Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
Wed May 30, 2018, 12:42 PM May 2018

How 'Roseanne' Had the Most Disastrous Endgame in TV History

One racist tweet later, TV's most popular show is no more – but the new 'Roseanne' had already done irreparable damage before that
By Rob Sheffield 4 hours ago RollingStone

Roseanne no longer holds the record for the ugliest endgame in TV history. The new champion is ... Roseanne. Back in 1997, America's favorite family flamed out with an "it was all a dream" final season that insulted any fan who ever loved the Conners. But then, like so many stories, this one got even nastier in 2018. Roseanne Barr, now a far-right pundit fond of racist tirades and conspiracy theories, rebooted the show, and Roseanne 2.0 shocked the industry in late March by blowing up into a ratings blockbuster – the biggest hit on TV.

Executive producer Wanda Sykes, who was just dandy with having her name in the opening credits until yesterday, defended the show this season, in strikingly lame terms. "Extreme anything is nuts," she told Metro Boston. "Extreme left is just as nuts as the extreme right. The only way that we're going to patch things up in this country is the people in the middle got to start talking to each other instead of just battling it out on Twitter." Note: She said this in April 2018, not October 2016. What kind of rabid both-sides apologist is still clinging to "just as nuts" equivalences at a time like this? A statement like this says a lot about how a disaster like Roseanne happened in the first place.


New Roseanne was designed to normalize the extreme right by presenting it as the safe middle. It did a good job with that. As the unflaggingly controversial Bill Maher warned a few years ago, it's pointless to suck up to the moderates on the other side, for one reason: "There are no moderates on the other side."

https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news/how-roseanne-had-the-most-disastrous-endgame-in-tv-history-w520879
14 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
How 'Roseanne' Had the Most Disastrous Endgame in TV History (Original Post) workinclasszero May 2018 OP
Melissa Gilbert was the main Wellstone ruled May 2018 #1
Sara Gilbert Blue_Adept May 2018 #2
Whew... clarification appreciated. nt procon May 2018 #4
Sorry had the Prairie on my mind. Wellstone ruled May 2018 #12
This BS about bringing the left and right together to 'talk' has got to end workinclasszero May 2018 #5
"It was all a dream" came from the old show Dallas FakeNoose May 2018 #3
Not the whole nine seasons, just that one. Bobby died in the previous season finale lunamagica May 2018 #6
OK your memory is better than mine FakeNoose May 2018 #7
... lunamagica May 2018 #11
Can we please end the "extreme left is the same as the extreme right" nonsense? Initech May 2018 #8
Totally agree! workinclasszero May 2018 #10
... CentralMass May 2018 #9
"Conners face ruin from a flood...touched President Trump's heart and he's sending them thousands... muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #13
Sent at the speed of Ben Carson lame54 May 2018 #14
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
1. Melissa Gilbert was the main
Wed May 30, 2018, 01:20 PM
May 2018

force behind this Show. And as Maher said,attempt to normalize . Gilbert has this idea she could bring the Fascist and the Fringe Viewers to the middle.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
5. This BS about bringing the left and right together to 'talk' has got to end
Wed May 30, 2018, 02:08 PM
May 2018

There is no accepting the racism, lies and anti-science of the GOP!

What happens every time is the normalization of republican fascism and the demonizing of liberalism which the new Rosanne show was all about.

FakeNoose

(32,579 posts)
3. "It was all a dream" came from the old show Dallas
Wed May 30, 2018, 01:41 PM
May 2018

Remember Dallas? The prime-time drama series about the J.R. Ewing family that ran all through the '80s? Bobby Ewing (J.R.'s brother) left the show but came back for the final cliff-hanger show where he "woke up" and realized the previous 9 seasons had all been a dream. None of that stuff really happened! Regular viewers felt so cheated by that cop-out that most people quit watching after that.

Roseanne made a spoof of that Dallas "It was all a dream" show as her final show, and I guess most people got the joke. Or they didn't, I don't really know. Roseanne had lost most of her viewers by that time and very few people even cared anymore.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
6. Not the whole nine seasons, just that one. Bobby died in the previous season finale
Wed May 30, 2018, 02:10 PM
May 2018

and a whole year went by where he was dead. Then in the last episode Pam wakes up to find Bobby in the shower. The whole year was nothing but Pam's dream.

And yes, the show could never recover from that.

Initech

(100,036 posts)
8. Can we please end the "extreme left is the same as the extreme right" nonsense?
Wed May 30, 2018, 02:21 PM
May 2018

We are *NOT* the ones who spout racist, sexist, homophobic bullshit and we are also not the ones who have baseless conspiracy theories like "the Storm" which Roseanne is a huge fan of. It's time for this shit to end now.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,265 posts)
13. "Conners face ruin from a flood...touched President Trump's heart and he's sending them thousands...
Wed May 30, 2018, 04:37 PM
May 2018

of dollars in FEMA money"

Seriously? That was the plotline? The show was a piece-of-shit bit of propaganda designed to make Trump look good? Fuck, everyone associated with it should have resigned when that script was OKed. Sitcoms aren't there to be North-Korean-style fellatio of Our Glorious Leader.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»How 'Roseanne' Had the Mo...