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Graffiti in Central London about 20 minutes ago. Could not say it better myself. (Original Post) Soph0571 May 2018 OP
It's ALLL over Dublin as well TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #1
Anti-American or Anti-Trump? nt DURHAM D May 2018 #2
I guess we are now one and the same. LisaL May 2018 #3
This TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #4
Yep, that's our representative to the world. LisaL May 2018 #8
Anti Trump Soph0571 May 2018 #5
When I lived in London TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #7
I think people mock rather than hate Soph0571 May 2018 #11
Lol TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #22
Fecking South Dublin....bad day for Munster at the RDS today.... OnDoutside May 2018 #27
Southside TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #29
Yes, nice to be able to live there alright ! But couldn't match Cork though ..... ;) OnDoutside May 2018 #30
My father in law TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #31
West Cork is where most of my lot are from. In Cork, you either go to East Cork or West Cork for the OnDoutside May 2018 #33
I go TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #34
Caherdaniel is amazing, with sunshine it's like the Med ! Enjoy ! OnDoutside May 2018 #36
Caherdaniel TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #37
Brilliant. We stayed at the Kenmare Bay hotel for the midterms in 2017, and when we drove out OnDoutside May 2018 #38
It's sad that people can't differentiate between individual citizens and their governments, smirkymonkey May 2018 #21
It's a universal TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #23
But not all Americans. Some of us can differentiate. smirkymonkey May 2018 #24
It's almost never all of anything TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #25
"It's sad that people can't differentiate ... " Mariana May 2018 #40
Its undoubtedly anti Trump PatSeg May 2018 #15
Good Point, PatSeg ailsagirl May 2018 #46
Oh yes PatSeg May 2018 #51
I think it's anti-trump.. most of us voted for Cha May 2018 #6
As I said in another comment TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #9
Yeah, 'cause of trump. Wasn't that Cha May 2018 #10
Or as they call him in Ireland Soph0571 May 2018 #12
Yes! O'Bama! Cha May 2018 #14
"Those were the days, my friend" PatSeg May 2018 #16
That picture RVN VET71 May 2018 #20
IKR! Cha May 2018 #39
Third generation here, great grandparents from Kilkenny and Mayo Rhiannon12866 May 2018 #41
Damn!!! ailsagirl May 2018 #44
O'Bama's not Cha May 2018 #45
He sure isn't, Cha!! ailsagirl May 2018 #47
You're Cha May 2018 #49
Love it!! ailsagirl May 2018 #48
I approve dalton99a May 2018 #13
Well said. (nt) Paladin May 2018 #17
Simple, elegant, to the point. paleotn May 2018 #18
K & R everytime I see it, and it's often, thank goodness. mountain grammy May 2018 #19
Works for me. calimary May 2018 #26
The WORLD cilla4progress May 2018 #28
not graffiti, truth. spanone May 2018 #32
That has painted on more than a few walls here in Germany as well. n/t DFW May 2018 #35
GOOD ailsagirl May 2018 #43
LOL ailsagirl May 2018 #42
Going to be in London for 5 days (Eric Clapton concert) in July Heartstrings May 2018 #50
 

TimeSnowDemos

(476 posts)
1. It's ALLL over Dublin as well
Sat May 19, 2018, 09:23 AM
May 2018

I've been here for... god... 15 years - here and London - never have I see this much anti-American sentiment in the open...

 

TimeSnowDemos

(476 posts)
4. This
Sat May 19, 2018, 09:29 AM
May 2018

There's no real distinction, any more than the average American thinks about individual Yemeni, Iranians, Russians, etc.

America IS Trump to the world, and the world is less concerned than ever about subtlety re: US citizens and their gov.

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
5. Anti Trump
Sat May 19, 2018, 09:29 AM
May 2018

Definitely Trump where I am.... as for the rest of America you are like family - sometimes we don't like what you do but we always like who you are. You all are our younger cousins

 

TimeSnowDemos

(476 posts)
7. When I lived in London
Sat May 19, 2018, 09:33 AM
May 2018

Lived and worked... I worked in a University. I had friends and it was all good, until the US re-elected W. Then people who had been ok to me were actively rude and aggressive to me.

It's nice to think everyone makes this distinction, but... it's not been my experience.

Luckily here in Ireland I'm basically an adopted Irishman, but... I hear a LOT of anti-American stuff from Brits and Irish, and more than ever frankly.

Comments about the endless gun slaughter, the corruption, the poor schools, the healthcare system, etc.

And of course the Germans are VERY openly saying the US is currently not a friend of ally.

It's a giant mess now.

Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
11. I think people mock rather than hate
Sat May 19, 2018, 09:39 AM
May 2018

Generally it has always been a gentle mocking based on the fact we believe we are superior to America and therefore look down on the culture in a family way - as I said.... younger cousin. A tad irritating but the affection is there. I think that mocking is not as gentle now, and there is very much a sense of disbelief that enough Americans could be so stupid as to vote for such a stupid man. But hell we voted for Brexit..... so moral high ground is somewhat unstable at the moment. Where are you in Ireland? I am originally from Belfast.

OnDoutside

(19,952 posts)
33. West Cork is where most of my lot are from. In Cork, you either go to East Cork or West Cork for the
Sat May 19, 2018, 04:51 PM
May 2018

holidays (or go full metal jacket down to deepest Kerry). I really wouldn't consider heading east, it was always Garrettstown/Courtmac/Owenahincha.

 

TimeSnowDemos

(476 posts)
34. I go
Sat May 19, 2018, 05:00 PM
May 2018

To Caherdaniel for holidays every year. I'll be there in five weeks.

Every time I'm in Kerry I meet as many people from Cork as Kerry.

My wife holidayed a few years in Owenahincha. Never been I don't think.

OnDoutside

(19,952 posts)
36. Caherdaniel is amazing, with sunshine it's like the Med ! Enjoy !
Sat May 19, 2018, 07:21 PM
May 2018

The currents in Owenhincha are dodgy, great beach though, and Rosscarbery is down the road. Courtmac is great too, especially for Regatta week.

 

TimeSnowDemos

(476 posts)
37. Caherdaniel
Sat May 19, 2018, 07:24 PM
May 2018

I've been 10 times at least. My wife went as I child, now she's there with me and our kids. Amazing.

Two weeks on the beach with the kids and the dog.

OnDoutside

(19,952 posts)
38. Brilliant. We stayed at the Kenmare Bay hotel for the midterms in 2017, and when we drove out
Sat May 19, 2018, 07:30 PM
May 2018

to Caherdaniel, the weather was so warm we were even able to paddling ! Not bad for February

Have a great time.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
21. It's sad that people can't differentiate between individual citizens and their governments,
Sat May 19, 2018, 01:19 PM
May 2018

especially when those citizens are clearly against their government. It's very narrow-minded I think. A lot of their criticism is justified, but they should give individuals a chance. They don't like it when we make sweeping generalizations about them.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
24. But not all Americans. Some of us can differentiate.
Sat May 19, 2018, 01:24 PM
May 2018

We can understand that not all people are representative of their governments. You have to get to know someone before you can judge them.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
40. "It's sad that people can't differentiate ... "
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:24 PM
May 2018

Don't you mean it's sad that SOME people can't differentiate? You wouldn't want to appear narrow-minded or to be making sweeping generalizations, would you?

PatSeg

(47,393 posts)
15. Its undoubtedly anti Trump
Sat May 19, 2018, 10:22 AM
May 2018

I correspond regularly with someone in Britain and the subject of Trump comes up often. They do understand and know we aren't all crazy. Every country gets a really off-the-wall leader at one time or another, kind of like that one insane relationship that seems so out of character, but your friends understand, knowing it does not reflect who you truly are and it will pass.

During the Bush years, my daughter played online games with people in Europe and she would chat with them in effort to find out how they viewed Americans. She was reassured to discover that they knew Bush did represent most Americans. If anything, they were sympathetic.

ailsagirl

(22,893 posts)
46. Good Point, PatSeg
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:55 PM
May 2018

Remember the sorryeverybody.com website? The rest of the world responded with another website (whose name I forget) but I was greatly heartened by the fact that they were so gracious and forgiving about it. So I don't think the image is directed at us. IMO

PatSeg

(47,393 posts)
51. Oh yes
Sun May 20, 2018, 09:45 AM
May 2018

That brings back memories. Then came Obama and you could hear the rest of the world let out a collective sigh, "Our friend is going to be okay."

Of course, I didn't think we'd have to be apologizing again so quickly, but friends understand. If we don't get our act together, they might have to engage in a little firm intervention. After all, "true friends don't let friends drive Trump".

Cha

(297,123 posts)
6. I think it's anti-trump.. most of us voted for
Sat May 19, 2018, 09:31 AM
May 2018

Hillary.. and trump had the Russians cheating for him.

 

TimeSnowDemos

(476 posts)
9. As I said in another comment
Sat May 19, 2018, 09:34 AM
May 2018

I hear a LOT of anti-American stuff these days here in Ireland, from the Irish and Brits. Including LOTS of parents discouraging their kids from going to America. Sign o the times.

Cha

(297,123 posts)
14. Yes! O'Bama!
Sat May 19, 2018, 10:05 AM
May 2018

I read The Obama Diary all during his time in Office.. and they had photojournals for everyday. The St Patrick day celebrations were some of the best. lol


President Barack Obama visits the Dubliner, an Irish pub in Washington, D.C., with his Irish cousin, Henry Healy, center, and Ollie Hayes, a pub owner in Moneygall, Ireland, on St. Patrick's Day, Saturday, March 17, 2012. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)

At The Dubliner bar, Washington DC, March 17, 201

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2012/03/17/president-obama-dubliner-st-patricks-day

Those were the days!

PatSeg

(47,393 posts)
16. "Those were the days, my friend"
Sat May 19, 2018, 10:24 AM
May 2018

"We thought they'd never end."

The memories grow stronger each day.

RVN VET71

(2,690 posts)
20. That picture
Sat May 19, 2018, 12:39 PM
May 2018

makes me sooooooo feckin' proud of me Irish heritage -- and me a 4th generation American!

Rhiannon12866

(205,161 posts)
41. Third generation here, great grandparents from Kilkenny and Mayo
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:40 PM
May 2018

I've been to Ireland twice, hated leaving both times.

calimary

(81,207 posts)
26. Works for me.
Sat May 19, 2018, 01:40 PM
May 2018

Took the words right outta my mouth and sprayed ‘em on the wall so everybody could see them.

Heartstrings

(7,349 posts)
50. Going to be in London for 5 days (Eric Clapton concert) in July
Sun May 20, 2018, 12:07 AM
May 2018

IQ45 will arrive 2 days after we leave....should be interesting!

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