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Stuart G

(38,359 posts)
Mon May 21, 2018, 04:13 PM May 2018

Nixon and his crowd lied a lot. Trump and his crowd lies a whole lot more.

Nixon's crowd went down. I think the same is happening to Trump's crowd. I recall one obvious trait that Nixon had, and Trump has: Arrogance. Total belief that they could get away with "anything." No major consequences. Nixon's people tried to intervene in Johnson's negotiations with Viet Nam. Trump has indeed intervened with Russia. The future is indeed hard to see. Hopefully, we will all see the end of this...relatively soon.

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gordianot

(15,226 posts)
1. Trump the crook desperately does not want to be a latter day Nixon.
Mon May 21, 2018, 04:21 PM
May 2018

In his own words, “We will have to wait and see”.

Stuart G

(38,359 posts)
4. Maybe, just maybe, the patriots are keeping their mouths shut..
Mon May 21, 2018, 04:35 PM
May 2018

till the time comes when it will do the most good. I don't think we are there yet.. Hell, I don't know..

NewJeffCT

(56,827 posts)
6. I hope you are correct
Mon May 21, 2018, 04:44 PM
May 2018

but, if you also recall, Nixon had pretty strong Republican support until the tapes came out.

NewJeffCT

(56,827 posts)
5. I don't think Nixon and his allies
Mon May 21, 2018, 04:42 PM
May 2018

were so completely divorced from reality, though? However, I was very young at the time of Watergate, so may not be recalling correctly.

I don't remember Nixon saying that the FBI was part of "Loser" McGovern's Democratic plot to take him out, or that the plumbers were really Democrats working for "Crooked" Ted Kennedy.

Stuart G

(38,359 posts)
7. I would not say that Trump is divorced from reality. It is part of his lying game and he knows it
Mon May 21, 2018, 06:34 PM
May 2018

I believe he knows exactly what is happening to him and why. He knows he has broken the law, and his family has broken the laws. In his private business, he would declare "bankruptcy" and start over. If that "bankruptcy" screwed a whole bunch of people, well that was too bad.

Here he is in a different situation. "Bankruptcy" would be "Resigning" and he isn't ready to do that yet. He knows he is in trouble, but his attitude and his belief system say he can con his way out. That is what all the lies are about. Trump is conning his way out, cause it worked for him in the past. (in his opinion). Guliani is trying the same thing. My guess is in the long run this will fail. But I cannot see the future any more than any one else.

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