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A more than 300-year-old Spanish shipwreck carrying treasure that might be worth up to $17 billion was discovered with the help of an underwater robot. It's called the Remus 6000 and it can dive nearly four miles and is loaded with sensors and cameras.
Bronze cannons confirmed "the holy grail of shipwrecks" had been found at the bottom of the Caribbean Sea. They are engraved with dolphins a telltale sign they belong to the Spanish galleon San Jose, lost more than 300 years ago.
"I just sat there for about 10 minutes and smiled," said Jeff Kaeli, a research engineer with the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution.
Kaeli was alone in his bunk on the search vessel when he spotted the cannons.
"I'm not a marine archaeologist, but ... I know what a cannon looks like. So in that moment, I guess I was the only person in the world who knew we'd found the shipwreck," he said.
The exact location of the wreckage is still a secret, but it was discovered in November 2015 off the coast of Cartagena, Colombia. Its cargo of gold, silver, and emeralds could be worth as much as $17 billion.
The Remus 6000, operated by the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute in Massachusetts, found the ship almost 2,000 feet below the surface. The underwater robot scanned the sea floor using long-range sonar then went back and took pictures of any objects that seemed out of the ordinary.
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GusBob
(7,286 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Is the Spanish government will claim ownership, rightfully, IMO. I am sure that Spain will be more than happy to pay a finder's fee.
Uncle Joe
(58,298 posts)The people that found it aren't making any claims just looking for historical purposes.
SonofDonald
(2,050 posts)From South America by the Spanish
mitch96
(13,872 posts)The old story in history.. Where do you draw the line.. Did Spain steal it from So America?
Did the English steal it from the Spanish???
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SonofDonald
(2,050 posts)It's 2000 feet down on the bottom of the ocean.
mitch96
(13,872 posts)your right, supposedly still down there...
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SonofDonald
(2,050 posts)It's powder magazine was hit during a battle with the English navy and it blew into shrapnel and sank off a small island.
They've always known where it was just not exactly, the government of Columbia never allowed it to be searched for until now it seems.
The "Atocha" found by Mel Fisher had a known treasure of 4 million pesos on board when it went down.
The "San Jose" had a treasure of 11 million pesos on board, they had kept all the treasure they were taking from South America in Cartegenia for years due to the English Navy taking it from their ships at sea.
Years of booty were loaded on to a number of ships in an attempt to run the British gauntlet but they were waiting outside.
Man I can't wait to see pics of the wreck, I've known about this ship for nearly fifty years now, another thing on my bucket list to see.
SonofDonald
(2,050 posts)By Robert F Marx, page 431
Year 1708
Correction, it was because of the Spanish war of succession no treasure had been sent from South America for six years.
It was loaded onto four ships out of a fleet of seventeen in the fleet at Porto Bello, it was off Cartegena when the battle began
It sank off Baru Island, only five of the crew of six hundred survived the sinking
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)KelleyKramer
(8,914 posts)Is that a typo?
I didn't know they even had ships that big back then
If that's correct, that was one big ass mofo
SonofDonald
(2,050 posts)I know/have read that ships normally had hundreds on board, seems to be around four hundred plus normally if not more and yes they weren't very big ships.
The San Jose was the flagship of its fleet so it was big and well armed.
The good ol days, lol
SonofDonald
(2,050 posts)One of the searchers said it was about "The cultural treasure" not the monetary one.
I call BS, the ship exploded into shrapnel, the "cultural treasure" is scattered and smashed all over the ocean floor, there's are plenty of wrecks still intact to actually get a sense of the culture from out there.
Of course it's about the treasure it had on board, just not for Woods Hole which I have the utmost respect for but somebody wanted it found and it wasn't for the cultural aspect.
I think it's funny that Spain put a claim in on it, screw them, they took it by force from South Americas people, it should all go back to the people it came from period.
Just my two cents.
GusBob
(7,286 posts)I am guessing Native American tribes whose bloodlines have long disappeared
SonofDonald
(2,050 posts)Put into slavery among all the other obscenities done to them then murdered.
For hundreds of years and many generations.
I don't think a penny of the treasure should go anywhere but where it came from.
GusBob
(7,286 posts)For murder, genocide, rape, torture, kidnapping, crimes against man and heresy against God
"Treasure" what a fucking romantic word.
These thieves, these monsters, these brutish, sawed-off hairy half pint of disgusting smelly men who never bathed, bearing armour on chest, swords in one hand and crucifixes in the other committed genocide upon cultures and humankind in the name of conquest, gold and God
Take their fucking treasure and incinerate it to dust.
ansible
(1,718 posts)It genuinely enrages me at what Spain did to the Americas, destroying entire civilizations in the name of greed and gold. Fuck Spain.
SonofDonald
(2,050 posts)They took everything of gold and silver they could find, when they were done with that they went straight to the mines where it came from.
That's what they used people put into slavery for, to dig out the rest still in place, they even brought over mining engineers to get it all.
History isn't pretty.