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Can someone please seriously tell me why trump is starting trade wars with our allies? (Original Post) mahina May 2018 OP
The answer to both of your questions is Putin. LonePirate May 2018 #1
Right. Sophia4 May 2018 #6
I'm sorry, but MyOwnPeace May 2018 #7
Bingo! KGOP repubes are selling out America under Comrade Casino* Achilleaze Jun 2018 #32
Trump benefits from the endless diversion. guillaumeb May 2018 #2
Putin hopes to take advantage librechik May 2018 #3
China and Russia benefit from a trade war between the US and our allies. OneBro May 2018 #4
Because he's such a fucking idiot he thinks PoindexterOglethorpe May 2018 #5
Yeah, he said health care was "easy" too. ooky May 2018 #22
Putins orders. This way he will weaken the U.S. relationships with the European nations SummerSnow May 2018 #8
John Schindler says he is a "Russian agent" sharedvalues May 2018 #9
Bingo. roamer65 May 2018 #21
He didn't get a trump hotel in Munich? MaryMagdaline May 2018 #10
Putin CakeGrrl May 2018 #11
Mueller. He does it to divert grantcart May 2018 #12
because he currently has no new hotels to begin construction this year in USA. NCjack May 2018 #13
At his own peril. no_hypocrisy May 2018 #14
Trump says we should be producing lunatica May 2018 #15
Having seen an aluminum mine up close, I can say we should really pass on that one. mahina May 2018 #16
Maybe beer and soda companies will lunatica May 2018 #17
Putin Takket May 2018 #18
he's about breaking alliances everywhere KT2000 May 2018 #19
dawg's First Law of Clowns: dawg May 2018 #20
Because Putin told him to! Trueblue Texan May 2018 #23
If more coal and aluminum plants go up in the USA, more coal is burnt applegrove Jun 2018 #24
The answer to both questions begins with a P JHB Jun 2018 #25
Russia. Is there now any doubt that he is a Russian agent? smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #26
Okay. A serious explanation without jokes or sarcasm: DetlefK Jun 2018 #27
This. salin Jun 2018 #38
I think it has something to do with coal production Raine Jun 2018 #28
If we knew his market positions ... Mike Niendorff Jun 2018 #29
Oh of COURSE. mahina Jun 2018 #30
Requires Him To Have That Kind Of Liquidity ProfessorGAC Jun 2018 #34
Economic nationalism plus... TimeSnowDemos Jun 2018 #31
Then He Really Is A Republican ProfessorGAC Jun 2018 #35
So very true TimeSnowDemos Jun 2018 #37
We still have allies? nt Buns_of_Fire Jun 2018 #33
The moron thinks our country will benefit from it. Captain Stern Jun 2018 #36

MyOwnPeace

(16,919 posts)
7. I'm sorry, but
Thu May 31, 2018, 07:48 PM
May 2018

your answer reflects a belief in the "Russian influence."

But that can't be true - IQ45 said that there is no such thing!

The CORRECT answer:

HE IS AN ASSHOLE!!!!!!!

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
32. Bingo! KGOP repubes are selling out America under Comrade Casino*
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 06:55 AM
Jun 2018

* aka republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,816 posts)
5. Because he's such a fucking idiot he thinks
Thu May 31, 2018, 07:47 PM
May 2018

(and he's said as much) that trade wars are easy to win. He thinks the world economy is like the small part of NYC that he knows and abused for so many years.

ooky

(8,908 posts)
22. Yeah, he said health care was "easy" too.
Thu May 31, 2018, 08:43 PM
May 2018

About a month from now he'll be saying "who would have believed trade wars are so hard"?

SummerSnow

(12,608 posts)
8. Putins orders. This way he will weaken the U.S. relationships with the European nations
Thu May 31, 2018, 07:48 PM
May 2018

'loose lips, sinks ships'

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
9. John Schindler says he is a "Russian agent"
Thu May 31, 2018, 07:48 PM
May 2018

Russia benefits from creating chaos in America and separating America from our allies.

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
11. Putin
Thu May 31, 2018, 07:54 PM
May 2018

He has kompromat on Trump, and he benefits from the U.S. losing its standing in the world. He couldn't have put a better agent of destruction in the Oval Office.

Everything Trump has done has served that purpose:

** Appointing people who don't believe in our government agencies to lead them. Why? To dismantle them.
** Offending our allies and supporting dictators
** Pulling the US out of successful, hard-won alliances
** Enacting polices that fly in the face of human rights and send the US stock market into tailspins

no_hypocrisy

(46,037 posts)
14. At his own peril.
Thu May 31, 2018, 07:58 PM
May 2018

Do you believe any of those countries will approve anything Trump from this day forward? Hotels, buildings, merchandise?

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
15. Trump says we should be producing
Thu May 31, 2018, 08:03 PM
May 2018

what we’re importing now. For example
he doesn’t think we should be enriching other countries by importing aluminum. We should br using our own.

He is doing his best to isolate us yet be self reliant on what we need.

On the other hand he wants to punish other countries for “taking advantage of us and enriching themselves at our expense”.

In actuality he’s doing what all dictators do which is to isolate us by consolidating his control. It’s the reason for the wall and the Muslim travel ban and the refusal to allow immigration.

First he will isolate the country then he’ll lock the doors to immigrants and then he’ll probably start “purging” non desirables. There might be a lot of trials against terrorists which will include people like us. He will demand total loyalty from everyone, including the citizens.

mahina

(17,622 posts)
16. Having seen an aluminum mine up close, I can say we should really pass on that one.
Thu May 31, 2018, 08:14 PM
May 2018

I hope we can recycle what we need to use. That mine was a devastation zone- in Canada.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
17. Maybe beer and soda companies will
Thu May 31, 2018, 08:25 PM
May 2018

start a recycling program for their aluminum. But Trump doesn’t care about the environment. He wants to open up our National parks to drilling for oil and mining anyway.

Then he can claim he created all those new jobs and he can triumphantly claim America Is Great Again.

KT2000

(20,568 posts)
19. he's about breaking alliances everywhere
Thu May 31, 2018, 08:34 PM
May 2018

coalitions make all members stronger. Breaking them apart makes trump feel he is the strongest. Divide and conquer.

applegrove

(118,501 posts)
24. If more coal and aluminum plants go up in the USA, more coal is burnt
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 03:44 AM
Jun 2018

to provide the smelting power.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
27. Okay. A serious explanation without jokes or sarcasm:
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 03:57 AM
Jun 2018

He wants a win. Any win. He doesn't care against whom he is winning or what he is winning, but he wants a win.

Because Trump is weak and needy and wants to be adored and celebrated at all cost.

salin

(48,955 posts)
38. This.
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 07:46 AM
Jun 2018

and he surrounds himself with fringe "experts" - one throw around conspiracy theories and "what we ought to do" fringe solutions - of which I would guess this counterproductive plan is one.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
28. I think it has something to do with coal production
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 04:16 AM
Jun 2018
one of the promises he made while campaigning.

Mike Niendorff

(3,456 posts)
29. If we knew his market positions ...
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 04:22 AM
Jun 2018

... this might be an easier question to answer.

(* in simple terms : no, I don't put it past him AT ALL to gin up these panics in order to profiteer from the resulting market swings)


MDN

mahina

(17,622 posts)
30. Oh of COURSE.
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 05:10 AM
Jun 2018

In addition to playing for personal political gain, nothing would surprise me less than him shorting the USA.

I hope and pray that we can know, one day soon.

ProfessorGAC

(64,869 posts)
34. Requires Him To Have That Kind Of Liquidity
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 07:08 AM
Jun 2018

You are assuming that the free flow of capital exists to execute a profiteering scheme.

That's an assumption i can't accept. He has nowhere close to the net worth claimed. Already far too much leverage.

He would need to borrow more money to profiteer, and anyone who had the capital to lend the money would just do the profiteering on their own.

Now, had you said that the foreign puppet masters are wanting this to execute THEIR profiteering schemes, i would probably buy in.

 

TimeSnowDemos

(476 posts)
37. So very true
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 07:40 AM
Jun 2018

Then again finding ANY politician who understands it as it relates to average folks is a big ask most years.

Captain Stern

(2,199 posts)
36. The moron thinks our country will benefit from it.
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 07:15 AM
Jun 2018

Also, the moron doesn't think we have, or need, any 'allies'.

The moron thinks it's 'murika against the world.

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