White guys who were home-schooled by Christian conservatives keep killing people

[Quixote1818]

Lack of prayer wasn’t the problem for these three mass murderers.

Just last week, a 29-year-old white male from Illinois shot up a Waffle House in Nashville, Tennessee killing four people. A motive has still not been identified, but it is likely that racism was a factor.

Last month, a 23-year-old white male from Texas terrorized the Austin community when he left bombs on people’s porches killing 2 men and injuring several other people. His motive for the bombings was race related.


And also last month, a 28-year-old white male from Wisconsin destroyed himself and an apartment building when he accidentally blew himself up in his homemade bomb lab that contained 13 jars of a highly explosive liquid. As white supremacist literature was found in the rubble of his apartment, it can be assumed that he had racist intentions for using those bombs.

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[Ohiogal]

1. Thank you for this.

I'm so tired of hearing right-wing talking heads saying that "if only there was more God and religion in school" these school shootings would never happen. Now I can arm myself with some facts if I ever find myself in a position to counter anyone.

[Crutchez_CuiBono]

2. If I were a "mom"

Id go to the internet, or church for a lesson plan....if they're even that sophisticated. The doctine is out there somewhere, that is being "taught"-and I mean that loosely generally. Backed up by FN noise and intentional disinformation and confusion.The only reason this is tolerated as ok is bc the right screams that a fact based station like cnn or msnbc is called 'the liberal media'. In pursuit of that end they wrong justify in their self centered heads, that an "alt news source is AOK. All in the name of fairness'...in a game THEY made up with bluster and division, FOR 30 YEARS. There's a reason foreign nations ban fox news. Bc it's dangerous to their ways of thinking...i.e...right from wrong kinda stuff.

[samnsara]

3. they never learned how to play well with others

[dameatball]

4. I don't think it is entirely the "act"of home schooling. You have to add in the fact......

….that one of the main (not only) reasons the parent makes the decision to home school is because the "anti-them" message has been ingrained in them and passed on to the child already. Isolation reinforces that concept. That is why I am glad that many (most?) home schooled children are at least exposed to others through sports/cultural events at schools.

[cyclonefence]

5. I think you're right

These people self-selected to home school, for their own reasons. It's not the home-schooling itself that's causing the problem, it's the underlying feeling that prompts the move to home-schooling in these cases.

That said, I wish there were better supervision of home-schooling because so many damaged people--a minority, I'm sure--are drawn to it, leading in some cases to outbreaks of measles and other avoidable diseases, brutal physical discipline and god only knows what else.

[meadowlander]

8. I think it is the home schooling that is causing the problem, regardless of the why.

The point of public school is that society can't function without a well educated citizenry with a shared, defined set of civic values such as respect for the rule of law, equal protection under the law, freedom of the press and everyone getting a fair shot in life no matter who their parents are. The purpose of school is to expose children to those values.

If you take children out of public school you hamstring their lifelong ability to participate meaningfully in a democracy. Whether you do it because you don't want your kids indoctrinated in right wing or left wing propaganda, or you are afraid the school isn't good enough for your kind of people, or you don't want your kid mingling with those kinds of people or you don't want your kid bullied you are infringing on your child's basic human right to a public education with their peers. If you don't agree with what the school is teaching, then that is an opportunity to teach your kid critical thinking skills or civil disobedience. If the school isn't "good enough" send your kid there and make it better. If you remove them because you are afraid for their safety then you are teaching them that the correct response to being threatened or abused is to hide and pretend the bullies of the world don't exist. Those are not excuses to withdraw your child from the body politic.

Unless the only available school is more than an hour away, the government should not be allowing people to homeschool their kids (or, frankly, send them to private school).

The rightwing homeschooling movement is absolutely rife with abuse - not just physical but also mental, in the form of brainwashing, and economic, in the form of extracting free child labor (farmwork, child care, etc.)

We should be drawing a line in the sand with these people for the sake of their kids who do have a right to a real education and a productive future as a member of society.

[cyclonefence]

9. I don't disagree with a word you say

It's just that the point I was agreeing with looked at home-schooling-as-a-cause-of-mass-murder not as a direct causal relationship--not post hoc propter hoc but rather because some people who are interested in home-school do so for reasons that would predispose to mass murder; i.e. a feeling of outsiderness or victimization or alienation from the larger society. I think that feeling of wanting or needing to home school for psychologically unsound reasons is more dangerous than the home schooling itself.

And much as I despise home schooling, for many of the reasons you cite, there have been situations where home schooling produced wonderful results, much better than could be achieved by keeping the child in public schools. But these are the rare exceptions.

[B2G]

6. Welp that explains the school shootings.

[Initech]

7. Yup - instructed by god and fueled by hatred.

The sad thing is that the media will never report this aspect of mass murder. They wouldn't want to offend "the base".