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bigtree

(85,986 posts)
Wed May 23, 2018, 01:10 PM May 2018

Federal judge rules Trump blocking people on Twitter is unconstitutional

The Hill @thehill 7m7 minutes ago

#BREAKING: Federal judge rules Trump blocking people on Twitter is unconstitutional http://hill.cm/cv4HFc2

District Judge Naomi Reice Buchwald wrote in a ruling that Trump's Twitter account, @realDonaldTrump, is a designated public forum and protected by the First Amendment.

"Blocking of the plaintiffs based on their political speech constitutes viewpoint discrimination that violates the First Amendment," the ruling reads.

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Federal judge rules Trump blocking people on Twitter is unconstitutional (Original Post) bigtree May 2018 OP
Good dalton99a May 2018 #1
Big difference between blocking someone from posting and blocking them from reading. n/t PoliticAverse May 2018 #2
Darn, yes! It just affects blocks on viewing. Hortensis May 2018 #5
That's not how I read the ruling. He can't block people, i.e. he can't block replies. SunSeeker May 2018 #18
Oh, I hope you're right and the 1 initial analysis I read Hortensis May 2018 #20
Of course many of his followers are fake. You can purchase fake followers. SunSeeker May 2018 #21
You can't really block someone from reading though...all they have to do is logout Lucinda May 2018 #16
He will keep right on doing it with no repercussions Takket May 2018 #3
After all, elleng May 2018 #4
Is the same true for all posters? B2G May 2018 #6
It would apply only to public officials. tammywammy May 2018 #9
My guess is that it would be more narrowly interpreted mythology May 2018 #12
Agreed. tammywammy May 2018 #14
No. Twitter is communications software that private and public individuals use to communicate. Caliman73 May 2018 #19
Weird manor321 May 2018 #7
He was also blocking people from responding. tammywammy May 2018 #10
Actually if blocked, while logged in, users couldn't see the tweets mythology May 2018 #13
If trump's idiotic and moronic tweets are official govt. communications, then trump Gothmog May 2018 #8
The judge's ruling mistakenly assumes that Trump will act normally and procon May 2018 #11
Well, they just need to go in and get injunctive relief if he does not comply. SunSeeker May 2018 #17
LOL Lucinda May 2018 #15
Thank you, District Judge Naomi Reice Buchwald! Cha May 2018 #22

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
5. Darn, yes! It just affects blocks on viewing.
Wed May 23, 2018, 01:18 PM
May 2018

You're a spoiler, Averse. For a few seconds I was imagining Trump and his bully pulpit covered with flying eggs.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
20. Oh, I hope you're right and the 1 initial analysis I read
Wed May 23, 2018, 05:09 PM
May 2018

is wrong. I read the document you presented (thanks), and it sounds as if you could well be, but I'm also more confused by potential complexities. I've never posted there, but if it is I'll visit and as him to resign for the good of the nation.

He "hereby demands," does he? Wish that had been submitted in evidence. Just read that 15M, or about a quarter of his supposed followers, are fake.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
21. Of course many of his followers are fake. You can purchase fake followers.
Wed May 23, 2018, 10:23 PM
May 2018

If you are willing to pay for them, you can have all the followers you want.

https://buytwitterfollowersreview.org/

Lucinda

(31,170 posts)
16. You can't really block someone from reading though...all they have to do is logout
Wed May 23, 2018, 02:20 PM
May 2018

and then they can see his posts.

elleng

(130,865 posts)
4. After all,
Wed May 23, 2018, 01:15 PM
May 2018

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
6. Is the same true for all posters?
Wed May 23, 2018, 01:19 PM
May 2018

Curious about what precedent this might set. Isn't Twitter nothing but one big public forum?

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
12. My guess is that it would be more narrowly interpreted
Wed May 23, 2018, 01:51 PM
May 2018

Trump uses his personal Twitter account to announce public policy. If he kept that separate, I wouldn't see a reason to have the same policy.

Caliman73

(11,730 posts)
19. No. Twitter is communications software that private and public individuals use to communicate.
Wed May 23, 2018, 04:43 PM
May 2018

The difference is that Trump represents a branch of the Federal Government, thus by him blocking people on his official Twitter feed which he has used to make government announcements, he is essentially the government abridging the rights of people to redress grievances.

Hillary Clinton can block whoever she wants on her private Twitter feed, but she would not have been able to do so on her Twitter feed as Secretary of State.

 

manor321

(3,344 posts)
7. Weird
Wed May 23, 2018, 01:25 PM
May 2018

I think it is a weird ruling. Anyone can read people's tweets, even if they don't have an account (except for reply tweets).

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
10. He was also blocking people from responding.
Wed May 23, 2018, 01:41 PM
May 2018

He was blocking people that criticized him from viewing and responding to his tweets

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
13. Actually if blocked, while logged in, users couldn't see the tweets
Wed May 23, 2018, 02:01 PM
May 2018

But also Trump uses his personal Twitter account (as opposed to the POTUS account) to make policy announcements. As such it's fair to mandate allowing access.

Gothmog

(145,130 posts)
8. If trump's idiotic and moronic tweets are official govt. communications, then trump
Wed May 23, 2018, 01:31 PM
May 2018

cannot block people on twitter

procon

(15,805 posts)
11. The judge's ruling mistakenly assumes that Trump will act normally and
Wed May 23, 2018, 01:50 PM
May 2018

respond to her order like any other defendant who lost their case.

The judge declined to issue an order forcing Trump to unblock the users, saying her ruling should be sufficient to force a change in behavior.





If the order isn't specific and its not in writing, Trump will not comply with her intent.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
17. Well, they just need to go in and get injunctive relief if he does not comply.
Wed May 23, 2018, 04:34 PM
May 2018

They received the declaratory relief. The ruling already says they can get injunctive relief if, after notice of this ruling, the President still blocks these people from Twitter.

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