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TheBlackAdder

(28,184 posts)
Thu May 24, 2018, 05:16 PM May 2018

An Amazon Echo Recorded a Family's Private Conversation and Sent It to Some Random Person

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And they won't refund the family who was violated! Nothing like standing up for your customers!


A family in Portland, Oregon contacted the company recently to ask it to investigate why the device had recorded private conversations in their home and sent the audio to a person in another state.

The family did as told, after the employee told them about receiving an audio file containing what seemed like a private conversation. At first the family did not believe the employee, but then the employee was able to relay details of the private conversation. “My husband and I would joke and say I’d be these devices are listening to what we’re saying,” a woman named Danielle, who didn’t want her last name used, told KIRO-TV in Portland. She explained that a couple of weeks ago one of her husband’s employees called them and told them “unplug your Alexa devices right now…you’re being hacked.”
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Amazon did not immediately respond to a Mother Jones request for comment. But Danielle told KIRO-TV that after repeatedly calling Amazon, an engineer “investigated” and confirmed that the device had sent messages to someone on her husband’s contact list. “He apologized like 15 times in a matter of 30 minutes,” she said, adding that “this is something we need to fix.” The engineer did not provide details as to what happened, but said that “the device just guessed what we were saying.”

The company told KIRO-TV in a statement that it takes privacy seriously and that what happened to Danielle “was an extremely rare occurrence.” The company offered to “de-provision” the device so the family could still use its Smart Home features, Danielle said, but she’d rather get a refund, “which [Amazon has] been unwilling to do,” she told the TV station.



https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/05/an-amazon-echo-recorded-a-familys-private-conversation-and-sent-it-to-some-random-person/


I'm sure there are hacking docs on the web to crack into people's Echos, just like there are docs on how to evesdrop on someone's XBox or Home Security Cameras.

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Squinch

(50,949 posts)
1. Who in their right mind thinks these things are a good idea? I can't believe how
Thu May 24, 2018, 05:24 PM
May 2018

eagerly people are throwing away every right they have ever had for the sake of convenience or sheer laziness.

TheBlackAdder

(28,184 posts)
2. It boggles the mind. Those home thermostats can be hacked, cell phones covertly turned on to monitor
Thu May 24, 2018, 06:36 PM
May 2018

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While cell phones can be turned on remotely, that seems less intrusive than a system like Windows Cortana or these Echo systems that passively listen for key words. They're an enabled microphone that is just an IP address away from being enabled, and they probably aren't as secure as a cell phone.

People were all hopped up on the XBox's motion camera. We had one for the kids, and it turned out to capture pictures when we weren't even playing an enabled game. Then, all of the hackers came out and posted ways to gain remote control of them.

A year ago, there were discussions that certain cable company cable boxes had cameras in there to capture the reactions of people who watch certain content, for "marketing research" purposes. Who wants something eavesdropping video captures in your room?

This is really starting to get weird, yet my kids are desensitized to it, posting crap on Snapchat and Instagram.

The only one of my kids who gets it is the oldest, who is also politically active and doesn't want any bad things out there.

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Squinch

(50,949 posts)
3. I have a little Lenovo hybrid notebook/tablet. I love it. But when it dies, I will not buy another
Thu May 24, 2018, 06:43 PM
May 2018

I've disabled everything I can find about Cortana, but she still randomly pops up and asks what she can help me with.

Yes I turned everything off. No, I have no trust that everything is off.

That cable box thing is terrifying. I thought that was only Samsung TVs. Which is another brand I will never buy, but I do understand that I am naive to think it's only the ones who tell us they are doing it.

TheBlackAdder

(28,184 posts)
4. My next laptop will run Qubes OS on it, with Virtual Windows partitions that run in untrusted state.
Thu May 24, 2018, 07:00 PM
May 2018

When you shut the Windows windows down, they're gone. Viruses are virtually eliminated. I have a dual partition Windows and Linux Mint PC build here, but my home machine s old and tired. I need a new one, and with the quad-core and hexa-core chips, they play right into a full-fledged virtualization system.

I tooka US Intelligence course, taught by a doctor who consults the IC and generals. He says that Windows is the least secure operating saystem out there. If you do quick checks, you'll see that Microsoft owns Azure, which Ubuntu runs on top of. That is another data collector, like Windows. Your PCs directory information get set to Amazon's cloud for direct marketing, then to Microsoft and then the NSA. Microsoft and AT&T are the chief suppliers of information to them.

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
5. I have no idea what any of that first para means, but when I go to get my next notebook, I'm
Thu May 24, 2018, 07:06 PM
May 2018

PMing you for a recommendation!

Your second paragraph is terrifying.

This is all making me very sad. I still have a land line and as I erased 9 messages yesterday, every one of them a scam, it made me stop and realize the sheer numbers of people out there just dying to interfere in and screw up other people's lives.

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