Boy Says Teacher Told Him It Will Be His Fault When Police Shoot Him At Age 16

[gollygee]

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/10-year-old-teacher-police-shoot-him_us_5b0453e3e4b0740c25e5ee60?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004

Malachi Pearson, a 10-year-old black boy, says a teacher used the prospect of his death in a police shooting to chastise him when he was goofing off at school.

The fourth-grader at Rosehill Elementary School in Lenexa, Kansas, told FOX 4 that he was playing around with a friend in a lunch line when the unidentified teacher intercepted and pushed the two children apart, assuming they were fighting.

“She told me when you turn 16 and the police shoot you, the only person you can be mad at is yourself,” he said.

Malachi said the comment made him cry. His father was shot and killed in Kansas City when he was just an infant.

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[IluvPitties]

1. Making America Great Again

By terrorizing black people again.

[Dream Girl]

2. Wypipo

[hlthe2b]

3. Cruel person...

[Me.]

4. That Was My Thought Too

[ThirdEye]

28. Is this actually proper usage of this term?

My understanding is that this was a label for oblivious and uncaring white people. For example, those that would be more willing to help a hurt dog than make justice reform a priority, but NOT necessarily overt racist bigots.

[Chemisse]

57. A woman who would do this would surely go home and kick her dog as well. n/t

[ThirdEye]

61. You'd be surprised...

plus I thought the entire point of the term was to identify people who seemed to have a massive disconnect from their personal feelings they are a good person (I love dogs!) from their true non-holistic nature (I'd save a drowning dog before a person)

[Caliman73]

5. It is the environment that right wingers have created that encourages this.

There are so many ways that teacher could have responded. "Hey guys, it isn't a good idea to mess around like that, someone can get hurt, or angry, and then things get out of control and people get into trouble." OR "Hey, I really need you guys to focus so that everyone can get their lunch and enjoy their time".

That teacher needs to (or better yet, the principal needs to) ask what message they were trying to send with the stupid comment.

[dembotoz]

6. the teacher is wrong but how do you deal with a little monster

I know of one....kid is just out of control.
Know the kids special ed teacher.
elementary
kid hitting others, throwing books, screaming and running down the halls...parents shrug
calling teachers names, swinging at teachers....disciplinary file literally an inch thick....I have seen it...have not read anything in it.....expulsion proceedings are underway but central office admin has added a delay so the kid is literally saved by the bell.
Appears expulsion has lots of paperwork and maybe the kid will move over the summer.....
this kid is just getting bigger, stronger and meaner

mainstream does not always work....

[gollygee]

9. These are not monsters. They are children.

They were just goofing off during class, which happens. I've done a great deal of substitute teaching, and we get tons of this. There are tons of ways to handle this kind of thing.

Are you saying this was acceptable? What do you think should be done? And do you know any teachers?

[dembotoz]

11. Yes I do.

Yep children, out of control children...

[gollygee]

14. Which of the questions does that answer?

You do know teachers? If so, have you talked to them about whether it's OK for teachers to say this to kids?

[dembotoz]

17. Question for u... what do you do with a kid that warrants expulsion

Do you deal with those...they put the safety of themselves and others at risk...

[gollygee]

18. I call the office to deal with them if they're that bad

I don't tell them they'll deserve it when they get shot in a few years.

[gollygee]

19. Also, this was a child goofing off, which children do

Not someone putting anyone's safety at risk.

[dembotoz]

22. Goofing off is a matter of definition .

What happens to the kid who goes to the office?
Magically transformed?

[gollygee]

24. There are people trained to handle it without threatening them with death

so people who are trained on how to speak to children.

[dembotoz]

25. so you automatically believe the kid?

again do some kids warrant expulsion

[gollygee]

26. Some kids but not kids who are goofing off in line

And even kids who warrant expulsion shouldn't be spoken to like this. They are still children and human beings. There is NO excuse for anyone saying this to a child. I don't care what the child did.

[dembotoz]

30. if the kid deserves expulsion does that mean he is honest?

[gollygee]

33. It doesn't freaking matter

What the heck? I don't care if he's honest or deserves expulsion - he still shouldn't be talked to like that.

And that's a huge jump you're making. You seem to think there's some likelihood that he deserves expulsion when there's nothing like that said anywhere, and what is said is that he did something incredibly common - goof off in a lunch line. That is so common that it happens in pretty much every line unless you keep the kids engaged somehow. Kids don't often do something so bad to require expulsion - especially kids that young - but kids that young routinely goof off while standing in lines. Why are you trying to turn this into something bigger than it appears to be?

[dembotoz]

39. how do you define goof off in line???????????????????????????????????

smash a chair over a kids head? is that goofing off?

love how you throw the teacher under the bus without any facts...guess that is why we used to have unions

[gollygee]

42. No, that isn't goofing off. That's assault.

The teacher wouldn't have gotten between kids throwing around chairs so that obviously isn't what happened. Teachers call the office when there's violence.

Kids play games when in line, and games between 9-year-old boys are like games between puppies. There's sometimes light pushing, so I can imagine a teacher thinking it might be a fight - or the start of one anyway - and getting between them. That is reasonable. Making them get out of line and go to the back and wait at the end of the line for lunch rather than the middle would be reasonable too. What the teacher said is not reasonable.

[dembotoz]

46. and you work in schools.....lol

[Demsrule86]

56. No one gets expelled in grade school...most states have to provide full time teachers to tutor them

as they should.

[LanternWaste]

51. What happens when the kid is told he's going to get shot? Magically transformed?

What happens when the kid is told he's going to get shot? Magically transformed?

Six of one, half a dozen of the other... and each as fallacious and petulant as the other.

[Demsrule86]

59. A kid is lined up which mean elementary school...and you expect behavior associated with an office..

for heaven's sake...

[Demsrule86]

15. Not that way...if she can't do her job. She should find another profession.

This kid did nothing you suggest...he was 'goofing' off...if that was a shooting offense this white girl would have been dead at 16. Teacher needs to go.

[dembotoz]

34. you don't know that you have what the kid said

[Demsrule86]

37. It doesn't matter. It takes a certain sort of person to teach. You never say things like that.

I would fire that teacher. Also, since she probably knew the kid's Dad was shot, that makes it even more horrible.

[dembotoz]

38. fire the teacher...due process be damned lol

love to be your boss...don't like your shoes...fired

[Demsrule86]

44. There can be due process...but she should at the end be fired if she said what is claimed.

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You understand she probably knew about the kid's Dad right...you can't talk to a student like that...it is just wrong...she should be fired after due process. I would also add she should not set foot in the classroom until the due process is over and hopefully she is fired. Teaching is a tough job, some can't cut it.

[dembotoz]

49. no i doubt she knew about the dad.....folders are painfully thin

even when there is an iep.......


throw throw under the bus..................

[Demsrule86]

53. I bet she did...it was a perfect thing for a monster teacher to say...you will end up just like Dad.

[Demsrule86]

47. I live in a right to work state so firing can happen anytime for any reason or no reason.

[dembotoz]

50. and you support that....lol

[Demsrule86]

54. Nope but I don't support what this teacher said...if she said it regardless of the circumstances she

needs to go.

[Ilsa]

21. Why the heck are you equating the OP's story

with your personal anecdote? They aren't the same. These are kids being kids. They were in an environment with nomimal structure, so they start acting like little boys. Not anything like the special needs situation in your anecdote.

[dembotoz]

32. not determined if its kids being kids

[Ilsa]

45. So you assume the worst about kids. nt

[Demsrule86]

48. Are you a teacher?

[dembotoz]

52. i know some inner city teachers well and i know you haven't a clue

[Demsrule86]

55. I taught for 20 years....and in inner city schools some of the time hahaha...I should have known

you never taught. I went into business in Georgia as teaching there was a akin to child abuse...I never resorted to verbal abuse or any other sort of abuse...and I still get letters from my kids (and some friend me on facebook)...of course not everyone is cut out for teaching...which may include your 'friends'. I don't deny it is a hard job... so do it well are get another damn job. But let's not torture little kids as this poor excuse for a teacher allegedly did with her cruel comments.

[Demsrule86]

58. sorry about the hahah...but honestly what do you know about this subject?

hearsay from your 'friends' who tell you inner city kids ( mostly Black) are monsters? There are some tough kids out there no doubt. And maybe your 'friends' need to seek new employment if they can't handle the job. I am 5 foot three and weigh 120 lbs...and somehow I managed to control high school kids...and this kid was younger.

[dembotoz]

60. oh please don't do the black thing......the thing about calling the office....if the phones work

my point of reference is a totally out of control kid who should not be in a school setting....not safe for the other kids...and yet the kid remains......
you automatically believe the kid...i am not so fast
perhaps it is good you got out of education

and by the way the phones have been out for most of the year.....at least to parts of the school....

[IronLionZion]

27. Racism and public execution are not the answers

There is training for teachers to deal with this sort of thing, especially when the kids are young. (Hook em while they're young) so they can get better not worse.

[dembotoz]

31. da plane da plane welcome to fantasy island

[IronLionZion]

36. You don't make any sense

[dembotoz]

41. and you do?????????

lets throw all teachers under the bus

[Cal Carpenter]

62. Nice fucking thread derail

*slow clap*

[Ferrets are Cool]

7. As far as I can determine, there is no mention of the teachers race...

so please don't make assumptions.

[Demsrule86]

16. I would bet money she was white.

[Crunchy Frog]

8. So the kid gets identified by name, while the teacher remains anonymous.

[gollygee]

10. Yep, again.nt

[ProudLib72]

12. So this is how the wypipo use the shootings as a "teaching moment"

[ThirdEye]

29. Same q as I have above - is this really what wypipo means?

My understanding is that this was a label for oblivious and uncaring white people. For example, those that would be more willing to help a hurt dog than make justice reform a priority, but NOT necessarily overt racist bigots.

[gollygee]

40. From checking on Twitter, it looks like

it could be used for white people who are overtly racist or who are unconsciously racist. Lots of times for people who aren't aware they are racist, but I bet if you asked this teacher they'd be incredulous at the suggestion anyone would consider them racist.

[struggle4progress]

13. Will everyone feel safer if teachers who talk like this have guns?

[Crunchy Frog]

35. Apparently the little monsters will deserve it.

And at least some people on this board will happily defend it.

[mercuryblues]

20. The teacher's reaction

makes me wonder how much the kid was really acting up in the line.

[Starry Messenger]

23. :(

[NCTraveler]

43. They are now preemptively covering for societal racism and cops?

There are no ends as to how far they will go.

[enid602]

63. Lenexa

Lenexa is nexta Olathe.