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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGraffiti in Central London about 20 minutes ago. Could not say it better myself.
Saw this on a telephone exchange box at the end of my street.
Short and to the point.
Trump. Despised the world over!
TimeSnowDemos
(476 posts)I've been here for... god... 15 years - here and London - never have I see this much anti-American sentiment in the open...
DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)LisaL
(44,973 posts)There's no real distinction, any more than the average American thinks about individual Yemeni, Iranians, Russians, etc.
America IS Trump to the world, and the world is less concerned than ever about subtlety re: US citizens and their gov.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)The best we could find to represent us.
Soph0571
(9,685 posts)Definitely Trump where I am.... as for the rest of America you are like family - sometimes we don't like what you do but we always like who you are. You all are our younger cousins
TimeSnowDemos
(476 posts)Lived and worked... I worked in a University. I had friends and it was all good, until the US re-elected W. Then people who had been ok to me were actively rude and aggressive to me.
It's nice to think everyone makes this distinction, but... it's not been my experience.
Luckily here in Ireland I'm basically an adopted Irishman, but... I hear a LOT of anti-American stuff from Brits and Irish, and more than ever frankly.
Comments about the endless gun slaughter, the corruption, the poor schools, the healthcare system, etc.
And of course the Germans are VERY openly saying the US is currently not a friend of ally.
It's a giant mess now.
Soph0571
(9,685 posts)Generally it has always been a gentle mocking based on the fact we believe we are superior to America and therefore look down on the culture in a family way - as I said.... younger cousin. A tad irritating but the affection is there. I think that mocking is not as gentle now, and there is very much a sense of disbelief that enough Americans could be so stupid as to vote for such a stupid man. But hell we voted for Brexit..... so moral high ground is somewhat unstable at the moment. Where are you in Ireland? I am originally from Belfast.
Laughing at the Brexit thing. Though it's true enough.
I'm in South Dublin.
OnDoutside
(19,952 posts)TimeSnowDemos
(476 posts)4 Eva.
Seriously though, I love where I live.
OnDoutside
(19,952 posts)TimeSnowDemos
(476 posts)Is pure Cork.
West Cork is nice.
OnDoutside
(19,952 posts)holidays (or go full metal jacket down to deepest Kerry). I really wouldn't consider heading east, it was always Garrettstown/Courtmac/Owenahincha.
TimeSnowDemos
(476 posts)To Caherdaniel for holidays every year. I'll be there in five weeks.
Every time I'm in Kerry I meet as many people from Cork as Kerry.
My wife holidayed a few years in Owenahincha. Never been I don't think.
OnDoutside
(19,952 posts)The currents in Owenhincha are dodgy, great beach though, and Rosscarbery is down the road. Courtmac is great too, especially for Regatta week.
TimeSnowDemos
(476 posts)I've been 10 times at least. My wife went as I child, now she's there with me and our kids. Amazing.
Two weeks on the beach with the kids and the dog.
OnDoutside
(19,952 posts)to Caherdaniel, the weather was so warm we were even able to paddling ! Not bad for February
Have a great time.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)especially when those citizens are clearly against their government. It's very narrow-minded I think. A lot of their criticism is justified, but they should give individuals a chance. They don't like it when we make sweeping generalizations about them.
TimeSnowDemos
(476 posts)Americans treat other countries the same way.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)We can understand that not all people are representative of their governments. You have to get to know someone before you can judge them.
TimeSnowDemos
(476 posts)But if we're gonna generalize it's broadly true.
Mariana
(14,854 posts)Don't you mean it's sad that SOME people can't differentiate? You wouldn't want to appear narrow-minded or to be making sweeping generalizations, would you?
PatSeg
(47,393 posts)I correspond regularly with someone in Britain and the subject of Trump comes up often. They do understand and know we aren't all crazy. Every country gets a really off-the-wall leader at one time or another, kind of like that one insane relationship that seems so out of character, but your friends understand, knowing it does not reflect who you truly are and it will pass.
During the Bush years, my daughter played online games with people in Europe and she would chat with them in effort to find out how they viewed Americans. She was reassured to discover that they knew Bush did represent most Americans. If anything, they were sympathetic.
ailsagirl
(22,893 posts)Remember the sorryeverybody.com website? The rest of the world responded with another website (whose name I forget) but I was greatly heartened by the fact that they were so gracious and forgiving about it. So I don't think the image is directed at us. IMO
That brings back memories. Then came Obama and you could hear the rest of the world let out a collective sigh, "Our friend is going to be okay."
Of course, I didn't think we'd have to be apologizing again so quickly, but friends understand. If we don't get our act together, they might have to engage in a little firm intervention. After all, "true friends don't let friends drive Trump".
Cha
(297,123 posts)Hillary.. and trump had the Russians cheating for him.
TimeSnowDemos
(476 posts)I hear a LOT of anti-American stuff these days here in Ireland, from the Irish and Brits. Including LOTS of parents discouraging their kids from going to America. Sign o the times.
Cha
(297,123 posts)way when Obama was Prez.
Soph0571
(9,685 posts)O'Bama cause of his Irish roots
Cha
(297,123 posts)I read The Obama Diary all during his time in Office.. and they had photojournals for everyday. The St Patrick day celebrations were some of the best. lol
President Barack Obama visits the Dubliner, an Irish pub in Washington, D.C., with his Irish cousin, Henry Healy, center, and Ollie Hayes, a pub owner in Moneygall, Ireland, on St. Patrick's Day, Saturday, March 17, 2012. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)
At The Dubliner bar, Washington DC, March 17, 201
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2012/03/17/president-obama-dubliner-st-patricks-day
Those were the days!
PatSeg
(47,393 posts)"We thought they'd never end."
The memories grow stronger each day.
RVN VET71
(2,690 posts)makes me sooooooo feckin' proud of me Irish heritage -- and me a 4th generation American!
Rhiannon12866
(205,161 posts)I've been to Ireland twice, hated leaving both times.
Did that man ever take a bad photo????
Cha
(297,123 posts)wired that way. lol
ailsagirl!
ailsagirl
(22,893 posts)Thanks for posting that wonderful photo!!
ailsagirl
(22,893 posts)dalton99a
(81,443 posts)Paladin
(28,252 posts)paleotn
(17,911 posts)mountain grammy
(26,614 posts)carrying a piece of chalk with me.
calimary
(81,207 posts)Took the words right outta my mouth and sprayed em on the wall so everybody could see them.
cilla4progress
(24,725 posts)should hold deplorables accountable!!
spanone
(135,816 posts)the world knows.
they've seen his type before.
they are wary of his ilk.
DFW
(54,338 posts)I love to hear this
ailsagirl
(22,893 posts)Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)IQ45 will arrive 2 days after we leave....should be interesting!