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So America's mayor threatens constitutional crisis.... (Original Post) pbmus Jun 2018 OP
"Us" / "We're" ?? DURHAM D Jun 2018 #1
My immediate reaction, as well. n/t Ms. Toad Jun 2018 #11
Is this just a delaying tactic? D_Master81 Jun 2018 #2
Yep, expect nothing else until he is out of office. BigmanPigman Jun 2018 #5
Tapes and personal testimony are legally two completely different animals. former9thward Jun 2018 #7
Bill Clinton was compelled to testify. nt shanny Jun 2018 #10
That was a civil case not criminal. former9thward Jun 2018 #13
Unlike the repugnant goons in Congress the Judiciary stands up to OrangeTurd YessirAtsaFact Jun 2018 #3
It will go to SCOTUS. We do not yet know how they'll decide. hedda_foil Jun 2018 #9
I can't see Roberts or Kennedy shanny Jun 2018 #12
Everybody has a right to go to court SCantiGOP Jun 2018 #4
trumps lawyers have declared him above the law. spanone Jun 2018 #6
This could be a huge blunder standingtall Jun 2018 #8
Isn't that kind of understood in this situation? NCTraveler Jun 2018 #14

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
2. Is this just a delaying tactic?
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 10:32 PM
Jun 2018

They cant possibly think they're above a subpoena can they? Nixon tried this w/ the tapes and got voted down by the SC 9-0.

former9thward

(31,974 posts)
7. Tapes and personal testimony are legally two completely different animals.
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 11:25 PM
Jun 2018

The tapes were evidence and tapes can't be indicted. Compelled personal testimony can result in an indictment. No one can be sure how the courts would rule.

former9thward

(31,974 posts)
13. That was a civil case not criminal.
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 12:15 AM
Jun 2018

He was convicted of civil contempt of court -- not criminal perjury. Far different cases although given what happened to Clinton it would be an argument against testifying. Clinton said he had an "improper physical relationship" with Lewinsky and he still was convicted.

YessirAtsaFact

(2,064 posts)
3. Unlike the repugnant goons in Congress the Judiciary stands up to OrangeTurd
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 10:34 PM
Jun 2018

As noted above just a delaying tactic.

hedda_foil

(16,372 posts)
9. It will go to SCOTUS. We do not yet know how they'll decide.
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 11:38 PM
Jun 2018

We know what precedent says. We don't know if the con majority will agree. They will decide the future of this nation. God help us.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
12. I can't see Roberts or Kennedy
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 12:06 AM
Jun 2018

rolling over for Trump on judicial authority. Thomas, Alito and Gorsuch, yes.

standingtall

(2,785 posts)
8. This could be a huge blunder
Sat Jun 2, 2018, 11:28 PM
Jun 2018

if Trump defies a subpoena and this goes to the supreme court and Trump loses there. What is he going to do then defy the supreme court? That would put republicans in between a rock and hard place. They will either have to admit they would not impeach or remove Trump under any circumstances or they would have to do the right thing in joining with Democrats in impeaching and removing him from office. Maybe Trump and his team doesn't plan on letting it get to the supreme court instead Trump plans to use Mueller's subpoena of him as a pretext to fire Mueller.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
14. Isn't that kind of understood in this situation?
Sun Jun 3, 2018, 12:22 AM
Jun 2018

If they don’t want to be under the restraints of a subpoena then they will have to argue against its validity.

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