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I've never been much of a Royals watcher, but Diana's death hit me hard for some reason.
A friend I used to have had been a fan and follower and anglophile for many years. I said to her once, about 20 years ago, that I didn't see why Elizabeth didn't just retire and let Charles have the throne. She said, "Oh, no!! She would never do that." She went on to explain that the abdication of King Edward VIII, which left her father on the throne, had deeply affected the country and Elizabeth would never step down. Never. She saw it as her duty to stay on the throne.
I found that very odd, but accepted her explanation. I still find it a bit odd, but have learned a little more in the meantime.
Downton Abbey was one source for that learning. As most of you probably know, it was a fictional series about an aristocratic family in the early 20th Century. There too I learned a little about the sense of "duty" that these aristocrats felt toward the town that relied on them. It was economic duty, but more than that. They were looked upon as leaders and had to live up to that and fulfill those obligations. For example, they had periodic events at the Abbey where they invited the townspeople and surrounding area folks to join them.
Yes, yes, yes, I know all about wealth and class inequality and how shameful that all is, and so on and so forth. This isn't an argument against that. MY POINT is that there's yet another dimension to this whole royalty and aristocracy thing than a lot of people understand, certainly than I understood.
The final part of the lesson for me was from Elizabeth herself. I saw a film clip of her at age 21 giving an address to the people of the U.K. (by radio) pledging that whether her life would be long or short, she would devote all of it to serving them. Again, I thought it odd that she or any royal felt she was serving them, but -- that's the way it is, and was, and it wasn't just something they made up, or lip service. I think we need to honor that (even if I can't quite understand it!).
She also served in the military, btw -- learned to drive and repair jeeps!
She became queen suddenly at age 25 when her father died unexpectedly in his sleep, and frankly has done a masterful job of reigning for these 60 odd years -- the longest reigning monarch in British history.
The people of the United Kingdom love their monarchy. They have the ability to end if if and when they please. They so far have chosen not to. I think their choice should be honored. They're doing just fine with their monarchy, and based on this past weekend's events, even have a beautiful lesson or two or ten to share with the rest of the world.
BigmanPigman
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in law for abdicating the thrown and making her husband the king. She said the stress made him have an early death. If they didn't have such a strict rule about marrying divorced people he would have been allowed to stay the king AND marry Mrs. Simpson. The monarchy has a hard time dealing with and catching up with the times and changing attitudes. I can't believe that both princes were allowed to live with their fiances before they were married.
Meowmee
(5,164 posts)Thing he became king since his brother was a nazi sympathizer.
UTUSN
(70,644 posts)the Brit custom is for tourist cash, fine. But as I pass my 71st year, one of the first milestones for my two older sisters was Liz being crowned and then married.
It's been my life of disillusionment over what used to be my "heroes" - JFK/LBJ, disappointment in JimmyC, whatever. I didn't care about this wedding, but woke up as usual like at 5 A.M. and it was on, and it was touching. There were some little "shocks" like "Stand By Me" and the bride's mother ALONE, and then the fantastic cellist with the lovely Ave Maria... That's all I got.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)Very nice "color" addition. It was touching - and pleasantly shocking, wasn't it?
Bucky
(53,936 posts)I reluctantly concede that there is some utility to having an aristocracy with a vested interest in maintaining a facade of civic virtue and celebrating important social justice causes like environmentalism and public healthcare, as the British royals do.
In comparison, most of our upper class tends to just self-indulge in their youth and then gleefully exploit the working class once daddy dies and leaves them the corporations to run. So they got that on us.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)Thanks.
bluecollar2
(3,622 posts)I would like to say ,"Thank you"
Not many on this side of the Atlantic understand the Monarchy and what it means to us.
Additionally, not many understand the concept of noblesse oblige. You have summarised it well.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)Thank YOU. That means a lot to me.
I can't believe I did it justice, but at least my heart was in the right place. Thank you too for articulating the noblesse oblige concept. That makes total sense and another thing or two clicks into place.
bluecollar2
(3,622 posts)EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)It's just that those who do may express themselves a little louder.
bluecollar2
(3,622 posts)I guess if I can criticise Trump, turnabout is to be expected.
KT2000
(20,568 posts)they were born into it and left with not many other choices except to create scandal to have freedom from it. I would never want to have those choices.
I have great respect for Queen Elizabeth. She works hard to fulfill what is expected of her and at 92 is still going strong. Sure they have been rigid, hypocritical, and old fashioned but I had aunts worse than that.
Judging by some of the guests at the wedding: A man from Africa who runs a conservation program; a woman who set up a respite place for families dealing with cancer treatments; a group who run a multipronged association including vet needs; and more - I can see the value of Harry and Meghan to bring attention to those who have fallen through the cracks. They can bring money and attention to problems that are missed in society.
We have nothing like that - just a majority party that could care less about the people.
It's not my country but that wedding showed they are moving forward. My country? - I am ashamed of it.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)since they don't have any rulership responsibilites, per se, what they DO do with their time and energy is charitable affairs. Good point.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)They didn't ask to be born into these positions. And I think the modern royal family under Elizabeth have done more than earn their keep. Charles could have walked away long ago and Harry and William could be sitting on yachts somewhere, but they work very hard and do their best to serve the country.
i admire them greatly. And I love William and Harry - I've watched them grow up from adorable little boys into fine young men - I feel like a proud Auntie.
Meowmee
(5,164 posts)Somewhere that 20% or so are actively trying to get rid of the monarchy and 56 % believe it should end when E passes.
Raine
(30,540 posts)post ... Thank you!
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)Kaleva
(36,248 posts)I don't know how her old school father would have handled the rapid changes and her uncle would have been an outright disaster.