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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI'm a veteran, and if you think I served so that football players...
brush
(53,743 posts)notdarkyet
(2,226 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Tipperary
(6,930 posts)No, this is not the op, but this op posts a lot of noteworthy ops.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)xeodtech
(79 posts)Rural_Progressive
(1,105 posts)I'm something like the 7th or 8th generation in my family to serve. Dad received the Silver Star in WWII and I know he'd agree with Dan on this matter.
None of us, going back to the early 19th century, served so Donnie O, or anyone of his ilk, could turn this country into a fully owned subsidiary of ANY foreign power.
unblock
(52,126 posts)really, if we didn't know damn well it was just a distraction tactic, we'd have to say it's completely idiotic to:
(a) interpret kneeling as a sign of disrespect (on the contrary, it's *respectful* in any other circumstance, such as when proposing or praying or getting knighted) and also
(b) then go the extra derivative step of interpreting a perceived offense against the anthem and/or the flag as an affront to veterans. the anthem and the flag belong to all of us. veterans have no special claim to it.
geardaddy
(24,926 posts)Cool.
unblock
(52,126 posts)Thanks for the link!
demigoddess
(6,640 posts)Maybe the whole audience should kneel too. They would not throw out paying customers, would they??
ps my father and stepfather both fought in wars, they would not expect the players to give up kneeling.
Toorich
(391 posts)...Huah...
Different Drummer
(7,606 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,604 posts)Aristus
(66,294 posts)KG
(28,751 posts)There's a strange collapse of logic, isn't there?
Of course, if Trump had his way, his critics would be either bankrupted or jailed.
magicarpet
(14,122 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,385 posts)a big hooah, hooyah, oohrah, or what ever they were always yelling in the Cavalry to Dan Currie jr on this one.
Armymedic88
(251 posts)Rene
(1,183 posts)njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)Seems like the biggest, loudest, and most vociferous shit throwers are draft dodgers and chicken hawks such as Trump, Savage, Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Hannity, etc..
sarge43
(28,940 posts)MrScorpio
(73,630 posts)Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)His opinion is that players SHOULD be taking a knee until the targeting of black citizens by the police ends. By the way, Dad was a cop after leaving the Marine Corps.
kairos12
(12,843 posts)N_E_1 for Tennis
(9,664 posts)Initech
(100,041 posts)onethatcares
(16,163 posts)did it to support the Constitution of the United States of America. I join with Don
magicarpet
(14,122 posts).... but failed to take that oath as seriously.
Don the Con and Don the Vet are two very different men - one is an Authoritarian Fascist the other a patriot who respects what this country really stand for.
onethatcares
(16,163 posts)there is a world of difference tween the two.
Did you get your handle from Steppenwolf?
magicarpet
(14,122 posts).... my great-grandfather willed me a magic carpet he brought from the old country. It really is quite the nice ride. I am trying to convert it from petrol to solar powered so it doesn't leave a slight smoke trail behind.
treestar
(82,383 posts)If they are really defending this country, that is what they are defending.
Anon-C
(3,430 posts)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Civic Justice
(870 posts)Sadly, we as a nation are allowing it to go on far too long. It insults everything people have served and died to build, support and protect.
Trump and the Republican Congress should get the penalty for Treason Against Everything American Democracy is built upon, everything it stand to represent.
This attack on our Judicial system and the civility of people to protest, is something American should NEVER tolerate and certainly not endure for the length of time and the expanse of the insults he's done to America, American People and our American systems and institutions.
magicarpet
(14,122 posts).... and propaganda expert to the feeble minded and Nazis among us. He is a habitual liar and cheater and extortionist - but the Nazis love him for it because he pisses off liberals and progressives.
Uncle Joe
(58,298 posts)Same here.
Thanks for the thread syringis
sarge43
(28,940 posts)We veterans have sworn or affirmed to protect, preserve and defend the Constitution of United States; that's our first and most important order.
I'll take a knee or link arms with those football players; they're true Americans.
weissmam
(905 posts)Submariner
(12,498 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Thank you for your service!
shadowmayor
(1,325 posts)If someone kneeling during the national anthem bothers you more than the sight of your fellow citizens being gunned down in the streets, then perhaps you are part of the problem! I am a veteran and I approve of Dan's message!
ooky
(8,908 posts)Cha
(296,870 posts)XRubicon
(2,212 posts)green917
(442 posts)Not only does this veteran agree wholeheartedly but this entire ridiculous debate brings to mind one of my favorite pieces of political writing... take it away Aaron Sorkin:
"You want free speech? Let's see you acknowledge a man whose words make your blood boil, who's standing center stage and advocating at the top of his lungs that which you would spend a lifetime opposing at the top of yours." You want to claim this land as the land of the free? Then the symbol of your country cannot just be a flag. The symbol also has to be one of its citizens exercising his right to burn that flag in protest. Now show me that, defend that, celebrate that in your classrooms.
Then you can stand up and sing about the land of the free.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,560 posts)We should all be grateful to all of our veterans, but you belong to a group that deserves just a little bit more.
TomSlick
(11,088 posts)I understood the oath.
Permanut
(5,569 posts)And I'm with Dan all the way on this one.
woofless
(2,670 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Demovictory9
(32,423 posts)The Wizard
(12,536 posts)wrap themselves in the flag and chant USA USA USA (American Seig Heil).
usaf-vet
(6,163 posts)So WE too. WW I, WW II and Vietnam.
yardwork
(61,539 posts)Ernesto
(5,077 posts)CRK7376
(2,198 posts)and I wore Army Green for 38 years and always supported the Democratic Party. While in green I did keep my political preference to myself, tried to be apolitical as most officers and senior NCOs did. Well said Mr. Currie!