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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDavid Simon creator of The Wire tweets about immigration and ICE
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Do you understand how much of a nazi you have to be to pull a frightened, crying child away from a mother, offering no reassurance or explanation of when the child will see that mother again? And then wake up, go to work, and do it again? Be ashamed. We are the shithole nation.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)and not much different that Nazis stealing blond, blue-eyed Jew babies and placing them in the homes of "good Germans."
pazzyanne
(6,549 posts)vlyons is right, we have become a sh*hole nation that I no longer want to live in. I have been proud of my country and would not have wanted to live anywhere else, but I now wish I was younger because I would be applying for citizenship in a Scandinavian country. But I will stay, and continue the good fight in the hope that we can get our nation back. I don't think that I will live long enough to see that however, so I have to put my hope in people like students and other younger advocates. I can't do the heavy lifting any more, but will do what I can to help out.
bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)I'm 71 and have heart disease. So I can't go to Europe. However, I'm also a Buddhist. So I recognize that all things are imperminent and essentially empty of self-existence. When things get grim, we have more opportunities to practice compassion. Stay cheerful and don't fall into depression or indifference.
pazzyanne
(6,549 posts)There are times that I get down, but then the warrior in me reasserts itself and I throw myself into working to improve things. That has been the main purpose of my life. I have worked in the educational field the first 20 years of my life, 4 years in promoting the environment through outdoor programing for GSUSA, and the next 30 years working with people with developmental disabilities. All the while, I worked to make lives better by volunteering in a variety of human and animal rights. I am not a quitter and people like you give me fuel for the fight.
PatSeg
(47,400 posts)covered this last night and the stories were chilling. As a mother and a grandmother, this stories are my worst nightmare. I cannot begin to imagine what kind of people can do this for a living.
bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)It is horrifying and cruel.
PatSeg
(47,400 posts)I am afraid to ask, what will these people do next? What kind of people do such things and even worse, what kind of people support it?
tblue37
(65,336 posts)families, selling children away from their parents, and Native American children were taken from their families and sent to boarding schools for forced "assimilation." At those schools they were abused, starved, forced to work, hard labor, for nothing, and not given adequate care to prevent many from dying of disease, cold, and hunger. Of those who ran away, many died.
When a marginalized, oppressed population is viewed as less than human, the dominant population allows them to be treated the way livestock is treated. The demonization of immigrants by Trump and his sycophants and enablers leads many to tell themselves such evil policies are actually necessary to protect their terrified, xenophobic asses.
PatSeg
(47,400 posts)Indigenous children torn from their families and educated to be more like white people, which did not improve them or their lives. It just made them fit to be servants for the white folks who legally kidnapped them.
It seems to be fairly universal, but I suppose that we had thought or hoped our society was evolving. It appears we are backsliding rapidly.
TimeSnowDemos
(476 posts)The US has a long history of killing or helping kill women and children... It was just out of sight, out of mind.
And sure, we're helping starve MILLIONS of women and children in Yemen.. But they're brown and poor so who cares I guess.
The US watched the Saudis, with US weapons and support, bomb not one but TWO pediatric hospitals in Yemen and their response? Selling them billions more in weapons, helping the Saudis cover up their crimes in the UN, and fear mongering about Iran to justify mass murder of civilians.
Which is the same MO as during the Cold War.
It's hard for me to take the concern of many Americans very seriously when they've chosen to remain ignorant or chosen to justify much worse for generations.
And in THAT context, this is utterly predictable.
A reminder as well that Sheriff Arpaio refused to investigate HUNDREDS of child rapes because... Dun dun dun... The parents of the raped children were brown.
And that guy is a HERO to millions of Americans.
How in this context is ANYONE shocked at what ICE is up too. These kids are lucky that worse hasn't happened to them.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)Mark my words.
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)That makes this practice go from merely absolutely despicable to monstrous beyond imagination.
TheBlackAdder
(28,183 posts).
They still supported them, but Pearl Harbor made them shut the fuck up.
This is no different, except that now, instead of Hitler and Stalin, it's Putin.
One day, Putin is going to overstep his bounds or start a conflict, and only then will these people STFU.
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Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)They will be crawling, broken and bleeding, through the radioactive rubble, muttering curses and swearing revenge on Hillary and Obama.
raven mad
(4,940 posts)Yellow armbands edged in black. I'd wear it. Can't sew at all but would buy.
SOLIDARITY. RESIST!
And do NOT forget to laugh and live, enjoy and pay it forward.
Jim__
(14,075 posts)Part of the blame for these atrocities has to fall on the people actually performing the actions. We are all responsible for what we do.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)@AKent30
A professor at Berkeley distilled fascism as the mobilization of viciousness. Trump encapsulates the power in this: when law, ideally a safeguard against chaos, becomes vicious, then compassion loses its political voice, eventually becoming a weakness to nationalistic greatness
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