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Wed May 30, 2018, 09:40 AM

If Trump were to lose FOX, his base would collapse.

And there are some cracks beginning to appear in FOX's reporting in the last couple of days. Judge Napolitano, a FOX regular, and Shep Smith, a longtime host, have both been supportive of the FBI and the legal process. Yesterday, Trey Gowdy let it be known that the "Spy-gate" was a big nothing burger. If this chasm grows larger, it would be a huge problem for the trump.

We can only hope that enough of the propagandists at FOX will see that the truth is something different from what they have been reporting for the last year and a half about Donald Trump. If that happens, Donald Trump cannot survive.

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Reply If Trump were to lose FOX, his base would collapse. (Original post)
kentuck May 2018 OP
TalenaGor May 2018 #1
bearsfootball516 May 2018 #2
cungar2000 May 2018 #19
Fred Sanders May 2018 #22
calimary May 2018 #23
DownriverDem May 2018 #30
NewJeffCT May 2018 #31
Dave Starsky May 2018 #32
amywalk May 2018 #43
samnsara May 2018 #44
DBoon May 2018 #3
The Wielding Truth May 2018 #37
RKP5637 May 2018 #4
ooky May 2018 #13
RKP5637 May 2018 #17
CrispyQ May 2018 #38
renate May 2018 #29
RKP5637 May 2018 #40
FakeNoose May 2018 #36
Chipper Chat May 2018 #5
HopeAgain May 2018 #6
Botany May 2018 #7
kentuck May 2018 #11
Still In Wisconsin May 2018 #8
olegramps May 2018 #39
brooklynite May 2018 #9
Skidmore May 2018 #10
BSdetect May 2018 #12
oasis May 2018 #14
ProudMNDemocrat May 2018 #15
kentuck May 2018 #16
calimary May 2018 #25
kentuck May 2018 #47
tparrett62 May 2018 #18
Fred Sanders May 2018 #20
Scruffy1 May 2018 #21
maryellen99 May 2018 #24
calimary May 2018 #27
True Blue American May 2018 #26
beachbum bob May 2018 #28
Texin May 2018 #33
awesomerwb1 May 2018 #34
NewJeffCT May 2018 #35
greymattermom May 2018 #41
sandensea May 2018 #42
Sunlei May 2018 #45
duforsure May 2018 #46
EndGOPPropaganda May 2018 #48

Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 09:41 AM

1. I think it's more important that fox loses their base that takes care of both things LOL

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 09:47 AM

2. Shep Smith has long been critical of Trump

I don't think he's a conservative. I think he's their token liberal that FOX can use to claim they're Fair and Balanced.

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Reply #2)

Wed May 30, 2018, 10:56 AM

19. Imagine the behind the scenes chatter about Shep in the Fox corporate office

 

A gay, left leaning chicken in the Fox house.

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Response to cungar2000 (Reply #19)

Wed May 30, 2018, 11:10 AM

22. Sheep is the "balanced" 5 hours a week. The rest of the 150 hours is pure hate speech and lies

and cult maintenance.

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Response to cungar2000 (Reply #19)

Wed May 30, 2018, 11:12 AM

23. Welcome to DU, cungar2000!

They probably have a stash of antacids with his name on them in the cabinet in the executive suites' coffee lounge.

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Reply #2)

Wed May 30, 2018, 11:20 AM

30. Maybe so but

a change in who is running Fox might be what is happening too.

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Reply #2)

Wed May 30, 2018, 11:24 AM

31. I don't think he's a liberal

he's more of an old school moderate Republican

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #31)

Wed May 30, 2018, 11:28 AM

32. If he were really a liberal, he wouldn't be working for Fox.

He would have died of a bleeding ulcer by now.

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Reply #2)

Wed May 30, 2018, 12:25 PM

43. Shep Smith has long been critical of Trump

I donít think Shep is a liberal, but he does seem to believe in truth telling in his profession. I remember when he was down in New Orleans a few days after Katrina hit. As Bush was out golfing, brush clearing in Texas and telling Brownie what a heckava job he was doing, Shep was there reporting from ground zero. He was bringing horrific sights and scenes from the Superdome and the 9th Ward. After a week or so, listening to his network spew lies about the facts on the ground, he exploded with rage. He screamed into the cameras for Bush to basically get his ass to Louisiana. I will always be grateful to him for that.

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Reply #2)

Wed May 30, 2018, 12:25 PM

44. i like Shep!! I have such an aversion to FOX that I keep forgetting to watch Sheps program..

..i need an alarm or something.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 09:47 AM

3. If FOX were to lose Trump

Their viewership would collapse

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Response to DBoon (Reply #3)

Wed May 30, 2018, 11:36 AM

37. They would just find another racist bigoted greedy lying soulless fool and build him a following.

It's subversive anti-democratic propaganda. It should be illegal to push lies over a mass media platform.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 09:48 AM

4. What is Rupert Murdoch's agenda? Is it just to make money or something more. He has changed the

face of this US, yet few that I know of ask why.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #4)

Wed May 30, 2018, 10:00 AM

13. The bottom line of the people pushing the whole damn Trumplican movement is about money.

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Response to ooky (Reply #13)

Wed May 30, 2018, 10:10 AM

17. The country is turning into a pathetic place. Everything, just about everything

centers on money.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #17)

Wed May 30, 2018, 11:37 AM

38. You were right the first time - everything centers on money.

We no longer hold that it's immoral to profit from some things, & leading the top of the list, IMO, is the locking up of our fellow citizens. What kind of society lets a private corporation profit from that? The list goes on & on from there, but that one item speaks volumes about us as a country.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #4)

Wed May 30, 2018, 11:18 AM

29. could Putin have something on him, too?

It's probably just the money, but I wonder. Putin must have something on Nunes and probably McConnell, but the grand prize would be Murdoch. From him all right-wing brainwashing comes.

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Response to renate (Reply #29)

Wed May 30, 2018, 11:56 AM

40. He is definitly the major epicenter for it all IMO. n/t

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #4)

Wed May 30, 2018, 11:32 AM

36. As long as he has advertisers he doesn't care

If the sponsors decide to leave him, like they did for Bill O'Reilly and a few others, then he might make a change of some kind. It's all about the ad revenues. That's why boycotting the sponsors is effective, but it needs to be used sparingly.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 09:48 AM

5. if this happens

Fox will order Aaron to start fashioning "the Golden Pence."

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 09:49 AM

6. Fox might be cracking for Trump,

but that's only because they are beginning to see the writing on the wall. Fox is still is, and will always be squarely in the hands of the religious right, the right wing extremists and the American Oligarchs.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 09:51 AM

7. Fox and Trump are pretty much the same thing and they both scratch the same itches ....

.... that to the racist, evangelical, anti science, and anti change voter and that touch feels
good so good to them.

Trump could be outed with audio tapes of him making deals with Russia to rig the election
and his core base of dumb asses would still be loyal to him. Hell, he goes to WV and lies
to their faces about coal mining and the old style steel mills coming back and they hoot
and dollar for Trump and chant "lock her up."

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Response to Botany (Reply #7)

Wed May 30, 2018, 09:54 AM

11. The entire FOX Network will never split from Trump, in my opinion, but...

...it only takes a few to create havoc and division amongst the tribe. It doesn't have to be all of them.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 09:52 AM

8. I wonder, who needs who more?

 

Without the President of the United States pimping Fox on Twitter every ten minutes, I wonder how Fox would be doing? Maybe they'd be fine, but it's an interesting question I think.

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Response to Still In Wisconsin (Reply #8)

Wed May 30, 2018, 11:39 AM

39. It is a symbiotic relationship that provides them the common goal of money.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 09:52 AM

9. Completely disagree...

...Fox doesn't MAKE people conservative, it just reinforces their existing beliefs. If Fox disappeared tomorrow, they'd just gravitate to OAN or NewsMax.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 09:54 AM

10. Specifically,

Hannity needs to be brought down.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 09:56 AM

12. FOX can switch or pivot when the time is ripe to fleece a different demographic.

Just by changing the brand name to Pravda perhaps.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 10:03 AM

14. Even the dense Fox folks know when to leave a sinking ship. nt

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 10:05 AM

15. Those at MSNBC and CNN have been calling out FOX for their propoganda and lies...



Which is good to see. They stress that people who believe everything that come out of Tucker's, Piro's, and Hannity's mouth are suckers. People gullible enough to be conned.

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Response to ProudMNDemocrat (Reply #15)

Wed May 30, 2018, 10:10 AM

16. Important point.

Trump likes to brand people. The people should brand him as a "LIAR". It is a brand that will stick because it happens to be true.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #16)

Wed May 30, 2018, 11:14 AM

25. Well, that's OUR job, kentuck.

We can't let up on that. It's WE who should generate that drumbeat, and keep it going so it catches on.

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Response to calimary (Reply #25)

Wed May 30, 2018, 01:58 PM

47. I hear you.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 10:18 AM

18. Trump lost FOX during the primaries, and his base left FOX, not Trump

One of the reasons Megyn Kelly ended up at NBC after landing that plum 9 PM slot- the Trump base hated her after she "went after" Trump. If FOX turns on Trump, the base will decry them as RINOs, secret lefties, and supporters of the "Deep State". They will follow him over the cliff, even when FOX sees the writing on the wall. Complete cognitive dissonance.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 11:08 AM

20. Yesterday Fox's best new lawyer buddy, strange man, said he was "half way there" on NOT

believing Trump on LieGate...isn't law fun when you need no evidence to half believe a total lie?

Derkowitz is a professor of law?? Professor? What the fuck do you teach?

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 11:10 AM

21. Fox will die.

Their demographics are awful. Whenever the evil Rupert goes away, it will morph into something else. The whole of the MSM is guilty as hell. They all had their hand in the normalizing of the Orange one. The few dissenters on Fox are part of the plan to make them appear trustworthy. I trust none of the media.

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Response to Scruffy1 (Reply #21)

Wed May 30, 2018, 11:12 AM

24. There's also OAN as well- They are more RW than Fox nt

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Response to maryellen99 (Reply #24)

Wed May 30, 2018, 11:15 AM

27. And don't forget the lovely Sinclair Broadcasting people.

They're insidious.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 11:14 AM

26. Derschowitz

Actually said that? Boy, that wall is cracking fast.

Even Bornowitz said Trump wrote his own health evaluation! Next comes Ronny Jackson. You know the pill supplier and drunk?

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 11:16 AM

28. Murdoch will never allow it to happen

 

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 11:30 AM

33. They'd just get their Shitler fix from listening to AM radio.

Murdoch is no personal fan of tRump. He always viewed him as a grasping, bombastic, do-nothing narcissist, and tRump spent a huge portion of his time trying to impress Murdoch. I believe Fox is only good for the Murdoch brand as long as their ratings stay consistent, but they'd drop kick tRump's ass if they believe he is more of a liability than an asset and, frankly, I think a lot of rethugs are secretly beginning to question whether they can continue to allow tRump to ride roughshod over the rethug party without suffering permanent brand ruination.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 11:30 AM

34. Why do Dems underestimate the survival powers

of the "conservatives" (faaar right these days)??

Stop making the same mistake. Faux news will have days where they may sound somewhat realistic but they will reset back to "normal" within hours, or a day or two tops.

Their audience panic votes at a high rate and since a lot of them are unemployed (by choice) or retired, they have the time to make calls to legislators all day long.

Do not trust republicans, ever.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 11:31 AM

35. Shep seems to go off script

about once a month or so.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 11:59 AM

41. There are some things that folks need to make money

and Trump hasn't done what he said he would do. Businesses need dams that don't burst, regular supplies of water, roads that trucks can drive on, upgraded airports. They got their tax break, now they want some projects.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 12:16 PM

42. That's why Reagan created right-wing, state media.

It must have been the first time he had heard of Goebbels and Bernays.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 12:26 PM

45. he won't 'lose' foxTV they adjust to how much support trump needs- even got rid of

those who 'worked on' his vices during the campaigns like that old lecher man & the other sexual predators. fox split off the movies part of fox in order to more closely follow the republicans propaganda agenda.

Republican party and their stateTV fox- will always back their president.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 12:56 PM

46. Maybe not,

They would allow Sinclair to expand a lot more , and overwhelm many more markets.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Wed May 30, 2018, 06:42 PM

48. Absolutely. To help: wear this stuff

Reaching Fox voters is a way to weaken the president, until we can vote in 2018.

Good sources of progressive messaging apparel:

https://maddogpac.com/


https://weprotectthetruth.com/

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