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Aristus

(66,316 posts)
Thu May 31, 2018, 02:07 PM May 2018

Sitting in a Starbuck's waiting for my car to be fixed.

Walked in on a group of old farts spewing conspiracy theories about the Middle East.

I parked myself as far from them as possible, so I didn't have to hear the bullshit.

I know our fellow liberals warn us against developing our own little information bubbles. But there's a difference between letting in substantive opposition, and letting in ludicrous nonsense.

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Sitting in a Starbuck's waiting for my car to be fixed. (Original Post) Aristus May 2018 OP
But did you buy a cup of coffee? B2G May 2018 #1
Oh yeah. Not taking any chances. Aristus May 2018 #2
+1 uponit7771 May 2018 #7
Funny how.. TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #3
Learning requires effort and an open mind. Aristus May 2018 #4
You say that, but TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #12
Starbucks fixes cars? GeorgeGist May 2018 #5
Yeah, wouldja believe it? Starbuck's: Not Just For Coffee Anymore... Aristus May 2018 #6
I'm at a Starbucks now. peabody May 2018 #8
The old farts are gone now. Aristus May 2018 #9
Good for you! peabody May 2018 #10
Yeah, Starbuck's has a good selection of teas. Aristus May 2018 #11
 

TimeSnowDemos

(476 posts)
3. Funny how..
Thu May 31, 2018, 02:18 PM
May 2018

So many Americans spend hours a day on conspiracies, but can't be bothered to learn their own country's history.

Aristus

(66,316 posts)
4. Learning requires effort and an open mind.
Thu May 31, 2018, 02:21 PM
May 2018

Believing, or promulgating, conspiracy theories requires no more effort than that required to run one's mouth with one's brain disengaged...

 

TimeSnowDemos

(476 posts)
12. You say that, but
Thu May 31, 2018, 03:28 PM
May 2018

If you spend any amount of time with conspiracy theories you discover they spend thousands of hours 'researching' their beliefs online. They generate videos and websites and social media accounts to spread their beliefs, and trapse the world's comments sections and messageboards to make sure their beliefs are seen by as many as possible.

Frankly it would be much easier for many people to learn facts than put all this effort into their 'alternative facts'.

And it seems to be unrelated to party or underlying ideology. Back in the 2000s the conspiracy sites were awash with left leaning 9/11 CTers. Then it was right leaning anti-Obama folks.

Now I see anti-Trump conspiracies here.

It's more than just laziness. It's a deep distrust of media and institutions, and a fear or far away bureaucrats, etc.

And of course governments don't help every time they choose to fight transparency, or hire lobbyists or extreme ideologues.

Aristus

(66,316 posts)
6. Yeah, wouldja believe it? Starbuck's: Not Just For Coffee Anymore...
Thu May 31, 2018, 02:38 PM
May 2018

Naw, Firestone is a couple of blocks down the street.

peabody

(445 posts)
8. I'm at a Starbucks now.
Thu May 31, 2018, 02:53 PM
May 2018

Luckily, no conspiracy talk around me. Just a lot of light friendly chatter and a lot of people looking down into their e-devices (as am I while I'm typing this). Very relaxing here with my cup of Comfort tea (highly recommended beverage).

peabody

(445 posts)
10. Good for you!
Thu May 31, 2018, 02:59 PM
May 2018

I hope you'll enjoy you time waiting on your car. It's so hard to find relaxing places to hang out nowadays so I'm really glad Starbucks is allowing people to sit there with or without purchasing something. Of course, I always do but that's just me; I love to drink all types of teas.

Aristus

(66,316 posts)
11. Yeah, Starbuck's has a good selection of teas.
Thu May 31, 2018, 03:05 PM
May 2018

I rarely drink tea, but it's nice to know that it's there if I want it.

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