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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf Trump were to lose FOX, his base would collapse.
And there are some cracks beginning to appear in FOX's reporting in the last couple of days. Judge Napolitano, a FOX regular, and Shep Smith, a longtime host, have both been supportive of the FBI and the legal process. Yesterday, Trey Gowdy let it be known that the "Spy-gate" was a big nothing burger. If this chasm grows larger, it would be a huge problem for the trump.
We can only hope that enough of the propagandists at FOX will see that the truth is something different from what they have been reporting for the last year and a half about Donald Trump. If that happens, Donald Trump cannot survive.
TalenaGor
(1,103 posts)bearsfootball516
(6,369 posts)I don't think he's a conservative. I think he's their token liberal that FOX can use to claim they're Fair and Balanced.
cungar2000
(98 posts)A gay, left leaning chicken in the Fox house.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)and cult maintenance.
calimary
(80,700 posts)They probably have a stash of antacids with his name on them in the cabinet in the executive suites' coffee lounge.
DownriverDem
(6,206 posts)a change in who is running Fox might be what is happening too.
NewJeffCT
(56,827 posts)he's more of an old school moderate Republican
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)He would have died of a bleeding ulcer by now.
amywalk
(254 posts)I dont think Shep is a liberal, but he does seem to believe in truth telling in his profession. I remember when he was down in New Orleans a few days after Katrina hit. As Bush was out golfing, brush clearing in Texas and telling Brownie what a heckava job he was doing, Shep was there reporting from ground zero. He was bringing horrific sights and scenes from the Superdome and the 9th Ward. After a week or so, listening to his network spew lies about the facts on the ground, he exploded with rage. He screamed into the cameras for Bush to basically get his ass to Louisiana. I will always be grateful to him for that.
samnsara
(17,570 posts)..i need an alarm or something.
DBoon
(22,288 posts)Their viewership would collapse
The Wielding Truth
(11,411 posts)It's subversive anti-democratic propaganda. It should be illegal to push lies over a mass media platform.
RKP5637
(67,032 posts)face of this US, yet few that I know of ask why.
ooky
(8,887 posts)RKP5637
(67,032 posts)centers on money.
CrispyQ
(36,231 posts)We no longer hold that it's immoral to profit from some things, & leading the top of the list, IMO, is the locking up of our fellow citizens. What kind of society lets a private corporation profit from that? The list goes on & on from there, but that one item speaks volumes about us as a country.
renate
(13,776 posts)It's probably just the money, but I wonder. Putin must have something on Nunes and probably McConnell, but the grand prize would be Murdoch. From him all right-wing brainwashing comes.
RKP5637
(67,032 posts)FakeNoose
(32,356 posts)If the sponsors decide to leave him, like they did for Bill O'Reilly and a few others, then he might make a change of some kind. It's all about the ad revenues. That's why boycotting the sponsors is effective, but it needs to be used sparingly.
Chipper Chat
(9,635 posts)Fox will order Aaron to start fashioning "the Golden Pence."
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)but that's only because they are beginning to see the writing on the wall. Fox is still is, and will always be squarely in the hands of the religious right, the right wing extremists and the American Oligarchs.
Botany
(70,291 posts).... that to the racist, evangelical, anti science, and anti change voter and that touch feels
good so good to them.
Trump could be outed with audio tapes of him making deals with Russia to rig the election
and his core base of dumb asses would still be loyal to him. Hell, he goes to WV and lies
to their faces about coal mining and the old style steel mills coming back and they hoot
and dollar for Trump and chant "lock her up."
kentuck
(110,950 posts)...it only takes a few to create havoc and division amongst the tribe. It doesn't have to be all of them.
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)Without the President of the United States pimping Fox on Twitter every ten minutes, I wonder how Fox would be doing? Maybe they'd be fine, but it's an interesting question I think.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)brooklynite
(93,873 posts)...Fox doesn't MAKE people conservative, it just reinforces their existing beliefs. If Fox disappeared tomorrow, they'd just gravitate to OAN or NewsMax.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)Hannity needs to be brought down.
BSdetect
(8,989 posts)Just by changing the brand name to Pravda perhaps.
oasis
(49,152 posts)ProudMNDemocrat
(16,485 posts)Which is good to see. They stress that people who believe everything that come out of Tucker's, Piro's, and Hannity's mouth are suckers. People gullible enough to be conned.
kentuck
(110,950 posts)Trump likes to brand people. The people should brand him as a "LIAR". It is a brand that will stick because it happens to be true.
calimary
(80,700 posts)We can't let up on that. It's WE who should generate that drumbeat, and keep it going so it catches on.
kentuck
(110,950 posts)tparrett62
(268 posts)One of the reasons Megyn Kelly ended up at NBC after landing that plum 9 PM slot- the Trump base hated her after she "went after" Trump. If FOX turns on Trump, the base will decry them as RINOs, secret lefties, and supporters of the "Deep State". They will follow him over the cliff, even when FOX sees the writing on the wall. Complete cognitive dissonance.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)believing Trump on LieGate...isn't law fun when you need no evidence to half believe a total lie?
Derkowitz is a professor of law?? Professor? What the fuck do you teach?
Scruffy1
(3,239 posts)Their demographics are awful. Whenever the evil Rupert goes away, it will morph into something else. The whole of the MSM is guilty as hell. They all had their hand in the normalizing of the Orange one. The few dissenters on Fox are part of the plan to make them appear trustworthy. I trust none of the media.
maryellen99
(3,782 posts)calimary
(80,700 posts)They're insidious.
True Blue American
(17,972 posts)Actually said that? Boy, that wall is cracking fast.
Even Bornowitz said Trump wrote his own health evaluation! Next comes Ronny Jackson. You know the pill supplier and drunk?
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)Texin
(2,585 posts)Murdoch is no personal fan of tRump. He always viewed him as a grasping, bombastic, do-nothing narcissist, and tRump spent a huge portion of his time trying to impress Murdoch. I believe Fox is only good for the Murdoch brand as long as their ratings stay consistent, but they'd drop kick tRump's ass if they believe he is more of a liability than an asset and, frankly, I think a lot of rethugs are secretly beginning to question whether they can continue to allow tRump to ride roughshod over the rethug party without suffering permanent brand ruination.
awesomerwb1
(4,256 posts)of the "conservatives" (faaar right these days)??
Stop making the same mistake. Faux news will have days where they may sound somewhat realistic but they will reset back to "normal" within hours, or a day or two tops.
Their audience panic votes at a high rate and since a lot of them are unemployed (by choice) or retired, they have the time to make calls to legislators all day long.
Do not trust republicans, ever.
NewJeffCT
(56,827 posts)about once a month or so.
greymattermom
(5,751 posts)and Trump hasn't done what he said he would do. Businesses need dams that don't burst, regular supplies of water, roads that trucks can drive on, upgraded airports. They got their tax break, now they want some projects.
sandensea
(21,530 posts)It must have been the first time he had heard of Goebbels and Bernays.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)those who 'worked on' his vices during the campaigns like that old lecher man & the other sexual predators. fox split off the movies part of fox in order to more closely follow the republicans propaganda agenda.
Republican party and their stateTV fox- will always back their president.
duforsure
(11,882 posts)They would allow Sinclair to expand a lot more , and overwhelm many more markets.
EndGOPPropaganda
(1,117 posts)Reaching Fox voters is a way to weaken the president, until we can vote in 2018.
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