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babylonsister

(171,043 posts)
Fri May 25, 2018, 09:01 AM May 2018

Biden Unleashes On GOP In A Campaign-Style Speech That Should Terrify Trump

https://www.politicususa.com/2018/05/24/biden-unleashes-gop-trump.html

Posted on Thu, May 24th, 2018 by Sean Colarossi
Biden Unleashes On GOP In A Campaign-Style Speech That Should Terrify Trump


Former Vice President Joe Biden sounded a lot like a presidential candidate on Thursday, using a speech at the New York Democratic Party convention in Long Island to express outrage over what the country has become in the era of Donald Trump.

The former veep and potential 2020 candidate delivered a message that Democrats should run with: Values matter and Republicans have none.

“This is not your father’s Republican Party,” Biden said in the fiery speech, according to the Associated Press. “They are not who we are. They are not who America is.”

He said Republicans are “sending a vision of America around the world that is distorted. That is damaging. That is hurting us.”

Biden added: “This phony populism, this fake nationalism… It’s time to say ‘no more.'”

Video of Biden’s full speech:




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On Thursday, Joe Biden made it clear that taking on Donald Trump and his Republican appeasers is about more than the same tired political arguments. Instead, it’s about what kind of values we want the United States to project to the world.

With Biden as a messenger, that’s a contest Trump is likely to lose.
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Biden Unleashes On GOP In A Campaign-Style Speech That Should Terrify Trump (Original Post) babylonsister May 2018 OP
I would support Joe if he's our nominee as I would any Dem. DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #1
Agree on Biden NewJeffCT May 2018 #2
We can do worse though. DemocratSinceBirth May 2018 #3
I like swalwell. He's young, smart, articulate, not afraid to get out and speak up. We need young notdarkyet May 2018 #5
I like him as well NewJeffCT May 2018 #8
Biden ain't bland. DemoHack May 2018 #12
no, but he is older NewJeffCT May 2018 #14
Biden can *metaphorically* punch Trump in the face. DemoHack May 2018 #17
Biden is definitely good at that NewJeffCT May 2018 #21
Harris was a great AG? shanny May 2018 #27
Swalwell True Blue American May 2018 #16
My vote is for Joe Kennedy. olegramps May 2018 #23
Love Swalwell awesomerwb1 May 2018 #29
I agree duforsure May 2018 #22
Now he's a trusted face of the Obama administration, so he's R B Garr May 2018 #13
'That being said?' Just DON'T. elleng May 2018 #25
What I wonder is why Clinton didn't get him to run with her as vicepresident. olegramps May 2018 #26
Go get 'em Joe! I don't think he is "campaigning". I think he just loves doing this. tonyt53 May 2018 #4
notdarkyet, I love Swalwell, too!!! Gamecock Lefty May 2018 #6
Governor Jay Inslee of WA state is my favorite The Blue Flower May 2018 #7
Inslee intrigues me, but "tough against a bully" ... DemoHack May 2018 #11
Me too! Aristus May 2018 #15
An Inslee- Biden True Blue American May 2018 #18
Maybe Biden/Inslee. DemoHack May 2018 #20
Hell, I'd VOTE for the devil himself over any Rethug for President... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #31
Biden can beat Trump; I'm not sure about most of the 30-40 others. DemoHack May 2018 #9
Is happening... watch! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #32
I'm not sure who I want yet, but we definitely need someone with fire! smirkymonkey May 2018 #33
Thanks, DemoHack; I tend to agree, elleng May 2018 #35
I'm a nerd! DemoHack May 2018 #38
He will be formidable BannonsLiver May 2018 #37
My alt right co-worker is "afraid" of a Biden run. nt Kirk Lover May 2018 #10
I feel for him/ her. True Blue American May 2018 #19
I love Biden doing this greymattermom May 2018 #24
Love Love Love Joe I say a Biden/KennedyIII ticket demtenjeep May 2018 #28
Two white men? oberliner May 2018 #40
"This is not your father's Republican Party" Caliman73 May 2018 #30
I agree cynical_idealist May 2018 #36
As VP, Biden had an exceptional support staff. I have no doubt oasis May 2018 #34
Thanks Joe...I needed that. I really needed that. Hulk May 2018 #39
"Your father's Republican Party" was also awful oberliner May 2018 #41
Me neither. Trump is a monster 50 years in the making. Garrett78 May 2018 #42
State convention coming up, we don't get Biden we get some mayor dembotoz May 2018 #43

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
1. I would support Joe if he's our nominee as I would any Dem.
Fri May 25, 2018, 09:03 AM
May 2018

The irony is he looks better as a prospective candidate than as an actual candidate with his two presidential campaigns ending in disaster.

That being said we could do a lot worse.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
2. Agree on Biden
Fri May 25, 2018, 09:09 AM
May 2018

Love the guy and would support him if he's the nominee, but would prefer somebody younger.

With the way the media is, if he makes one of his famous verbal gaffes on the campaign trail, it would be magnified 100x over compared to the garbage that Trump spews daily. Like the Hillary email scandal was played over and over and allowed people to focus on her one "BIG" scandal versus Trump's daily scandals that were each bigger than anything related to Clinton.

notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
5. I like swalwell. He's young, smart, articulate, not afraid to get out and speak up. We need young
Fri May 25, 2018, 09:44 AM
May 2018

Blood.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
8. I like him as well
Fri May 25, 2018, 10:12 AM
May 2018

but, it's tough to go from the House to the presidency.

I like Warren as well, but also want that new blood. Democrats do well with smart, younger charismatic candidates - JFK, Bill Clinton, Barack Obama. They don't do as well with older and/or blander candidates - McGovern, Mondale, Dukakis, Gore, Kerry.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
14. no, but he is older
Fri May 25, 2018, 10:28 AM
May 2018

so, has a long history of dirt to dig up on every vote he has taken in the senate.

I don't think either Cory Booker or Kamala Harris are bland. I'm sure I can come up with others as well.

 

DemoHack

(90 posts)
17. Biden can *metaphorically* punch Trump in the face.
Fri May 25, 2018, 10:36 AM
May 2018

It is my opinion of course, that, that will need to be an essential trait of our nominee.

Booker...s'alright. Harris...great AG. She gets elected to the Senate and immediately starts running for president.

Murphy, Merkley, Swalwell, Moulton, Gillibrand, Warren.... neeeeeeh.

Tim Ryan? Steve Bullock? Maybe. Remember, "punch him in the face."

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
21. Biden is definitely good at that
Fri May 25, 2018, 10:47 AM
May 2018

He deflated Rudy Giuliani years back by saying that all he was is "A Noun, A Verb and 9/11"

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
27. Harris was a great AG?
Fri May 25, 2018, 11:58 AM
May 2018

I have an issue with her regarding her decision on OneWest Bank. And may I point out that if she had gone after it/them, we probably wouldn't have Mnuchin at Treasury. We have to kill cockroaches as we can, even when there are more out there.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
23. My vote is for Joe Kennedy.
Fri May 25, 2018, 11:12 AM
May 2018

He brings with him a heritage of service, sacrifice in addition to youth. I think Biden is magnificent, but I am for a younger man with knowledge of the younger people who must take control of the nation. I firmly believe that our country faces a threat of authoritarianism coupled with the oligarchs. Trump and his cadre are testing the climate with near dictatorial pronouncements and total disregard for the separation of powers. They are totally disregarding the authority of congress and using its lackeys for their own perpose.

awesomerwb1

(4,267 posts)
29. Love Swalwell
Fri May 25, 2018, 12:09 PM
May 2018

He's smart, articulate and he's not afraid to take on anyone.

He should be one of the faces of the party. Officially and not unofficially.

"Cons": he's very young (only 37 I believe) and "still" in the House.

I like Ted Lieu (49) as well. If you guys ever have the chance to watch him speak, do it. He's funny, articulate and fearless.


duforsure

(11,885 posts)
22. I agree
Fri May 25, 2018, 10:49 AM
May 2018

I would support Biden or any Dem candidate , but we need a younger candidate, and one with more progressive policies, not like under President Obama that he didn't have. Possibly hurt Hillary also by not having better policies that Bernie's voters backed.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
26. What I wonder is why Clinton didn't get him to run with her as vicepresident.
Fri May 25, 2018, 11:58 AM
May 2018

Maybe he declined or was never asked. But I think that it would have been a sure win ticket.

Gamecock Lefty

(700 posts)
6. notdarkyet, I love Swalwell, too!!!
Fri May 25, 2018, 09:48 AM
May 2018

I love lefties not afraid to mince words. Swalwell is one. Also love Chris Murphy out of CT.

The Blue Flower

(5,439 posts)
7. Governor Jay Inslee of WA state is my favorite
Fri May 25, 2018, 10:01 AM
May 2018

A proven progressive in Congress before he became governor. Does not back down when fighting for his values.

 

DemoHack

(90 posts)
11. Inslee intrigues me, but "tough against a bully" ...
Fri May 25, 2018, 10:23 AM
May 2018

...is -strangely- one of the traits our candidate will need most. I like the B's - Biden, Bullock, Brown, Bustos, and Booker.

Aristus

(66,307 posts)
15. Me too!
Fri May 25, 2018, 10:33 AM
May 2018

A Biden-Inslee ticket would be incredible!

I would like to Kamala Harris somewhere on the ticket, though.

Bottom line: I'm voting Democratic in November and in 2020. If the Devil himself wants to try to prevent me from voting, he's gonna need to pack a lunch, that's all I'm saying.

True Blue American

(17,982 posts)
18. An Inslee- Biden
Fri May 25, 2018, 10:38 AM
May 2018

Would be better but can Joe run again for VP?

I like all the ones I have read, combined they would be Power House!

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
31. Hell, I'd VOTE for the devil himself over any Rethug for President...
Fri May 25, 2018, 12:18 PM
May 2018

if that was my only choice... couldn't do any worse!!

 

DemoHack

(90 posts)
9. Biden can beat Trump; I'm not sure about most of the 30-40 others.
Fri May 25, 2018, 10:21 AM
May 2018

Diamond Joe is my candidate! I love this guy. He is THE dude to beat Trump: authentic, tough, intelligent, charming.

Booker, Harris, Warren, Gillibrand, Castro, Sanders- ain't happening. We MUST win.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
33. I'm not sure who I want yet, but we definitely need someone with fire!
Fri May 25, 2018, 12:24 PM
May 2018

We need a fighter. I like everything about Biden. He's a little long in the tooth, but if he ran with a younger, dynamic VP candidate it could work.

elleng

(130,825 posts)
35. Thanks, DemoHack; I tend to agree,
Fri May 25, 2018, 12:42 PM
May 2018

but won't go so far as to say the others you mention 'ain't happening.'

Yes, we MUST win!

authentic, tough, intelligent, charming!!!

 

DemoHack

(90 posts)
38. I'm a nerd!
Fri May 25, 2018, 04:32 PM
May 2018

I keep track of everyone making trips to Iowa and New Hampshire.

What I like about Biden is, he unites us. I haven't met, well, any Dems so far who aren't fans of Joe.

Be on the watch for MT Gov. Steve Bullock and IL Rep. Cheri Bustos... very formidable in my opinion. The two Ohioans, Tim Ryan and Sherrod Brown, are strong too.

I won't slander any possible candidates. I think I like at least something about all friggin 70 of them who seem like they have expressed interest! I only have a serious problem with one... I will absolutely vote for the DEMOCRATIC nominee though. I emphasize that word for a reason...

BannonsLiver

(16,342 posts)
37. He will be formidable
Fri May 25, 2018, 02:14 PM
May 2018

There are still plenty of people out there who have remained loyal to the obama vision for the country and who count joe as a big part of that.

greymattermom

(5,754 posts)
24. I love Biden doing this
Fri May 25, 2018, 11:25 AM
May 2018

He can say what he means and keep the topic of conversation going. Let them try to find dirt on him, then let someone else be the actual candidate. I hope that's what the plan is.

 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
28. Love Love Love Joe I say a Biden/KennedyIII ticket
Fri May 25, 2018, 11:59 AM
May 2018

Let Biden "train up" Kennedy


Biden doesn't take shit from anyone! Love him


AND he knows what it is like to suffer like the rest of us. He has had more than his share.

Caliman73

(11,726 posts)
30. "This is not your father's Republican Party"
Fri May 25, 2018, 12:10 PM
May 2018

That is a funny line. I was born in the 70's and remember growing up in the 80's under Reagan. My dad was a Republican, mainly because Nixon had gotten the US out of the war, and his treachery in stopping Johnson from doing it sooner had not been revealed yet. Reagan was a "feel good" president. After the bloody noses of Vietnam and the Oil Embargo, where the US was not feeling like a Superpower, Reagan came along and blew sunshine up our asses. In the meantime, that wolf in sheep's clothing was gutting the New Deal, shifting the tax burden from those who gained most from the economy, to those who actually produced the goods and used them to grow the economy. He began the "Borrow and Spend" mentality while attacking Democrats for "Tax & Spend".

So my response to Biden (who I like) is. "It most certainly is my father's Republican Party!!" Trump is the cartoonish embodiment of the only place where the Republican Party, transformed by Reagan, could have ended up. Hyper-partisan, jingoistic, greedy, demeaning to Labor, demeaning to women, demeaning to immigrants, in bed with the wealthy. That is EXACTLY what the Republican party was in the 70's and 80's and what it is now. Biden remembers fighting with people like Jack Kemp and Bob Dole, then going out for cocktails afterword, which is why the nostalgia. However, people like Gingrich, Hastert, DeLay, Ryan, Boehner, McConnell, Rove, and Cheney took the Republican party to its logical end... a greedy, nationalistic, megalomaniac like Trump, who plays on fear and contempt to gain the support of scared White people.

That is the Republican Party I remember as a kid.

oasis

(49,365 posts)
34. As VP, Biden had an exceptional support staff. I have no doubt
Fri May 25, 2018, 12:32 PM
May 2018

he'll be surrounded by the best our party has to offer, once he announces.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
39. Thanks Joe...I needed that. I really needed that.
Sat May 26, 2018, 03:32 AM
May 2018

I'm really discouraged and depressed about my city, my state, my country, and the world as a whole. Your words gave me a recharge of faith. God, I needed that!!

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
41. "Your father's Republican Party" was also awful
Sat May 26, 2018, 04:07 AM
May 2018

I don't really agree with this notion that Republicans used to be fine and dandy until Trump came along.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
42. Me neither. Trump is a monster 50 years in the making.
Sat May 26, 2018, 04:51 AM
May 2018

50 years of Southern Strategy/dog whistling, race-based voter suppression, a successful "liberal media" campaign (resulting in a pathetic infotainment industry that won't call facts facts and falsehoods falsehoods, while promoting false equivalencies), Moral Majority bullshit, science denial, etc.

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