yellow teeth and depressed sense of humor.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,530 posts)
19. FFS, this is happening in England.
Sat May 19, 2018, 07:58 AM
May 2018

Which, btw, is now our greatest ally, or was until Trump started pissing in the punch bowl. They can put on their shows however they like. I thought it was a lovely wedding.

Funtatlaguy

(10,862 posts)
24. Really, it is. ..?????? Guh, huh, well, gollleeeeee
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:01 AM
May 2018

That’s different.
I plum shore thought it was a happenin in tuscaloser Alabama.

MountCleaners

(1,148 posts)
37. Yes, every time we want to bomb a country
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:04 AM
May 2018

Those former imperialists are there to cheer on imperialism! It's in their blood.

OneBro

(1,159 posts)
34. I doubt it.
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:03 AM
May 2018

They’d be more horrified by Trump and the Republican led Congress and would likely smile at the current British “monarchy.” I do agree, though, that some of our founding fathers would be thoroughly outraged that Markle has a black mom.

GoCubsGo

(32,069 posts)
59. Nice false equivalence there!
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:12 AM
May 2018

Yeah, world wars and weddings of members of a monarchy are the all the same. Sure.

JI7

(89,233 posts)
73. they would be disappointing most of the British people and others around the world if they didn't
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:19 AM
May 2018

show it.

GoCubsGo

(32,069 posts)
152. They are free to show it to their own people.
Sat May 19, 2018, 11:12 AM
May 2018

They could have streamed it online for the rest of the world who is interested.

GoCubsGo

(32,069 posts)
151. I don't think they'd appreciate the saturation coverage of it in their media.
Sat May 19, 2018, 11:10 AM
May 2018

I think they'd be appalled at the obsession may Americans have with the British monarchy.

Nobody is saying Americans can't enjoy it. We are saying that this event does not warrant the obsessive, wall-to-wall coverage it has been getting at the expense of everything else.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
157. Well, I don't appreciate that they owned slaves and wrote slavery into the Constitution, so you know
Sat May 19, 2018, 11:29 AM
May 2018

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,530 posts)
156. This American, a few of whose ancestors arrived before 1776, loved it.
Sat May 19, 2018, 11:25 AM
May 2018

I loved it because I enjoy the chance to witness a happy event in the middle of all the wretchedness and despair and misery and death and trumpitude that surrounds us all the goddamn time. I especially enjoyed seeing a black clergyman give a wonderful, warmhearted sermon in the middle of a stuffy old C of E ceremony (which actually seems to have been updated a bit from what was used in my own wedding in the Episcopal church 40 years ago), and to hear a black gospel choir as well as the lovely voices of the little choirboys singing Thomas Tallis' gorgeous "If Ye Love Me" (about 1550). The British royal family are probably the whitest people in the world, and it was excellent to see them welcome a young woman of color. She might do a lot to enliven that bunch.

Yes, they are wealthy and privileged. I don't care. I loved the whole thing and I hope they live happily ever after.

Now we can return to our regular programming.

BumRushDaShow

(128,258 posts)
194. That "black clergyman" is the Presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church here in the U.S.
Sat May 19, 2018, 12:50 PM
May 2018

and the Church of England is our (we Episcopalians) "mother church".

The Most Rev. Curry evoked the spirit of Rev. Absolom Jones -



who founded Episcopal/Anglican worship for African Americans here in Philadelphia -



with Rev. Richard Allen (who founded the African-Methodist-Episcopal church) -

BumRushDaShow

(128,258 posts)
198. Okay then methinks he deserves his title
Sat May 19, 2018, 12:58 PM
May 2018


(especially because many here on DU think he is some random "black gospel minister" or some such term)

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
148. Definitely against the principles of our founders.
Sat May 19, 2018, 11:03 AM
May 2018

I mean, a man of high standing and position marrying a person of color.

You are correct. They would be horrified.

NBachers

(17,063 posts)
188. This is either intentionally, or unintentionally, the funniest thing I've read on DU today.
Sat May 19, 2018, 12:21 PM
May 2018

You are being sarcastic in your over-the-top outrage, aren't you?

Everyone Who Likes This Wedding Is Being Unpatriotic And Disloyal To The USA And Our Founding Fathers!!L1!

GoCubsGo

(32,069 posts)
192. Awwww!!! Bless your heart!
Sat May 19, 2018, 12:33 PM
May 2018

No. I'm just appalled at the obsession this country has with the British royalty, especially when this country was founded, in large part, to get away from them. You are free to enjoy the damn wedding. I really don't give a shit. The wedding of the 6th in line to the British throne does not deserve wall-to-wall coverage in the United States. I honestly do not understand why some Americans are so fixated on these people, or why our media think the rest of us should be.

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
238. Be appalled then, it's good exercise.
Sat May 19, 2018, 04:37 PM
May 2018

The UK is our closest ally, and from whose culture America was birthed. The UK is doing just fine, they have a better and more just culture, more inclusiveness, and sure have a better Social Welfare system than we do. All that, and still maintain the Royal Family. Beam, meet Mote.

As to why we like it? It's love, and we all hope for that.

What else would be on TV on a Saturday morning? Too early for sports, and we can't have real cartoons like the Classic Looney Tunes, Merrie Melodies and Tom and Jerry, because the PTA and other curmudgeons have labeled them as too violent, or racist or sexist, or some other BS.

It's like a lot of things. If you don't like, don't watch it.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
199. My girlfriend is a Daughter of the American Revolution.
Sat May 19, 2018, 01:03 PM
May 2018

She's happy for Harry and Meghan and loved Meghan's dress. So there's that.

GoCubsGo

(32,069 posts)
258. I'm happy for them, as well.
Sat May 19, 2018, 06:39 PM
May 2018

I loved the dress, too. I just don't think that the wedding of royalty from another county rises to the level of media attention it is being given here.

Crunchy Frog

(26,574 posts)
210. I find what's going on in this country to be infinitely more disgusting
Sat May 19, 2018, 01:55 PM
May 2018

than anything going on in the UK. I like to think our Founding Fathers would feel the same way.

A British royal wedding, and the Trump crime family squatting in the White House. Not even remotely comparable on the horror scale.

Most likely the greatest source of horror would have been the whole race mixing thing, but I'd hope that most modern DU types would be past having issues over that sort of thing.

GoCubsGo

(32,069 posts)
256. I think it's infinitely more disgusting, as well.
Sat May 19, 2018, 06:28 PM
May 2018

Which is why I wish our press/media would have put the kind of time they put into covering this Hallmark Channel event into covering the squatters in the White House and the rest of their crime syndicate.

 

wonkwest

(463 posts)
276. A black Woman marrying into royalty
Sun May 20, 2018, 06:25 AM
May 2018

I’d guess our founders wouldn’t quite catch that one.

I’m fine ^^

BumRushDaShow

(128,258 posts)
10. From a country that instituted slavery here
Sat May 19, 2018, 07:52 AM
May 2018

the imagery and overlay of the acceptance of "race" (and race-mixing) is significant.

bigtree

(85,970 posts)
41. that's certainly foremost in the minds of many onlookers
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:06 AM
May 2018

...not something earth-shattering, but for those whose lives have been a progression from days when 'race-mixing' wasn't as prevalent or accepted as it is today, I'm sure there's a fascination (that I share) watching this relic of an empire brook this breach of royal tradition.

BumRushDaShow

(128,258 posts)
68. IMHO
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:16 AM
May 2018

the Windsors had to bolster the genes in that family so they wouldn't die out (one of the reasons for Diana, who added height).

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
165. It's fun to see black folk this excited about the royal wedding
Sat May 19, 2018, 11:38 AM
May 2018

We're so used to not really being a part of things, even things we think are fun and interesting - it's a lot of fun to feel a part of this.

BumRushDaShow

(128,258 posts)
126. Yup.
Sat May 19, 2018, 10:02 AM
May 2018

And at least Elizabeth made the first move to dismantle most of the rest of their empire. Sadly it left those countries a basket case but.... baby steps.

misanthrope

(7,408 posts)
218. "Race?" You mean the Mediterranean-looking woman on the prince's arm?
Sat May 19, 2018, 03:16 PM
May 2018

The one who could drink from the "white" fountain in 1954 Montgomery, Alabama and no one would bat an eye? Didn't she grow up behind the walls of secluded privilege as well?

BumRushDaShow

(128,258 posts)
220. Her mulatto self
Sat May 19, 2018, 03:21 PM
May 2018

would have been at the back of the bus and god forbid her mom!



Just ask Mr. Homer Plessy!!!



His case was settled 122 years ago yesterday where his octoroon self was not enough to sit in a white train car.

misanthrope

(7,408 posts)
223. Mr. Plessy's case was not happenstance
Sat May 19, 2018, 03:47 PM
May 2018

It was specifically caused and he was chosen for a reason, mainly because he could "pass" and the public ramifications thereof. Plessy was easily able to ride "whites only" streetcars but attention was purposefully drawn to him for this case, to the point the rail line was notified days in advance of the intentions.

You put Meghan Markle in any crowd of locals from Valencia to Beirut and she would blend in easily.

Jazz drummer Art Blakey used to sidestep Jim Crow lodging laws by donning foreign garb and using his Muslim name, Abdullah Ibn Buhaina. He had a far darker complexion and more truly African appearance than Markle.

But my perspective is born from a lifetime of listening to stories from African-American friends and tantamount family relay their experiences of life in the Deep South. After hearing and witnessing what they've endured, Markle's trials seem to pale in comparison.

That said, my perspective is just one shaped by my time and place. It's subject to those inherent biases.

https://www.vogue.com/article/meghan-markle-biracial-identity-politics-personal-essay

https://www.thelily.com/meghan-markle-and-the-problem-with-policing-the-identity-of-mixed-race-people/

bigtree

(85,970 posts)
228. muslim-looking, latino-looking folks
Sat May 19, 2018, 04:05 PM
May 2018

...are getting a great deal of harassment these days for their slightly darker than white skin, misidentified and stereotyped with harassment, discrimination, and violence.

You should stop this.

misanthrope

(7,408 posts)
261. Stop what?
Sat May 19, 2018, 06:56 PM
May 2018

Talking about how silly and counterproductive our fascination with complexion and ethnicity is? About how we've built elaborate sociological and cultural structures around something with little scientific validity at its base?

My wife is third generation Lebanese-American. I'm familiar with prejudices against those who appear Arabic, how and when they do and don't appear.

I'm also familiar with her family's asinine prejudice against Jews, their more intense dislike of the Israeli state and their even worse bigotry against African-Americans incurred by their "Old World meets Old South" family dynamic.

My wife's grandfather came through Ellis Island about 100 years ago as a lone boy, a note pinned to his chest. He made it to the Deep South where distant relatives had settled.

Why were they so far away from their entry point into the U.S.? It was a smart decision, I guess.

In NYC, they would have been in a city then divided into micro communities of ethnicities: Jewish neighborhoods, Italian neighborhoods, Irish neighborhoods, etc. It might have hampered their ability to make headway in society, maybe not, but who knows.

In the Deep South, the only thing that mattered is they weren't African-American. They automatically had a leg up on about 40 percent of the people in their town just by dint of their complexion and nose shape. They were on the lucky side of the only line that mattered: they drank from the white fountain.

bigtree

(85,970 posts)
266. your offensive point that there was some kind of privilege in the lady's 'Mediterranean' skin'
Sat May 19, 2018, 09:45 PM
May 2018

...and you give these second-hand accounts about how gradation of color allow this woman some insulation from racism to the degree where her race is irrelevant to you, to the point where you portray her as privileged.

You don't have a clue what you're talking about. You haven't experienced the racism first hand and it shows in your arguments. You have provided weak and contradictory justifications for your offensive premise and are compounding your original slur.

BumRushDaShow

(128,258 posts)
241. And you just made my point
Sat May 19, 2018, 05:01 PM
May 2018

that once a light-skinned black is "outed", then that is the end of any "privilege".

I and others have had relatives who "passed for white" and "disappeared". But for those who did so, there was always that fear of being "discovered". Of course with DNA testing being a "thing", many are finding out what the heck apparently happened when you had that much "passing".

I think the issue of biracial children in general is whether they chose to identify with neither side and just "be biracial" or embrace one or the other culture. But the fact is in America, the white supremacist power structure will not allow someone like her to be "white" despite the fact that she might look close to being "white".

I remember years and years ago watching a movie about that (there were several done over the years) on one of the old independent stations that used to show '50s & '60s tv show reruns and old movies. I wish I could remember the name but it may have been this one - "Imitation of Life"

misanthrope

(7,408 posts)
259. Yep, Imitation of Life by Douglas Sirk was one of the most notable
Sat May 19, 2018, 06:43 PM
May 2018

The heart of what we're discussing is self-identification. Homer Plessy had that option among strangers. So does Meghan Markle. Questlove or Lauryn Hill do not.

But as you note, there was far more danger in Plessy being "outed." Were he to climb aboard a "whites only" car and no one there knew him, then there was no consequence. If he bumped into someone who knew him or his background, then it could get dangerous.

However, if Plessy were to climb out of a car, say in 1920 Atlanta and sip from a "whites only" fountain, no one who glanced at him would think twice about it. If Louis Armstrong tried it, there would be hell to pay.

If Ms. Markle goes into an upscale shop, she's going to be treated differently my next door neighbor. If the clerk knew of Markle's fame and celebrity status, that treatment gets elevated.

The thing that is so tiresome about America's HUGE and inescapable deal with race is that it is essentially a human construct. Looking solely at genetics in scientific terms, divorced from the subjective aspects and the history makes it all look like the most ridiculous waste of human energy and emotion.

It's absolutely insane.

But we've done so. We built the walls and now we have to deal with fallout.

BumRushDaShow

(128,258 posts)
262. What you bring up is another subject
Sat May 19, 2018, 07:26 PM
May 2018

and that is skin "hue" that gets layered on top of race. And it is an issue within many communities of color. I believe they term it "colorism".

But it is a fluid dynamic, not unlike the adage - "If you're white you're alright, if your yellow, you're mellow, if you're black, then step back" and so you also have certain lighter "races" who were given "honorary white" status (that could be pulled at any time on a whim). Spike Lee touched on the topic in his movie "School Daze" (that is 30 years old this year... yikes)!

So from day to day, circumstance to circumstance, one might not know where you really stand.

bigtree

(85,970 posts)
221. my mother was an albino black woman
Sat May 19, 2018, 03:29 PM
May 2018

...although my mother was born with skin that was indistinguishable from most white Americans (and with beautiful blond hair and hazel eyes as a compliment), she was still considered and designated on her birth record as 'Negro' and was not allowed to advantage herself of any of the non-black medical facilities. She was a graduate from the the all-black Garnet High School, which closed in 1955 due to integration.

After graduating Garnet High School, she became a supervisor at the West Virginia Industrial Home for Colored Girls in Huntington, W.Va..



Out of your depth here.

BumRushDaShow

(128,258 posts)
222. And there you have it
Sat May 19, 2018, 03:44 PM
May 2018

My father was black literally looked "white" with dark brown slicked-back hair. But don't ever get up in his face and call him otherwise and he never tried to use it to his advantage (and couldn't once they saw the "negro" or "colored" on his records).

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
252. My grandmother looked as white as Queen Elizabeth
Sat May 19, 2018, 06:03 PM
May 2018

it didn't matter. She was colored. A negro (lowercase).

Skin tone didn't matter.

Blue_Adept

(6,393 posts)
224. It's an area that I wasn't even aware of a few years ago
Sat May 19, 2018, 03:52 PM
May 2018

Two things ended up bringing the albino aspect to my attention, both through "entertainment" media, where the recent Black Lightning series features one and the really incredible comic series Incognegro, which has a second series running now about a murder in 1920's harlem involving a few albino characters. The comic series delves into the period really well with the social/racial issues.

https://www.comixology.com/Incognegro/comics-series/111874

https://www.comixology.com/Incognegro-Renaissance/comics-series/111206

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
251. She might be able to do that if she made a choice to "pass" - but she's too brown to have been
Sat May 19, 2018, 06:01 PM
May 2018

able to pull it off.

And the one-drop rule would have taken care of that, anyway.

onenote

(42,501 posts)
141. So I take it you never go outside and enjoy nature
Sat May 19, 2018, 10:37 AM
May 2018

Or go to a movie or do anything else that is a distraction from reality

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
23. If you say so. I'd just call it being a serious person not interested in bright shiny objects
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:00 AM
May 2018

while the barbarians are at the gates. But, hey---"enjoy!"

Blue_Adept

(6,393 posts)
36. Oh please. Meanspirited fits.
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:04 AM
May 2018

Unless you're demanding that people be 100% on focus with the barbarians at the gate every minute of the day. If so, then you've already lost in your cause because that's not how people are.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,809 posts)
38. But you're up at this hour?
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:05 AM
May 2018

I'm guessing your TV doesn't have an off switch, although you could unplug it.

I don't actually own a TV, but thanks to the wonder and joy of the internet I'm able to watch the wedding. I'm watching on the BBC, which probably has less dumb commentary than American networks.

Anyway, I'm sort of amazed at how many people feel compelled to post something mean or snarky about the wedding. If you're not interested, then why bother?

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
75. Once more, I have not posted any "mean or snarky" complaint ABOUT THE WEDDING: my sole complaint
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:19 AM
May 2018

was with the fact that there were NO alternatives. Whatever.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,809 posts)
88. Oh, dear! I'm trying to recall all the many channels there are,
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:35 AM
May 2018

but are you telling me that every single channel, including the cartoon one and all the sports channels and the shopping channels were all covering the Royal wedding? Wow. I guess having an off button would be helpful.

onenote

(42,501 posts)
147. Bulletin:tv isn't the only source of reality
Sat May 19, 2018, 10:59 AM
May 2018

It sounds like you spend all your time watching news channels — channels that are notoriously repetitious and duplicative. What breaking news do you think you’ve been denied access to this morning — news that you must have this morning as opposed to this afternoon? Have you read every newspaper article, opinion piece, blog post about the issues that interest you? Have you studied every legislative initiative that this administration want to foist on us? Again, reality exists outside of the reeves

MountCleaners

(1,148 posts)
18. It's disgusting
Sat May 19, 2018, 07:57 AM
May 2018

...that people would take a LOT of time out of mourning dead kids to celebrate elitism and the notion that one class of people is fit to rule.

Sentimentality over people who've done NOTHING on their own to distinguish themselves, and who still insult their former colonies by visiting them, does NOT befit citizens of a republic.

If you love your country, please read the history of "republicanism" as a philosophy. Sentimentalism is illogical, irrational, and it's also a way of keeping women "traditional" and submissive.

Blue_Adept

(6,393 posts)
33. Hey, some people are just taking in some of their heritage!
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:03 AM
May 2018

Lots of us are from there. Can we not enjoy something of where we came from before we arrived here?

Response to Blue_Adept (Reply #33)

Blue_Adept

(6,393 posts)
47. I've also got significant Native American ancestry
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:08 AM
May 2018

who obviously lost their land to the English and others.

Good to know who is able to be interested in their ancestry and who isn't.

Very telling.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,314 posts)
131. Well, to be fair, the native Britons also lost their land ...
Sat May 19, 2018, 10:16 AM
May 2018

... to the invading Angles and Saxons, who lost much of it to Vikings.

And then the Anglo-Saxon/Viking mix lost the land to the Normans.

Ancestry is complicated.

Blue_Adept

(6,393 posts)
133. Exactly
Sat May 19, 2018, 10:19 AM
May 2018

Which is why, though my white privilege, I don't truly lay any claim on any of it.

I have little interest in it and have always been that way. I've done no real research on my ancestry beyond learning a bit about where my grandparents came from because my parents told me. I only knew one of the four because they had been gone by the time I came of age to actually be interested.

I know that I have privilege because of my ancestry but I've never viewed said ancestry itself as being a defining piece. I have little interest in my Scottish history or Native American ancestry among all the others. Apparently my mother's side of the family got around the world a lot and there's a big mix in there.

I don't begrudge anyone that gets seriously into it (my aunt is, almost to an obsessive level) but it plays zero factor into my daily life with raising my kids, getting my work done, and trying to enjoy myself a little bit amid all the chaos.

JI7

(89,233 posts)
82. Meghan MArkle's Ancestry is Irish and Black as is the Ancestry of many who love watching
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:28 AM
May 2018

this stuff .

British Citizens include people from nations that were colonies.

Docreed2003

(16,845 posts)
160. People who've done nothing?
Sat May 19, 2018, 11:31 AM
May 2018

What about what Prince Harry has done for wounded veterans and his own service in Afghanistan? Is that nothing?

 

wonkwest

(463 posts)
25. You're missing a great moment for the black community
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:01 AM
May 2018

I was about where you were. Then Michael Curry gave the sermon and a black gospel choir sang "Stand By Me" and forget it. I could not care less about these things, but her community was ultra present. And Prince Charles walking her mother out. And a talented black cellist.

These are the whitest people on planet Earth.

They aren't anymore. This is so good.

Response to wonkwest (Reply #25)

Cha

(296,679 posts)
106. That sounds so beautiful!
Sat May 19, 2018, 09:07 AM
May 2018

I don't have a tv so am enjoying reading those who aren't "disgusted" by it.

Mahalo, wonkwest

 

wonkwest

(463 posts)
240. It was a shockingly good watch
Sat May 19, 2018, 04:47 PM
May 2018

I'm not a celebrity watcher, but seeing the black community folded into these very, very white traditions was so much fun. As Effie said, the rendition of "Amen" was fantastic. I wish I'd been recording it.

Hope the volcano isn't harassing you!

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
168. Watching them leave the chapel in their carriage as the black gospel choir sang Amen was almost too
Sat May 19, 2018, 11:40 AM
May 2018

much for me to take.

This is a game changer.

 

wonkwest

(463 posts)
239. What is that song called?!
Sat May 19, 2018, 04:43 PM
May 2018

It was so gorgeous. Is it just "Amen"? I was trying to explain it to the mister, and we were both befuddled. "They were singing the Amen song!"

I just happened to be up at 4 AM. Flipped it on - might as well. But that was the blackest royal wedding in history. And I lived for every second of it. With her complexion, I was worried they'd maybe white-wash or attempt to. Nope. They leaned in hard to her heritage, and it was amazing.

Her poor mom, though! I know the parents are divorced, but she looked so alone during the proceedings. When Charles took her arm, I was like, finally. How proud must that one woman be though.

BumRushDaShow

(128,258 posts)
242. "she looked so alone during the proceedings"
Sat May 19, 2018, 05:21 PM
May 2018

I didn't sense that at all (as a black woman myself). We are used to being "alone" (she was divorced 30 years ago). I think she was probably a bit in shock regarding how she got there (metaphorically) and was trying to be staid. I would say it would be a bit overwhelming for most but her focus would be on "her baby".

 

wonkwest

(463 posts)
243. English pews are definitely a thing
Sat May 19, 2018, 05:29 PM
May 2018

I've actually been in that chapel and many other cathedrals throughout Europe, and they do have that "isolated" seating. So I understood it. I just wanted someone to hang out with her, lol. Every time the camera panned over, I was like, "Aww!"

But she exuded joy. And I was so happy she saw her own heritage given such a prominent place. In a very white establishment that might have been predilected to downplay her, Meghan and Harry made sure she and her roots were celebrated.

Best royal wedding ever.

BumRushDaShow

(128,258 posts)
249. I have been to Westminster Abbey
Sat May 19, 2018, 06:00 PM
May 2018

when my parents took us to England in 1970. We didn't get chance to venture out into the countryside to places like this chapel but I know my mother was insistent that we see Westminster Abbey. I am Episcopal and it just so happens that the seating the couple's family and VIPs were in is on the High Altar and is usually designated for the choir (I used to sing on my own church's choir and sat in seating identical to that and about as ornate, complete with the little lamps - my church building was built in the early 1800s).

So at least in that spot, you can put your stuff down on a little table in front of you and I expect that knowing the cameras would be rolling, she just folded her hands and opted to -





We always talk about Drumpf and "dog whistles" and code. Well this was a huge megaphone blast from across the pond.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
244. They did two songs: "This Little Light of Mine" and "Amen"
Sat May 19, 2018, 05:31 PM
May 2018

"Amen" is the common recessional in black churches. It is So beautiful and uplifting.



This Little Light of Mine
This little light of mne
I'm going to let it shine
Oh, this little light of mine
I'm going to let it shine
Hallelujah
This little light of mine
I'm going to let it shine
Let it shine, let it shine, let it shine

Ev'ry where I go
I'm going to let it shine
Oh, ev'ry where I go
I'm going to let it shine
Hallelujah
Ev'ry where I go
I'm going to let it shine
Let it shine, let it shine, let it shine

All in my house
I'm going to let it shine
Oh, all in my house
I'm going to let it shine
Hallelujah
All in my house
I'm going to let it shine
Let it shine, let it shine, let it shine

I'm not going to make it shine
I'm just going to let it shine
I'm not going to make it shine
I'm just going to let it shine
Hallelujah
I'm not going to make it shine
I'm just going to let it shine
Let it shine, let it shine, let it shine

Out in the dark
I'm going to let it shine
Oh, out in the dark
I'm going to let it shine
Hallelujah
Out in the dark
I'm going to let it shine
Let it shine, let it shine, let it shine
 

wonkwest

(463 posts)
273. Light of mine I get
Sun May 20, 2018, 06:13 AM
May 2018

I was unfamiliar with “Amen”

Now that you mention it, with the wedding, I’m like “oh right.” An ex was black and we’d go to church, and that’s where I’d heard that. Recessional. As we were walking out. I never noticed. But it’s so, so pretty.

Black people have the best church music. I can say that because I’m Catholic and bored.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
282. Another important piece of symbolism
Sun May 20, 2018, 10:22 AM
May 2018

“This Little Light of Mine” was one of the iconic inspirational songs of the American civil rights movement. People tend to remember “We Shall Overcome,” but “This Little Light” was right there, too.

I love those two crazy kids.

Blue_Adept

(6,393 posts)
27. Y'all crack me up
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:01 AM
May 2018

You sound just like when people complain about:

Superbowl
World Series
Any major sporting event
Any major movie event

Or, you know, anything that's unrelated to politics.

There's a billion channels and a billion places to get your fix if you need it. The main stories of the day aren't disappearing. They'll be there and they are there right now.

But kvetch away if it makes you feel better since there are likeminded souls here. Most people will just not pay attention to the wedding at all or its coverage and just go about their day.

Blue_Adept

(6,393 posts)
39. So? Take a few hours off from the news
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:05 AM
May 2018

Why is that so hard? If it is that hard and you're having withdrawals, then I'd say THAT is where the problem is.

Blue_Adept

(6,393 posts)
50. THAT'S HOW WE RESIST!
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:09 AM
May 2018

Watching cable news and complaining online!

And maybe some tweeting if we understand how to use that thing.


JI7

(89,233 posts)
62. i seriously think people think complaining about the figurehead royals online
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:13 AM
May 2018

is being some revolutionary .

the royals these days don't get much coverage. only during the weddings and the births. and even the birth of the recent 3rd child didn't get that much attention.

i wonder if some of these people do anything other than watch cable news all.

Blue_Adept

(6,393 posts)
67. Pretty much
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:15 AM
May 2018

You do get that sense from it because it's something that comes up during every big non-political news event. We see the same every super bowl, world series, etc.

 

wonkwest

(463 posts)
53. But then how will I know a person somewhere said something?!
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:10 AM
May 2018

I never watch cable news, so I always have to interpret what people are on about. "This guy on this show!" Ok. . . And . . .

GoCubsGo

(32,069 posts)
76. I don't have cable.
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:20 AM
May 2018

I get my news from the networks. Every last one of them, including PBS, is covering this asinine dog and pony show.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
54. My complaint,if you bother to read the OP, was the SATURATION coverage. My point is that there
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:10 AM
May 2018

are NOT "plenty of places" to watch the real news: there are NO such places. But, yeah, rewrite it however it suits you.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
79. This is not early for people who have work to do. Sorry my lifestyle doesn't
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:23 AM
May 2018

meet with your approval.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
171. MSNBC had "Saturation coverage" from 4 a.m. to 9 a.m. when they went back to regular coverage
Sat May 19, 2018, 11:43 AM
May 2018

But it was very irresponsible of them to pre-empt "LockUp" and "Dateline" reruns in the wee hours of the morning. Think of all of the important stuff we may have missed!

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,530 posts)
181. Yup. Every time there's some kind of big public event
Sat May 19, 2018, 12:07 PM
May 2018

that gets a lot of TV coverage - the Superbowl, the Olympics, the Oscars, a celebrity wedding/birth/funeral, even the release of a new Apple product, there will be folks who harrumph and grumble about how trivial and meaningless the event is and how superficial and gullible are its watchers, and what the hell is wrong with you people for being such silly sheep for watching this garbage when there are bad things going on all over the world and yet you are watching this crap when you could be righteously complaining on the Internet about all the bad things that you forgot all about???

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
31. The way I see it, it beats hearing about Trump for once.
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:03 AM
May 2018

He's probably insanely jealous that the media isn't focused on him right now. If this wedding distracts media attention from his bullshit, I am all for it.

Cha

(296,679 posts)
108. There is that, smirky!
Sat May 19, 2018, 09:11 AM
May 2018

I don't have a tv but am happy reading those who are enjoying it.

I adore good love stories

Good Morning!

Funtatlaguy

(10,862 posts)
60. Potato, potatoe
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:12 AM
May 2018

Enjoy what you will.
My criticism shouldn’t diminish your fawning over these foreign elites.
Enjoy away.
Have a crumpet or two, my liege.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
180. Well, she did ride to the church in a Rolls and had on an awesome hat ...
Sat May 19, 2018, 12:05 PM
May 2018

And we can only imagine how much that little chain and pendant she was wearing cost.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,530 posts)
185. I love all the hats.
Sat May 19, 2018, 12:12 PM
May 2018

Nobody wears hats any more, and I look stupid in hats so wouldn't wear one anyhow except if I'd been invited to this wedding, but I love seeing other women's hats at these events.

NBachers

(17,063 posts)
193. Hats? HATS??? You're looking at hats when there's a volcano in Hawaii??
Sat May 19, 2018, 12:35 PM
May 2018

Why, why, this is an outrage!!L!11!!

I remember walking to church with my mom while she was wearing these wide stylish Jackie Kennedy hats. I was a kid, and a bit embarrassed that she was doing something that was drawing so much attention to herself. I now realize how tres chic she really was, but at the time, I kind of kept myself a little further away from her.

Good for you on the hats!

Hav

(5,969 posts)
80. If it shows anything, it reveals how miserable some people are
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:25 AM
May 2018

This thread is hilarious though.
But god damn it, this isn't what the founding fathers envisioned when they started this country!!!11

kentuck

(111,037 posts)
90. I look it as a respite from the trainwreck in Washington called Donald Trump.
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:38 AM
May 2018

It must bother him a lot for someone else to get so much coverage. :-

llmart

(15,527 posts)
94. Oh, give it up already.
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:48 AM
May 2018

I, for one, think it's refreshing to see the love, lovely weather, pomp and history rather than sitting around in the US watching people get slaughtered by guns. Letting all that negativity take your life over doesn't help a thing.

Maybe some Americans will see that not everything revolves around what's going on in the United States.

MountCleaners

(1,148 posts)
98. The "history" is not too pretty
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:52 AM
May 2018

Those uniforms and castles and ridiculous wealth and worship of people who were born into a certain family (not to mention to this day according status to people who were born into it) is NOT cute and charming and entertaining. It's ugly, and it's painful to read about if your ancestors were on the wrong side of it.

JI7

(89,233 posts)
100. Meghan was not born into wealth. and neither were many of those attending
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:59 AM
May 2018

many of those attending have family or immigrated themselves from places the british colonized.

the royal family is not what it use to be. they have no actual power. and most of them are actually doing very good things for the country and world.

both william and harry served in the military. they have privilege but they have given more than people like the trumps and kardashians.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
99. But for the British royals, the rich wouldn't give nearly as much to charity.
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:54 AM
May 2018

The royal family members actually work very hard to get people to support children's hospitals, wounded veterans, medical research and services for the needy. I read once that the family raises over 50% of all charitable giving, and if the wealthy don't pony up, they don't get invited to future functions. They also champion businesses by granting royal appointments to butchers, bakers, etc. plus, there's a freaking tourism fortune because of them.

That being said, I'm glad we don't have a monarchy. I just wish we had the charitable giving structure they've created.

hlthe2b

(102,065 posts)
101. yeah, I get it. But damn, can't we celebrate the positive impact this mixed race marriage
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:59 AM
May 2018

will have on that monarchy? Given how far backwards the US has gone since Trump took office, the hatred, the violence, the racism, the misogyny, the homophobia, I look at this as at least ONE positive.

MountCleaners

(1,148 posts)
112. If your child was dead because some Nazi in Texas
Sat May 19, 2018, 09:18 AM
May 2018

shot them at school, you wouldn't find this fawning and WEAK emotionalism and hero-worship of "beautiful" people...i.e. ELITISM cute and charming.

I'm upset, as an empathic human being, about another slaughter and don't appreciate the interruption by all of the networks to remind us that some people are just naturally more important than others.

I can't switch emotional gears like that. What if it were my kids who were shot. Sorry, I'm not so trivial-minded and pampered that I am willing to forget the crisis our country is in so I can worship the beautiful and elite.

JI7

(89,233 posts)
114. the problem is fucked up US Gun Policies. not the FUcking UK and the royal wedding. and Meghan isn't
Sat May 19, 2018, 09:23 AM
May 2018

a privileged born into wealth type. her mother is working class . many of the kids who have been shot and killed were into things that you would consider elitist .

this is like the fucking gun nut right wingers who post pictures of Parkland kids smiling and laughing as an attack on them. as if the problem is them enjoying each other or finding some joy in life rather than the fucked up gun policies.

MountCleaners

(1,148 posts)
145. The mass shooter type of violence
Sat May 19, 2018, 10:50 AM
May 2018

...is personal to some of us, and we do feel triggered and upset when it happens again. I find it difficult to shift gears to ooo and ah about a bunch of filthy rich people and their wedding when I'm upset and afraid because extremist violence keeps happening.

The media should have been more sober and serious in its coverage. I can understand covering it, but the chirpy flippant way they shifted emotional tone was inappropriate. As a nation we should be grieving when another mass shooting happens and pay some respects to the families and classmates who lost loved ones.

This was a terrorist attack, and had a bomb gone off, I'm sure the coverage would have been better considered.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
172. Sadly, someone's child is killed every day in America. Are you unable to enjoy anything in life
Sat May 19, 2018, 11:46 AM
May 2018

on any day because of it?

Or do you only get worked up about kids killed in mass shootings?

MountCleaners

(1,148 posts)
176. Yes, I'm probably a bad person
Sat May 19, 2018, 11:57 AM
May 2018

Excuse me for being human and getting upset and pissing on your royal worship. I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings but yes, school shootings do upset me and how dare you question my sensitivity. It's personal. But because royal weddings don't thrill me, I must somehow be an awful person.

Fine. I won't get upset at mass shootings anymore. I did say it was personal, I'm sorry you had so little regard for my humanity that you don't read my posts.

Cha

(296,679 posts)
113. I know right! Don't be
Sat May 19, 2018, 09:20 AM
May 2018

disgusted by love.. support it. We sure don't have it in power structure of the USA now.

Harry and Meghan are setting examples for the world. We had the Obamas love story and now England has the Duke and Duchess of Sussex.

Kilgore

(1,733 posts)
105. So dont watch
Sat May 19, 2018, 09:04 AM
May 2018

There are about a million other news and entertainment channels out there. Pick another.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
173. But why should anyone be forced to miss "Lockup" and "Dateline" reruns at 5 a.m.? It's not fair
Sat May 19, 2018, 11:46 AM
May 2018
 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
117. This was more than a wedding. It was a message and an affirmation
Sat May 19, 2018, 09:39 AM
May 2018

Sorry you don't see any good in it.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
121. That's a really crappy thing to say
Sat May 19, 2018, 09:42 AM
May 2018

What the hell makes you think every one of us hasn’t visited both stories?

MountCleaners

(1,148 posts)
136. Not to mention the fact that
Sat May 19, 2018, 10:23 AM
May 2018

telling little girls that they can grow up to be princesses is sexist brainwashing.

I love how being a republican - a legitimate political body of thought with a long history - is now a character failure and not, like, rational thought.

MineralMan

(146,242 posts)
135. I don't know. You certainly give the impression of "giving a damn."
Sat May 19, 2018, 10:21 AM
May 2018

You're upset because the coverage of this event has somehow forced you to watch it, I guess. It was all over the TV this morning, as my wife and I watched the news and drank our coffee. I watched a little of it and then read the paper with the coverage on in the background.

I don't care about the British royal family either. Apparently, though, many people were interested in this wedding between a prince of the realm and a bi-racial, American divorcee. It's a bit unusual, really. So, what I noticed was that nobody seemed to care, really, about all that. It was just a wedding. I didn't see any racists out there protesting at all. It's just an event. Americans are interested because there is an American bride.

Now that it's over, we'll return to our regular programming.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
142. I tuned in this morning because that's what's on, but I've been ASTOUNDED
Sat May 19, 2018, 10:45 AM
May 2018

at how impactful this event really is. I didn't expect it.

It's far more than JUST a royal wedding. It has social implications that go far beyond that, with a mixed race American joining the royal family. There was a gospel choir that sang Stand By Me (at a wedding??? and not just any wedding, a British wedding! a British ROYAL Wedding! A Ben E. King song??? Wow.)

And this: Rev. Michael Curry, the presiding bishop of the Episcopal Church in AMERICA gave the sermon and it wasn't like any other sermon, I hear (haven't yet watched it) -- First, he's black. Second, he quoted MLK, Jr. in the sermon. AT A BRITISH ROYAL WEDDING.

I'm not able to properly articulate it, it was something I sensed as well as learned as I watched in the after-ceremony coverage, but THIS IS EARTH SHATTERING stuff and the social implications will be felt for generations to come. It also brings the monarchy firmly into the 21st century.

We all have different attitudes, beliefs and preferences, so it's perfectly okay for you to be all bah humbug about it for yourself. But if you think this is just unnecessary foolishness with no importance or relevance, you're quite wrong.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
174. That was exactly how I felt
Sat May 19, 2018, 11:52 AM
May 2018

I looked forward to the wedding because I think the couple are sweet and I enjoy these kinds of diversions. But I wasn't prepared for the impact of the wedding they put together. This wasn't just a wedding. They were sending a message. It was a powerful and emotional experience for me.

When they rode off in their carriage while the black gospel choir sang "This Little Light of Mine" and "Amen," the staple closing of a black church service, I completely lost it.

And let's not even talk about the image of the black woman in LOCS sitting directly across from the Queen and walking with Prince Charles to go observe their children sign the registry. Damn.

You don't have to be black to get this, but if you ARE black, it's hard to think this is no big deal.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
214. Thank you
Sat May 19, 2018, 02:33 PM
May 2018

It was AMAZING. As you know, I'm not black, but I absolutely exult in the transformational symbolism and imagery and reality and ...

all of it.

Exquisite and profound. And very beautiful and uplifting at a time in our world when we need that desperately.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
263. You probably saw this, but I wanted to make sure
Sat May 19, 2018, 07:54 PM
May 2018

This, which I also think is an excellent comment on the day --


AM Joy w/Joy Reid @amjoyshow
.@jacquereid: I think it was unapologetically black... they thought #MeghanMarkle was going to be upstaged by the pomp & circumstance of the royals... not only did we see what kind of princess she's going to be, we saw Harry & who his mother raised him to be #RoyalWedding #AMJoy


JDC

(10,110 posts)
146. Ok. I went fishing this morning.
Sat May 19, 2018, 10:55 AM
May 2018

All politics and killing all the time makes me angry and bitter. I find I am no less informed for it.

nini

(16,672 posts)
154. Be happy you can bitch all you want about it online so you dont have to watch it
Sat May 19, 2018, 11:15 AM
May 2018

But that means you're wasting time too and not doing something productive about guns laws etc.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
158. I benefit from a respite now and then
Sat May 19, 2018, 11:29 AM
May 2018

I don't resent the coverage, and it's over now, so we can go back to "shootings and treason and bribery".

Also, it doesn't bother me too much to just turn off the television. There was a time when I left it on for background noise, but now I enjoy a quieter life.

 

Dalida

(26 posts)
163. Yep, glad to state IDGAF!
Sat May 19, 2018, 11:35 AM
May 2018

I don't even know any of their names or hardly how they look except for the old bag that is queen, and her son who will apparently croak before ever ascending to the throne. Any time they're on tv I change the channel, and I skip right over any newspaper or online article that features them. I take pride in knowing as little as possible about the whole sorry lot. I can't fathom how anyone can still support monarchy in this day and age.

jalan48

(13,834 posts)
175. The epitome of class privilege showcasing one of their big events. I shan't be tuning in to see
Sat May 19, 2018, 11:56 AM
May 2018

M'Lord's and M'Lady's extravaganza.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
183. That's the thing. They could have gone with tradition and let it be just a "M'Lord's and M'Lady
Sat May 19, 2018, 12:07 PM
May 2018

extravaganza." Or they could have just slipped away to get married in some town magistrate's office.

But, instead, they used their privilege and platform to send a unifying message of joy and meaning and diversity and change.

They rocked it and I'm deeply moved and impressed that they did.

Blecht

(3,803 posts)
187. Nobody is forcing you to watch the "saturation coverage"
Sat May 19, 2018, 12:17 PM
May 2018

It really is OK to leave the TV off and not click on a story in your browser. Nothing bad will happen.

Bradshaw3

(7,483 posts)
201. Enjoyed watching Cord and Tish's coverage on HBO
Sat May 19, 2018, 01:17 PM
May 2018

They gave it the kind of coverage it and our media deserved.

John Fante

(3,479 posts)
207. I'll be watching Celtics vs Cavs later tonight.
Sat May 19, 2018, 01:45 PM
May 2018

2 1/2 hours watching a frivolous event. 2 1/2 hours where I won't be obsessing about Trump.

I hope the founding fathers can forgive me.

onenote

(42,501 posts)
225. so wait. If the wedding hadn't been covered, the shootings and treason and bribery would have been
Sat May 19, 2018, 03:58 PM
May 2018

resolved? Some big development uncovered that has been put in the deep freeze?

Thoughts and prayers.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,530 posts)
233. I didn't know Queen Elizabeth and Prince Phillip had slaves.
Sat May 19, 2018, 04:21 PM
May 2018


Thomas Jefferson did, though.

Britain abolished slavery in 1833; the United States didn't do it until 1863 and it took a civil war to settle the matter. So that's not a thing we in the U.S. should be up on our high horses about.

Doodley

(9,021 posts)
235. One difference being that the slaves for the royal family were in lands under British rule,
Sat May 19, 2018, 04:26 PM
May 2018

or should I say dictatorship?

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
269. Pretty rich from the guy who insisted that, when it comes to slavery, "I don't own anything
Sun May 20, 2018, 12:18 AM
May 2018

anybody did before I was even born .. I have no more reason than you or anyone else to be held responsible for all the bad stuff Americans have done before I was born.”

JI7

(89,233 posts)
272. interesting
Sun May 20, 2018, 01:41 AM
May 2018

and everything becomes more clear about what exactly it is people have an issue with here.

also noticed some be nice to trump supporters shit.

northoftheborder

(7,569 posts)
232. Recorded, then watched the whole thing on PBS.
Sat May 19, 2018, 04:11 PM
May 2018

They had British commentators who are so much more informative than the chatty US coverage on other networks.

Loved it; shed some tears; hope I live long enough to get over the black era of the US today, with a sham of a leader who isn't even ashamed of being DIS-invited to weddings and funerals.

Loved the hats, the clothes, the blending of tradition, the happy couple. That doesn't make me an ungrateful, unpatriotic, selfish person. What a lovely day for Britain and the world.

Some people's above negative comments are sad and depressing.

Hekate

(90,496 posts)
234. Can't we all have one day's respite?
Sat May 19, 2018, 04:24 PM
May 2018

President Swamp Thing and His Cesspool will still be there tomorrow morning.

LenaBaby61

(6,972 posts)
237. About the "royal wedding", put me down for "Don't give a damn and resent the 100%.
Sat May 19, 2018, 04:37 PM
May 2018

For those who wanted to watch the Royal Wedding, and who wanted to get away, get a respite from "bad" news events--fantastic. I'm happy that they enjoyed the Royal Wedding. That for a while, they tuned out the outside world long enough to enjoy all of the pomp and circumstance, the sights and sounds, the family, the guests and what they saw as expressions of love, hope, togetherness etc.

And for those who didn't watch the Royal Wedding, because they weren't really feeling it, or who just plain aren't into the Royal Family, their goings on, the pomp and circumstance of a Royal Wedding/get together (And no, not everyone's a Royal watcher :yowser , good on them too

We have to accept that not everyone feels the same way about the Royals, and not everybody shares the same expressions of love, romance etc. as they or the next person, and those people shouldn't be told that they're wrong for feeling the way they do. Only one friend that I've spoken to as of now watched any Royal Wedding coverage, and she said she was bought to tears over it. Cried during a sermon she said a Bishop gave about love. She said she felt pride over seeing the diversity contained within the ceremony and cried seeing a young Royal groom & his bride seemingly so much in love (She's a very emotional person ). I'm happy that my buddy & her grands spent their Royal Wedding weekend watching together, as she/grands are going through a lot right now, because her 36 year old daughter/their Mom has been battling breast cancer for a year plus, and lately it's been difficult due to the pain she's experiencing and the fact that her daughters a week ago got that YOUR insurance premiums are going up, and her husband had to take a 2nd job). Her daughter wasn't really into the wedding or anything associated with it my friend said (And it's understandable), and chose to sleep through it upstairs while she and grands watched downstairs.






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CalMark

(2 posts)
248. Simple answer: Turn it off
Sat May 19, 2018, 06:00 PM
May 2018

I also don't give a damn. Fortunately, it's easy to ignore if you turn off the TV.

EllieBC

(2,987 posts)
268. So edgy!
Sat May 19, 2018, 11:10 PM
May 2018

So much so I could shave my legs with it.

I always love the I hate the Super Bowl/World Series/Oscars/Any Big Event complaints. We get it. You think you're better for spending all day every day navel gazing and self flagellating. Good for you!

Lil Missy

(17,865 posts)
271. We hear about shootings and treason and bribery every fricken day.
Sun May 20, 2018, 12:56 AM
May 2018

I’d rather watch the wedding for a change.

Throck

(2,520 posts)
277. Seemed like a decadent waste of money.
Sun May 20, 2018, 06:47 AM
May 2018

How much was public money? Could it have been spent better otherwise on functional social programs?

PJMcK

(21,985 posts)
278. You could turn off the TV
Sun May 20, 2018, 07:56 AM
May 2018

We got rid of our cable TV service 4 or 5 years ago. All I've (not) seen about the wedding was online and it was so simple to not click on it.

To be clear, I'm with you in that I don't give a shit about the "royal" family. Or the Trumps, for that matter. Get rid of them all.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,911 posts)
279. Sociologically it was relevant and important.
Sun May 20, 2018, 08:08 AM
May 2018

The British monarchy now is symbolic, so what is symbolizes is the only significance it holds. And a mixed race divorced woman marrying into the Royal Family at the highest level with full State honors and aspects of a multi-cultural ceremony, that matters.

It doesn't hurt that there's a real love story involved as well, but the above is why I gave a damn.

betsuni

(25,351 posts)
280. 1.4 billion dollars in business due to the royal wedding. Economy suddenly not important?
Sun May 20, 2018, 09:35 AM
May 2018

Isn't it nice to see a country (not full of shootings and treason and bribery) benefiting from tourism because of a wedding?

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
281. didn't we fight a war at some point in our history to cut ourselves from the British Monarchy?
Sun May 20, 2018, 09:49 AM
May 2018

I forget when exactly that was, but I think it was in the latter half of the 18th century and some guy name Jorge Washington crossed the street or the Potomac river while he was on his way to attack Fort Sumter after the Japanese bombed and sank the USS Maine. There was something about Fort Ticonderoga, the battle of the Bulge, and the Bay of Tonkin, but I'm not really good with details. Anyways, I do remember from high school history that the CIA invaded the Bay of Pigs in a supporting operation to defeat Al Qaeda at the Alamo.


Seriously though, I don't understand the fascination with the British royal family. We fought our revolution to detach ourselves from them. Why then, nearly 250 years later, are we so fascinated and yearn to be a part of them again?

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