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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWell this sounds interesting! Avenatti's latest Tweet:
"I know for a fact that at least one, & likely many, of the #TrumpTapes contain Mr. Trumps voice. I know this from the work that we have done and through the assistance of true patriots. If I am wrong, Mr. Cohen and his atty should prove it. They cant and wont"
https://mobile.twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti?p=s
I've heard him say that his office is swamped with tips and information from people who want to share and give him leads. So here, in his tweet, he's acknowledging that "patriots" are "assisting". This is terrific news.
It appears to me that someone, somehow got these tapes to him. So now we can speculate whether there's incriminating evidence on them or not.
Interesting, history-making (also frightening ) times we're living in folks!
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)any crazy bullshit that t-rump and cronies can dish out . . .
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)He said the threats that he and Stormy get are beyond belief and he takes them VERY seriously.
He also said that there are two very believable women (that he's thoroughly vetted) that had sex and similar contracts with trump that have contacted him. One is scared to death and refuses to come forward and the other is "on the fence".
I can understand that. These are some very dangerous people capable of dangerous things involved with trump.
manor321
(3,344 posts)It is very interesting that there is at least one Trump tape. Probably means many more and prosecutors will be very interested in them. So am I.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)some here even whine about that. He is appreciated womewhat for enlarging and deepening the 'debate'. Less appreciated is how he takes left pressure to rush the investigation [used by the cons against Mueller] off of Mueller by providing dems with daily raw meat , to alleviate their 'needs', [and offset the daily trump bs deluge hogging the media spotlight]. Also, he provides law based, hard edged, pithy, penetrating, useful remarks, [which help counter soft media commentary like, 'President Trump sometimes pushes on ethical limits, etc. etc.']
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)One would presume it wouldn't be common knowledge, nor that either the court or the principals involved would have told him.
So -- ??
Any ideas?
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)Man, this is some intriguing stuff!
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)The best leakers, as we all know, are in the White House.
Uncle Joe
(58,349 posts)were in a Moscow hotel.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)So where and how in the hell did the reporter get the tape?
And bless that reporter's heart!
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)Cool. Yeah, now we have to figure out about the reporter.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)FakeNoose
(32,633 posts)There's probably way more info on those phones, maybe even saved messages etc. I'm sure that Cohen took no care to delete messages because he probably thought they'd never get the phones.
I've no idea if the tapes Avenatti is talking about are related to the cellphones, so I guess we have to wait and see.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)damaging information and all involved know this and its consequences. There are the lawyers involved, support staff, grand jurors and court personnel none of who have leaked. To me they all know that this is a moment in American History never seen before that a true traitor who cares nothing for our country occupies The White House. I think the lack of leaks tells us much about the Mueller investigation.
Delmette2.0
(4,164 posts)Cohen knows what Trump is like, he helped 45 screw people over for years. I think Cohen saved everything he could in case 45 turned against him.
erronis
(15,241 posts)Mopar151
(9,980 posts)Cohen is the kind of guy who's always a step behind, and thinks he's one ahead!
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)But I have no doubt the FBI will get into them!
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Not necessarily criminal
Bayard
(22,061 posts)I may have actually come away with something.
LittleGirl
(8,282 posts)He's got his strategy down pat. I admire people that can take on someone like the rump mob and make them fear for their life.
LOL. Bring it on!
thesquanderer
(11,986 posts)They can't prove Trump's voice is not on any tape without releasing every tape. So it's kind of silly to ask for this proof of a negative. It's just PR. {sigh} I hate silly distractions.
shanny
(6,709 posts)How often have we seen tRump unable to stfu? And how often has that inability added fuel to Mueller's fire?
onenote
(42,694 posts)This may not be a popular point of view here but:
First, it is hardly surprising that the search of Cohen's office would result in the seizure of recordings of phone conversations (or voicemail messages) from Trump. Trump and Cohen have had a long relationship and it would be far more surprising if there weren't recorded conversations. Many people now have voicemail technology that converts the message to a voice file and sends it to an email address; it wouldn't be surprising if Cohen had such a set up and had emails with voicemail messages on his computers. What matters is the substance of those messages/conversations.
Second, Avenatti hasn't said much about the substance of those conversations. It could be that he's holding back. It also could be that he doesn't know. And a third possibility is that he knows and the substance isn't particularly revealing of anything sinister.
Third, I have my doubts as to Avenatti's claims that he's getting a lot of information from "patriots" -- the number of folks with specific information about what was seized from Cohen's office is limited and I don't think they'd have much interest in taking the risk of communicating with Avenatti.
Eventually we will know. For the time being, I'm less excited by what Avenatti is dishing out than others seem to be.
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)All good points you made!
But whatever's going on with Avenatti and what he has or doesn't have, he's doing the best freakin' head-fake on BLOTUS that ANYONE ever has! It's masterful!
And for that, Mr. Avenatti gets a tip of my hat and I'd LOVE to get the chance to buy this man a beer!
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)It's hard not to get just a wee bit hopeful after watching this!
https://www.msnbc.com/the-beat-with-ari-melber/watch/avenatti-i-know-for-a-fact-cohen-has-a-tape-of-trump-1244978243644?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_ma
Pretty compelling interview. Man, this guy is as cool as a cucumber!
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)Meanwhile, the FBI is piecing together all the material they collected from his shredder bin! hahahaha
He's barely sleeping and not eating. He and his wife have each lost over 20 pounds and counting.
This thug is going down and BLOTUS is sweating and dangling pardons.