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Mon Jun 4, 2018, 10:33 PM

Are the Democrats being aggressive enough to sweep to victory in the 2018 elections.

I feel the Democratic Party can do a lot more in standing up to
the Republicans . The Democrats seem to want to play it safe and not rock the boat.
as if these are normal times in our country’s history.
Hoping that the Republicans would make all the mistakes and fumble the ball.
But without offering a real alternatives, real solutions we fall short.Why offer ‘’A better deal”. Why not offer the
“BEST DEAL”. The American people deserve the best deal possible, not just a better deal!
I know I am being hard but these are serious Times and challenges that threaten our country's future and our way of life and the rule of law.
Some Democrats may think that they can somehow sway Trump supporters and the fox news
watchers away from trump.
Some believe that openly suggesting holding the president accountable
not, to mention impeachment, will doom their chances to win. Some even said if they push
harder in that direction it might split the country further. Well “breaking news” the country
is already split.
What we have, friends, is the most corrupt administration in American history.
The FBI and DOJ are attacked daily by presidential tweets.
The president himself has openly defied the constitution and the rule of law ,even thinks of
himself as above both. He is a constant Liar. He has divided the country. Split our Allies and
Nato. He is launching a global trade war using the carrot and stick against our neighbors and
allies and only the carrots toward our adversaries like Russia and China for example.
Our Allies are like family stood with us through thick and thin we should not threaten them, instead
We should find consensus that would benefit both sides .
Trump gave tax breaks to the richest 1% on the expenses of the middle and lower income
families. Millions are going off health insurance. Millions have to work low paying jobs some
have to work two jobs to make ends meet. I am one of them.
It is good for the Democratic Party to find good suitable candidates particularly women
to run for office and should continue and expand the grass root movement in finding and
registering voters. But why not following several roads and several strategies at the same time.
So the slogan “when they go low we go high” sounds great. At the same time we also should
follow another strategy that when they go low and lie we kick their butts.
Now the democrats can beat this corrupt reality TV administration along with the GOP party
that has abdicated its responsibility to be the checks and balance to the executive branch .
Time for actions. Time to be bold, loud, determined and courageous .
Our forefathers as well the coming generations expect that from us.
Our time is now to save the future.
I know some of you will not like what I am saying.
But my love of this great country and its entire people dictates it.

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Reply Are the Democrats being aggressive enough to sweep to victory in the 2018 elections. (Original post)
Chickensoup Jun 2018 OP
RandySF Jun 2018 #1
EffieBlack Jun 2018 #4
treestar Jun 2018 #17
Hortensis Jun 2018 #25
Soxfan58 Jun 2018 #27
DinahMoeHum Jun 2018 #29
Kajun Gal Jun 2018 #2
Hekate Jun 2018 #3
NurseJackie Jun 2018 #11
Chickensoup Jun 2018 #15
Hekate Jun 2018 #22
Chickensoup Jun 2018 #14
crazycatlady Jun 2018 #5
RandySF Jun 2018 #7
Chickensoup Jun 2018 #13
EffieBlack Jun 2018 #12
treestar Jun 2018 #18
EffieBlack Jun 2018 #6
Awsi Dooger Jun 2018 #9
Chickensoup Jun 2018 #16
Chickensoup Jun 2018 #20
Hekate Jun 2018 #21
Chickensoup Jun 2018 #24
msongs Jun 2018 #8
NurseJackie Jun 2018 #10
ismnotwasm Jun 2018 #19
Hekate Jun 2018 #23
pwb Jun 2018 #26
NCTraveler Jun 2018 #28
DinahMoeHum Jun 2018 #30
Chickensoup Jun 2018 #31
DinahMoeHum Jun 2018 #32

Response to Chickensoup (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 10:36 PM

1. Before you ask what party is doing to win

Ask yourself what you are doing to win.

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Response to RandySF (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 10:58 PM

4. Exactly!

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Response to RandySF (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 5, 2018, 12:20 AM

17. As that high school kid quoted

“ ‘Don't just get involved. Fight for your seat at the table. Better yet, fight for a seat at the head of the table.’ — Barack Obama

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Response to RandySF (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 5, 2018, 07:53 AM

25. Exactly. WE are the Democratic Party, not just our leaders.

You want to win? Be the Democrat you want others to be, Chickensoup.

When politics are discussed around you, Chickensoup, what message do you contribute? The late Molly Ivins spoke powerful messages, but first she had to know what she wanted to say. This is her discussing one of our biggest principles, equality. We're the people who've been struggling to extend equality for 238 years, and these days it really is to all people.

It is possible to read the history of this country as one long struggle to extend the liberties established in our Constitution to everyone in America.

Here's our 2016 platform also. Full of messages to pass on. Pick some favorite ones?

https://www.democrats.org/party-platform

COUNTDOWN TO HANDING THE REPUBLICANS THEIR ASSES: 153 days.

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Response to RandySF (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 5, 2018, 08:03 AM

27. ...

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Response to RandySF (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 5, 2018, 08:13 AM

29. +1000s

If you cannot stomach the idea of joining your local Democratic Party committee/club in your hometown, then join up with Indivisible, Up2Us, SwingLeft, etc., and canvas on behalf of candidates.

A good ground game will defeat big money, big radio, big TV ads 9 times out of ten.

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Response to Chickensoup (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 10:37 PM

2. Agree!

 

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Response to Chickensoup (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 10:53 PM

3. Still flogging that meme about the Democrats not having a message & not working hard, I see...

As for quoting Michele Obama in the manner you do, that's just silly. She is not an office holder, she is not a policy maker for the Democratic Party. She is the wife of the ex-president.

Thats grass roots, not grass route.

For easier reading, please use your return key to create paragraphs. Thank you.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 11:25 PM

11. Yes. That. Everything. Thank you.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #11)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 11:58 PM

15. Thank for saying it NURSE JACKIE.

I AM A FAN OF AND HAVE THE HIGHEST RESPECT FOR REP. SCHIFF. A GREAT MAN AND AN ELOQUENT QUOTE
FAR MORE ELOQUENT THAN TRUMP. BUT TRUMP IS WINNING THE PUBLIC RELATIONS CAMPAIGN WITH LIES AND FAKE NEWS WE NEED A VOICE FROM GOD A ChurchiLL OR A LINCOLN THAT SPEAK TO THE HEARTS AND MINDS WITH FORCE AND CONVICTION .
WE CANT AFFORD TRUMP WINING PERIOD.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #11)

Tue Jun 5, 2018, 01:51 AM

22. You are welcome, Nurse Jackie

It's gonna be a bumpy ride

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Response to Hekate (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 11:42 PM

14. THANKS FOR YOUR KIND REPLY.

ROOT VS ROUTE HAS ALREADY BEEN CORRECTED BEFORE YOUR COMMENT. BUT FEEL FREE TO CORRECT ANY THING ANY TIME
INCLUDING WHO SAID WHAT WHEN AND THE NAMES OF FIRST LADIES.
PLEASE READ MY REPLY TO RANDY.

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Response to Chickensoup (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 11:00 PM

5. Every race, candidate, and district are different

A friendly suggestion to anyone here at DU.

Instead of getting on the computer/phone to bitch about why Democrats are not doing XYZ, go to your local Democratic field office (or contact the campaign). Pick up a clipboard and go knock on doors (in your neighborhood or another). Go make some phone calls. Go register some new HS graduates to vote. Host a house party for a Democrat running for office. If you have a spare bedroom, take in a nomadic campaign staffer.

Things won't change unless you're willing to put in the work. Now grab a clipboard.

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Response to crazycatlady (Reply #5)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 11:04 PM

7. If one doesn't want to leave their room

Donate $5 online.

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Response to RandySF (Reply #7)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 11:34 PM

13. Thanks for your two replies.

I HAVE SPOKEN TO MORE THAN 6000 PEOPLE IN MY CITY IN THE LAST 3 MONTH ON MY OWN.
I DO IT BECAUSE I AM A STUDENT OF HISTORY. I LOVE AMERICA AND I KNOW THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE NO IDEA HOW
SERIOUS WHAT IS HAPPENING TO OUR COUNTRY. EVEN IF TRUMP IS OUT OF OFFICE THE DAMAGE HE HAS INFLECTED
WILL BE WITH US FOR A LONG LONG TIME. HIS ARRIVAL ON THE SEEN IS ONLY THE BEGINNING OF MANY MORE TRUMPS FAR MORE SMART AND FAR MORE DANGEROUS. LIKE THE FROG IN THE BOILING POT BY THE TIME YOU FEEL THE HEAT IT WILL
BE TOO LATE.
THE SEED ALREADY PLANTED IN THE MIND OF MANY WHO FEED ON FAKE NEWS. THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA IS PREOCCUPIED WITH RATINGS WITH INDIVIDUAL EXCEPTIONS.
WHILE FOX NEWS, EXTREME RIGHT AND NEO-NAZI DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE OTHER POINT OF VIEW.
WHILE SOME OF US IN DU ARE MORE INTERESTED IN FINDING FAULTS AND SPELLING ERRORS.......WAKE UP.

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Response to crazycatlady (Reply #5)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 11:27 PM

12. Post of the day

Thanks!!!

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Response to crazycatlady (Reply #5)

Tue Jun 5, 2018, 12:24 AM

18. +1

This is what Democrats need. Not messaging and fighting and all that Jazz.

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Response to Chickensoup (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 11:03 PM

6. This is a ground game

You treat “finding and registering voters” as if it’s no big deal when that is the FUNDAMENTAL activity and, along with GOTV will determine the outcome.

That's done on the ground, it’s not flashy, it’s not sexy - it’s long, hard, grueling work and Democrats are doing it across the country.

The question should be: what are YOU doing to help?

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #6)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 11:22 PM

9. Preference overpowers and destroys turnout

The two aren't remotely comparable. I'll take the tilt of the nation every time and let every volunteer sit on the couch, while the other side knocks on every door every day.

IMO, college campus registration drives should have been our utmost priority since Day 1 of the Trump administration. The long term gain is huge, and beyond anything we can manage by whining about this or that. When the other side has a president with approval rating in the 30s, no thinking is necessary. Register the youth. Lock 'em up. If we don't understand that we don't understand much of anything.

Situational variables decide most elections. But secondary during each election cycle the key are messaging and messengers. At this point I still don't know what our themes will be. Anything negative toward Trump is mostly a waste. I'll scream if we go that route. Those numbers are already cemented. We need something that attracts single women, since that block historically betrays us and stays home during midterms.

I assume health care will be a focus but it needs to be done with a terrific short memorable slogan, and not the pathetic ones we normally come up with.






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Response to Awsi Dooger (Reply #9)

Tue Jun 5, 2018, 12:16 AM

16. GOOD EVENING AWSI.

YOU ARE FIGHTING THE PREVIOUS WAR MY FRIEND, LIKE MOST GENERALS.
WE ARE AT DIFFERENT TIME.
IF WE LOSE THE NEXT ELECTION THERE MAY BE NO ELECTION AT ALL AFTER THAT.
WHEN HITLER WON THE ELECTION IN GERMANY THEIR WAS NO SUCCEEDING ELECTIONS .THAT IS WHAT DICTATORS DO BEST AROUND THE WORLD. THEY ALWAYS FIND THE REASONS. DO YOU THINK PUTIN NEED REGISTERED VOTERS THEY SIMPLY FAKE THE RESULTS. PLEASE READ MY REPLY TO RANDY.

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 5, 2018, 12:34 AM

20. DEAR EFFIEBLACK

PLEASE READ MY DIFFERENT REPLIES ON THIS DISCUSSION.
DO YOU THINK DICTATORS CAN BE REMOVED BY REGISTERED VOTERS VOTING. NOP.
THEY SIMPLY FALSIFY RESULTS. ASK PUTIN. WHY DO YOU THINK TRUMP LOVES DICTATORS ...YES?

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Response to Chickensoup (Reply #20)

Tue Jun 5, 2018, 01:50 AM

21. In this country we have the legal option of...voting. What is your alternative suggestion?

Please do elaborate.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #21)

Tue Jun 5, 2018, 07:51 AM

24. "it's easier to resist at the beginning than at the end" LEONARDO DA VINCI

IN EVERY COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, EVEN THE MOST DICTATORIAL, THE RIGHT TO VOTE IS GUARANTEED. VOTING IS ORGANIZED. NO ONE LOOKS OVER YOUR SHOULDERS TO MAKE SURE YOU VOTED FOR THE DICTATOR. EVEN INTERNATIONAL OBSERVERS ARE ALLOWED TO OBSERVE HOW FAIR AND TRANSPARENT THE ELECTION IS. THE REAL TRICK IS THE ELECTION COMMISSION IS STUFFED WITH THE DICTATORS MEN. VOTING BOXES WITH PAPER BALLOTS OR COMPUTER PRINTOUTS ONCE PICKED UP THEY ARE SWITCHED WITH FAKE ONES SO THE LEADER WILL BE THE WINNER REGARDLESS OF WHO WAS VOTED FOR.
HOW DO THEY GET PEOPLE TO SWITCH BOXES AND FALSIFY RESULTS? EASY, SOME WITH MONEY, SOME BELIEVE THAT THOSE WHO DO NOT WANT THE DICTATOR ARE THE REAL ENEMIES WHO WANTS TO DESTROY THE COUNTRY SO WE HAVE TO DEFEAT THE ENEMIES BY MAKING THE DICTATOR WIN. REMEMBER TRUMP COMMENTS ON "ME ALONE CAN FIX IT"
DEMOCRACY AND FREEDOM AND FREE SPEECH ARE LOST ONE SMALL STEP AT A TIME COUPLED WITH AN OVERWHELMING
EVENT SUCH AS FOREIGN THREAT, CIVIL STRIFE , TERROR ATTACK, DRUG WAR AT THE BOARDER SEND THE ARMY WE NEED THE WALL AT ANY PRICE, WE ARE OVER RUN BY IMMIGRANTS AND ASYLUM SEEKERS IT MAKE NO DIFFERENCE THE REASON WHETHER REAL OR MANUFACTURED. AT THE TIME IT WILL BE NEAR IMPOSSIBLE TO RESIST
AS YOU WILL BE BRANDED THE ENEMY OF THE STATE.
IF TRUMP KNOW HE CAN GET AWAY WITH FIRING THE SPECIAL PROSECUTOR HE WILL FIRE HIM. HE WILL PARDON WHO EVER HE WANTS. HE WILL OPEN MORE HOTELS AROUND THE WHITE HOUSE REMOVE THE LAST REMAINING PROTECTION TO THE ENVIRONMENT, FOOD, MEDICINE, ANIMAL WELFARE LAWS,LAND PROTECTION AND OIL DRILLING ALL WHILE LINING HIS OWN POCKETS.
SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO? OF COURSE WE NEED TO VOTE. WE ALSO NEED TO SHOW THAT WE AS A PEOPLE WILL NOT TOLERATE DICTATORSHIP. WE DO NOT ACCEPT THE PRESIDENT TO BE ABOVE THE LAW. WE NEED TO ORGANIZE PEACEFUL MARCHES FOR DEMOCRATIC RIGHTS AND CIVILITY IN POLITICS AS WE DID WITH WOMEN RIGHTS AND STOPPING GUN VIOLENCE. WE NEED TO HOLD POLITICIANS ACCOUNTABLE TO THEIR OATH OF OFFICE.
THE DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP AND ALL WHO WANT TO MARCH TO PROTECT OUR FREEDOM TO BE IN THE FOREFRONT.
THE ISSUE OF FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY IS THE STORY OF AMERICA AND ITS CHERISHED VALUES.
WE NEED TO GET THAT JOKER OUT OF THE WH.

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Response to Chickensoup (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 11:07 PM

8. for example a dems senator should crash the gates at every privatized ICE detention

center, good optics and PR as well as standing up for what is right IMO

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Response to Chickensoup (Original post)

Mon Jun 4, 2018, 11:23 PM

10. Stop it. Enough!

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Response to Chickensoup (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2018, 12:29 AM

19. Oh HELL yes

Some of you all need to pay attention.

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Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #19)

Tue Jun 5, 2018, 01:52 AM

23. You think we are not paying attention here?

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Response to Chickensoup (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2018, 08:00 AM

26. yes

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Response to Chickensoup (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2018, 08:06 AM

28. This is a load of horse shit.

 

Just because you don’t read doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.

You have liberated yourself from reality.

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Response to Chickensoup (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2018, 08:18 AM

30. Your concern is noted.

One more thing: lose the goddamn ALL-CAPS in your replies. Thanks.

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Response to DinahMoeHum (Reply #30)

Tue Jun 5, 2018, 08:21 AM

31. YOUR OPPSSS.your concern is also noted.

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Response to Chickensoup (Reply #31)

Tue Jun 5, 2018, 08:29 AM

32. Please note reply #29

n/t

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