Football team penalized for 12 months for refusing to give patriotic salute

[ehrnst]

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/11727902

[ExciteBike66]

1. Well, there WERE some fine people on both sides in Germany in the 1930s...

[Va Lefty]

2. Anyone who can't see where we're heading is blind

[dixiegrrrrl]

15. The details include news of punishment for other resistors.

BERLIN. Jan. 7. 1934
The Karlsruhe Football Club has been prohibited from playing throughout 1934 because the team failed to give the Nazi salute on entering the field against a French club at Nancy in December. The abstention was alleged to be due to the Frenchmen threatening not to play with-out the promise of compensation if the salute were given because they feared that the spectators would indulge in a riot.
All the sports clubs of Baden have been for-bidden to accept French engagements until the incident has been settled.

A message from Essen states that two professors controlling the hospitals there have been sentenced to three and four months' imprisonment respectively for having falsely disparaged Nazism.

A business man and a typist have been sentenced to Imprisonment, and another typist has been fined £100 on similar charges.

[ehrnst]

30. Under His eye.... (nt)

[FiveGoodMen]

25. A third of the US apparently sees where we're heading and wants it that way.

We are absolutely infested with Nazis.

[Cha]

3. Yeah, Germany tried to warn at

least as far back as January 2016.

[dlk]

4. Here We Go...

[dembotoz]

5. thanks for posting

[Bernardo de La Paz]

6. I thought this was going to be about a high school team in USA, which proves OP's point ...

... It IS happening in the US.

[47of74]

12. Yeah me too.

[erronis]

20. Coming soon to a sports venue near you....

I read something recently that equated lust for sports with patriotism, or at least that trumped up by the owners.

[calimary]

24. No kidding. It no longer seems far-fetched.

Thanks, Deceitful Donald.

Yes. He's so big on this branding stuff. Let's brand HIM now.


President Trump has many limitations, to put it mildly, but he is brilliant at the dark art of branding. Those seeking to hold him accountable had better study his technique — and learn to fight fire with fire.

Witness how Trump is trying to use the word “spy” as a weapon against the FBI, the Justice Department and special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation of Russian interference in the election. The president’s performance this week has been totally dishonest — and, let’s be honest, quite effective.

President Trump’s ‘spy’ and the dark art of branding
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/president-trumps-spy-and-the-dark-art-of-branding/2018/05/24/62d9b64e-5f8e-11e8-9ee3-49d6d4814c4c_story.html?utm_term=.7cb87483ba2f

[Left-over]

7. Facism at its worst!!!

[magicarpet]

11. Run rampant....

[Augiedog]

8. NFL. The brainless running the brain injured for the entertainment of the witless and mindless.

[IronLionZion]

9. Well they needed to punish foreigners and define who is a "real German" also

History repeats itself in the worse ways

[magicarpet]

10. Feel good nationalism at every bend and turn.

But the US Constitution gets the shit all over it treatment - but not a squawk is heard.

Praise the symbols of Americana, the flag and the national anthem. But the bedrock ideals of "Freedom and Justice for All" is a meaningless cliche young children drone on about and recite in elementary school - but has lost all practice and relevance in adult society.

Feel good propaganda, sophisticated perception management, a distant mirage - but not really worthy of the time or effort to really make it so.

All women and men are created equal - is that only meant as a fucking joke ?

The humor and laughter escapes me. America can be so much better than that - if we would only try.

[erronis]

21. +1 - I echo your sentiments. There is no humor in current events, but we need some levity.

[heaven05]

13. right has to fight

wrong, always. It takes courage.

[KPN]

19. Yup.

[BlueJac]

14. K&R

[Trust Buster]

16. Shameful analogy IMO.

[Wounded Bear]

17. History doesn't repeat, but it does rhyme...

[paleotn]

18. Yep....

We now have pregame Nuremberg moments before nearly every sporting event. My thoughts have always been, the more zealous one is about patriotic symbolism, the more likely they are to wipe their ass with The Constitution.

[KPN]

22. Haha. I would just add "without even knowing it" for clarity's sake.

It's basically ignorance, bigotry and/or wanting to belong.

[paleotn]

23. For some, probably....

For others on the right, that equality thing is pesky and irritating. Thus, a re-write our Constitution is in order.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-conservative-plan-to-rewrite-the-constitution-and-yes-its-a-thing

[Uncle Joe]

26. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread ehrnst

[JustAnotherGen]

27. Beautiful analogy

[Me.]

28. Ain't It The Truth

Heil Comrade Trump

[Nay]

29. That's the territory we are in now, folks. nt

[Ferrets are Cool]

31. K & R

[SunSeeker]

32. K & R

[Blue_Tires]

33. Brilliant find...

[triron]

34. Please send this to [e-mail]

[ramblin_dave]

35. Snopes just published about this

Was a German Football Club Banned After Failing to Give a Nazi Salute?
News reports of a German football club's getting banned in 1934 after failing to give the Nazi salute are real, but the team's actions were not in protest of the Third Reich.


https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/german-football-club-banned-failing-give-nazi-salute/

[dixiegrrrrl]

36. Sounds like it was about the salute.

Snopes:

The Karlsruhe Football Club was scheduled to play in Metz, France on Christmas day in 1933.
The French players reportedly threatened not to play the match if the Germans used the Nazi salute.

The Karlsruhe players

were also also reportedly worried that the salute could cause fans to riot, and

decided to forego the Nazi salute in order to play the match; when word reached Berlin, the team was banned from playing outside of Germany for a year.

[Henry Krinkle]

37. Ironic, funny thing about that...

is if someone gave the nazi salute in Germany nowadays, that person would face the potential
of arrest and prison time.

Some might not like it, but exercising your 'free speech' cuts both ways.

[blake2012]

38. Those who seem like boorish clowns are the unhinged psychopaths who become totalitarians