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Mon Jun 11, 2018, 08:53 AM

Obama Meets With Prospective 2020 Dem Presidential Candidates. Oh My!

Barack Obama has in recent months met with at least nine prospective 2020 Democratic presidential candidates, including Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Joe Biden and Deval Patrick, pulling them in for one-on-one sessions at his Washington office.

All the meetings were arranged quietly, without even some close advisers to the people involved being told of the conversations, in part because of how much Obama bristles at his private meetings becoming public knowledge. All have been confirmed to POLITICO by multiple people who have been briefed on the secretive sit-downs.


[link:https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/11/obama-2020-elections-sanders-warren-635165|

Well, well!

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Reply Obama Meets With Prospective 2020 Dem Presidential Candidates. Oh My! (Original post)
Soph0571 Jun 11 OP
Kilgore Jun 11 #1
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Kilgore Jun 11 #57
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Kilgore Jun 14 #69
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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 09:14 AM

1. Best paragraph from the atricle

Many of the conversations have circled around Obama holding forth about how much Democrats should be heading into the midterms talking about the investigations into Russian interference in the 2016 election versus focusing on kitchen table issues. Donít chase the shiny objects, he tells them. Donít hyperventilate over the flash of any tweet. Think about whatís going to stick in the long term.

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Response to Kilgore (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:02 AM

6. This is the key. 50 state strategy will get us back the House.

From factory towns in Michigan and Pennsylvania who need jobs. An opioid crisis in a county in Ohio. A city in Wisconsin that could lose it's unions. Or a district in Missouri with residents scared they're going to lose their health care. Cater to them. They don't care about the Russian collusion, they're worried about how they're going to make it to next week or month. That's where we'll win.

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Reply #6)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:46 AM

10. All politics is local...

The Russian investigations are important, but not high on everybody's radar.

Dem candidates should run on issues that pertain to their districts, with only peripheral reference to the Mueller investigations. If asked, the response should be "Let the Special Counsel finish."

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Response to bearsfootball516 (Reply #6)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 03:36 PM

42. As I write this, I am sitting in a breakroom with a tv playing live coverage from Singapore

The room is filled with union members who all voted for Trump. In years past, they were Bill Clinton supporters, many drifted away under Obama, and there was open contempt for Hillary. I can tell you its because they feel the democratic party walked away from them.

Trump comes along and shows concern for their jobs and lifestyle and locks up their votes. They love the guy and seem to connect with him.

Figure out how to speak to this group, and they will return to their demcratic roots.

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Response to Kilgore (Reply #42)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 06:13 PM

46. Well said!

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Response to Kilgore (Reply #42)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 07:08 PM

52. But that's really utter BS. Hillary had a well-drawn out jobs plan and they know it.

If they vote for Trump after he hasn't created one new job for them, well, I think that tells you why they really didn't vote for Hillary.

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Response to LisaM (Reply #52)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:08 PM

57. Sorry LisaM, you have it completely wrong.

I work with these folks every day in a unionized environment with a few hundred coworkers. Traditionally you could count the number of Republicans on one hand. But that was in the Bill Clinton era. Today I estimate my coworkers are 85%+ Trump voters. Why?

Its mainly because folks see Trump as someone "getting things done" and not someone who is "coming to take their guns away" or dosent "look down on those of us with a rural lifestyle" and "does not make fun of our religion" Plus he is "protecting our jobs" and "wants to keep out the bad guys" The quotes are actual statments I heard during the election and still hear today.

Hillary did nothing to get their attention. Nothing to address the issues discussed above. I recall laughter at hearing about "retraining" Since the election, our facility is up to maximum production with all shifts staffed. All of the laid off are now back at work and overtime is plentiful. There is even a bounty being paid to current employees for recommending friends who get hired.
Who do you think gets the credit? Its not Obama, its not Hillary.

I am not a Trump supporter. I think he is a buffoon. But I beleive what my two eyes see, and honestly believe the party has lost touch with this portion of its base. We need a plan to get them to remove their MAGA hats......yes some proudly wear them. One shop steward who helped in the first Obama election actually wears one today.

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Response to Kilgore (Reply #57)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 11:34 PM

58. Truth.

Too many, even here, conflate ALL white rural workers with the nazis.

But it's kitchen table issues.

What if I get laid off? How will I keep my healthcare? Why is college so expensive? Why do they want to privatize Social Security? Why is service at the VA so shitty?

Pretty much everyone in the world wants a good job. If you're talking about good jobs with good benefits, including healthcare that isn't of the 'shitty, rationed with financially crippling copay variety,' then they are listening.

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Response to PatrickforO (Reply #58)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 12:04 AM

59. I know people like this too. They are being fed lies

And choosing to believe them. I like rural people. I grew up with factory workers. But they didn't used to vote against their self interest. They didn't have the drumbeat of right-wing media bleating at them 24 hours a day. And Trump isn't going to create jobs or better times for them, so none of it makes sense. Geeze, Hillary spent time in Alaska cleaning fish guts at a cannery. She told that story during the campaign. But Trump put on a baseball cap and the media lapped it up and never talked about the jobs she had while she was becoming a self-made person. She has a lot more in common with those voters than Trump does and the glee they get from hating her is sometimes more than I can bear. They want to hate her so they do hate her. It's depressing.

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Response to LisaM (Reply #59)

Sat Jun 16, 2018, 01:55 PM

90. +100. Plus, Repubs SUPPRESSED the economy during

the Obama years. Hard times makes people more conservative. The GOP leadership and their donors know that, so they did their best to maintain hard times for workers through Obama's presidency.

We know McConnell failed in his commitment to keep Obama from accomplishing anything as president. But, as keepers of the national purse, they were able to keep economic stimulation low, barely enough right after late 2007's crash to keep it from crashing again, and they always refused congressional measures that would have assisted the economy's own recovery to the point of raising wages again.

Until now. Now that Obama's out and they're in. Only, of course, being them they're applying stimulus all wrong--as mainly transfers of national wealth to the very wealthy, who are investing very little in new production and new jobs, much less jobs training. This trickle-down stimulus is resulting in more jobs now but will inevitably lead to yet another low-production investor bubble if we don't get control and change course.

I'm afraid Kilgore's eyes are deceiving him. After 8 years of steady economic recovery under Obama, we've taken a right turn and are heading for bad trouble again.

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Response to Kilgore (Reply #57)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 05:01 AM

62. thumbs up on the lack and loss of connection- Ds needed "We built America", made in USA

Blue ball caps. Because everyone! in middle America, Union workers too, wear ball caps all the time and don't connect with a party who tends to look down at that.

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Response to Kilgore (Reply #57)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 04:22 PM

68. We'll just have to wait for them to die

Because as much as they pretend they're not racist, that's what's driving this. Here's a handy cheat-sheet translator:

"getting things done" => "is white"

"coming to take their guns away" => Reagan was in favor of gun control and took more guns away than Obama did.

"does not make fun of our religion" => "is white, which is why I feel comfortable lying about his opposition"

"protecting our jobs" => "is white, who therefore makes me think he gives a shit about our jobs"

"wants to keep out the bad guys" => "but not domestic terrorists, who are mostly all white"


I talk to people like this too, and once you get past the surface, it becomes clear that all these other pretenses just hide deep seated racial and sexual bigotry. There really is no reaching someone who has decided to be evil. The best you can do is not accept their excuses, and explain to them in detail how they themselves will suffer for their evil.

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Response to Steven Maurer (Reply #68)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 07:00 PM

69. Thank you for wanting my coworkers to die

I find that cold and heartless.

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Response to Kilgore (Reply #69)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 07:44 PM

70. I never said I "wanted" them to die

Just that we'll have to wait for them to die for the country to change.

You may like your co-workers, but they sound outright evil. And evil almost never changes. Certainly not by appeasement.

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Response to Steven Maurer (Reply #70)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 12:08 AM

83. Let me get this straight

During the Bill Clinton administration , and all the prior years they supported democrats, they were not evil. When they worked for the first Obama election they were also not evil. But by the 2016 election after multiple rounds of layoffs and downsizing, they decide to vote for Trump they are transformed into evil. Thats nuts.

BS or not, Trumps rhetoric fired them up. Thats a fact I saw with my two own eyes. Nothing the democratic party offered connected with them.

Their present enthusiasm for Trump is reinforced with production at maximum capacity, plentiful overtime, and everyone who had been laid off is now back to work. Are they now evil? Also see post #57 above.

Yes Trump is a con man and a BS artist but there are reasons he connects with these folks. The democratic party has connected with them in the past (when they were not evil) and can do it again. But never will if attitudes like "lets wait till they die" prevai in the party.

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Response to Kilgore (Reply #83)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 02:05 AM

86. They weren't?

Plenty of evil people support good candidates when they see their own personal benefit in it or feel they have no other choice (and those candidates also don't press too hard on the parts where they are most evil). Democrats used to be a party that directly appealed to working class white racists. In fact, in the 1950s, the unions were racist too (all but the Wooblies).

Nor is it debatable that racism and sexism drove the 2016 election, not concerns about economic anxiety.

So while I understand that you can sympathize with your friend who got all this enthusiasm for Trump, maybe you ought to ask yourself exactly why he had none when President Obama and the Democrats turned the country around in 2008 from what was looking to turn into a second Great Depression.

For nearly my entirely life, this nation has been in a cycle of; 1) GOP is elected on racism, 2) GOP ruins the economy, 3) White working class racists hold their nose and vote for a Democrat to fix the economy so they can get a job, 4) The economy gets better so they feel safe in voting for racists again. The only way to break this cycle is for either Democrats to start nakedly appealing to evil old racists and sexists, or for us to take the long view.

Even if holding fast to our principles wasn't the right thing to do morally, it certainly is the right thing to do politically. The US is turning into California. And people have long memories about how they were treated. Minorities who become majorities are no exception.



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Response to Steven Maurer (Reply #86)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 05:04 PM

89. You obviously did not read post #57

They did work to get Obama elected, many twice.

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Response to Kilgore (Reply #89)

Tue Jun 19, 2018, 02:55 AM

94. I did.

I note that they do not credit him with the economic recovery that he, and he alone, was responsible for.

Again, most people who are racially biased won't shoot off their own foot. It take deep hatred indeed to refuse a lifesaver being thrown by a black man. But if they're crediting Trump with Obama's economy, when Trump is starting a trade war, that's all I need to know about them.

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Response to Kilgore (Reply #57)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 08:45 PM

77. Sec Clinton wasn't able to address those issues because the only thing anyone wanted yto talk about

was her EMAILS, Benghazi and Uranium One.

Of Course, Trump talked to these rurals about kitchen table issues but never addressed how he would solve them, he just said "Only I can fix it!" And yet rurals swallowed this hook, line and sinker and voted for him anyway!

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Response to Kilgore (Reply #57)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 09:54 PM

82. Hillary had the most progressive plarform. But the MSM would cut her off during a speech

Last edited Thu Jun 14, 2018, 10:37 PM - Edit history (1)

to show trump's empty podium!

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Response to Kilgore (Reply #57)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 07:04 AM

87. She had their FULL attention.

Didn't you see the teeshirts they wore?

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Response to LisaM (Reply #52)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 06:52 PM

64. Too many people just simply didn't like Hillary & either stayed home or went another way.

The polls showed the '16 election was between the 2 least liked candidates in history. Many polls showed it. We may not like it, but it is what it is. Or WAS I guess.

Deval Patrick is the best choice of the 4 mentioned. he's an energizer. Bernie/Biden will be looked at as too old (yes trumps old too). Warren, IMO, wouldn't be nearly as good as Patrick at getting people excited. Cory Booker is another.

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Response to 7962 (Reply #64)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 04:16 PM

88. The Russians stole the election for trump and still Hillary

got 3 Million more votes. Millions LIKED Hillary.

The M$$$$M had a big part in Hillary hate as well as all the LIES being told about her by Jill Fucking Stein.. and her fucking surrogates like ssarandon.

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Response to Kilgore (Reply #42)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 05:31 PM

63. If people can be misled by someone who "shows concerns for their jobs and their lifestyle"...

Then what's the difference between Democrats and Republicans? If a promise matters more than following through, what can we say that is different from the GOP's lies about the benefits of the tax cut package and how much better everyone will be if Obamacare is gone?

I don't know how we're going to win over people who don't think critically about what can be achieved. I hope we can, but I don't see a way clear.

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Response to More_Cowbell (Reply #63)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 12:09 AM

84. See post 57 above

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Response to Kilgore (Reply #42)

Sat Jun 16, 2018, 03:23 PM

91. I do not mean to sound condescending but

I will never understand how any sane person can go from being a supporter of Bill Clinton to trusting their future with Trump. I was and still am a supporter of Sanders but when he lost the primary I immediately supported Hillary, a person whom I have always liked and trusted. It was not even a close call.

Those who bought the crap that trump was selling are now getting what they deserve, unfortunately they are also hurting those who knew better than to believe the lying sack of shit they voted in. I would have no idea how to speak their language.

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Response to pennylane100 (Reply #91)

Sat Jun 16, 2018, 07:48 PM

92. There is a simple explaination.

By the end of the second Obama term the mill had laid off over half of the workforce and there was talk of a shutdown. This has a way of focusing ones attention on survival. Hillary did not make a case that these workers believed and that coupled with the fear, real or not, that their rural lifestyle was under attack pushed then to Trump. Now with the mill at full production and everyone back to work, he gets all of the credit.

I will keep pounding tne drum that these were once reliable democratic voters and can be again with the right candidate, message and actions.

Hope that helps.

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Response to Kilgore (Reply #1)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:49 AM

11. Obama said Dems should or should not talk about Russia investigations?

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Response to Pepsidog (Reply #11)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 11:39 AM

15. Poorly worded sentence

I, too, am confused. Unfortunately, Politico and other news organizations are laying off copy editors who value precision in language, usage and sentence structure.

Here's the confusing paragraph:

"Many of the conversations have circled around Obama holding forth about how much Democrats should be heading into the midterms talking about the investigations into Russian interference in the 2016 election versus focusing on kitchen table issues. Donít chase the shiny objects, he tells them. Donít hyperventilate over the flash of any tweet. Think about whatís going to stick in the long term."

A phrase such as "instead of" could have clarified it.

Many of the conversations have circled around Obama holding forth about how much Democrats should be heading into the midterms talking about kitchen table issues INSTEAD OF the investigations into Russian interference in the 2016 election. Donít chase the shiny objects, he tells them. Donít hyperventilate over the flash of any tweet. Think about whatís going to stick in the long term.

OR

Many of the conversations have circled around Obama holding forth about how much Democrats should be heading into the midterms talking about the investigations into Russian interference in the 2016 election INSTEAD OF focusing on kitchen table issues. Donít chase the shiny objects, he tells them. Donít hyperventilate over the flash of any tweet. Think about whatís going to stick in the long term.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 09:16 AM

2. K&R nt

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 09:43 AM

3. Obama knows how to win despite unprecedented and irrational opposition

They would do well to listen to his advice

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #3)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 06:15 PM

47. A lot of his success is due to his personality.

He is simply a warm, loving human being. Voters like that and will vote for the candidate they like.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 09:53 AM

4. I'm glad to read this..

I believe President Obama is a man who acknowledges his mistakes as well as his successes. Heís our wisest counsel right now and itís good he remains deeply involved.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:00 AM

5. I hope that...

...he tells Back Bench Bernie to stay the Hell OUT!

PEACE!

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Response to MarianJack (Reply #5)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:05 AM

7. I'm for whoever has the best chance of beating Trump! (n/t)

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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #7)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 02:25 PM

30. Frankly, I think anyone has a decent chance of beating Trump.




The GOP might realize this and look for a discreet way of getting him
out of office thinking Pence might make a more favorable impression.
Then Pence could decide to "spend more time with family" if the GOP
thinks they could come up with a better candidate.

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Response to MarianJack (Reply #5)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:13 AM

8. Bernie fancies himself as better that President Obama

So I canít see him taking the time to meet with a man who won 2 presidential elections. I mean what does he know anyway?

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #8)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:25 AM

9. so you fancy yourself as a better than obama on knowing who the potential candidates are

and how many primaries have you won....................

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Response to dembotoz (Reply #9)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:58 AM

12. How many has bernie won. This article is about Obama building a coalition,

There's a good reason Obama met with bernie.

This is about Democratic Party UNITY.
Hope it sinks in.


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Response to Wwcd (Reply #12)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 11:03 AM

13. :rofl:

12. How many has bernie won.



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Response to Wwcd (Reply #12)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 11:12 AM

14. Bernie won

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Response to cannabis_flower (Reply #14)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 11:44 AM

16. perhaps confused with bernie brewer who admittedly has won no primaries

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Response to cannabis_flower (Reply #14)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 01:16 PM

20. And??? Stop hijacking the Politico article about Pres Obama's long game of

Coalition builiding .

It's not a story about bernie.

Nothing Bernie sanders has ever done, will ever do or talk of doing, Will ever put him Above or Before the dedicated works of President Obama.

This is President Obama's honorable work, & that of the many who came & stayed loyal with him including VP Biden, Eric Holder, and the many many in the trenches of his grassroots campaign.

This article is NOT about bernie.
He can join President Obama or make good on his wife's threats to take their ball to another team.

It is President Obama's diplomacy & brilliance that will shine thru.
I hope bernie listened rather than turning the meeting into another pat on his own back.

So far, that's about all I see him & his OR doing.

Now, back to President Obama & his coalition to do all the good they can for America, its citizens & our allies abroad.

Here's an example of one part of the coalition:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/democratic-group-backed-by-eric-holder-obama-plans-to-target-gop-gerrymandering/

There are many more Democratic organizations like this.

Onward Together
Emily's List and more & more

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Response to Wwcd (Reply #20)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 02:03 PM

24. Thank you for that post.

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Response to True Blue American (Reply #24)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 02:06 PM

25. Yup. You are welcome 'True Blue American'

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Response to Wwcd (Reply #20)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 02:34 PM

32. +1000

Thank you! 🙏

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Response to Wwcd (Reply #20)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:01 PM

66. Yes! This!

Yes we can, Mr. President!

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Response to cannabis_flower (Reply #14)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 01:30 PM

22. Caucuses are about the least democratic structures there are.

We saw during the last election how the caucuses don't reflect the true makeup of the voters, OR accommodate many of them. The caucuses work ONLY if you can GET yourself to the caucuses in the first place.

If you're free to stick around ALL EVENING LONG, withstand all the inter-group lobbying, and hang on til the end when the vote is finally taken,

If you don't have to worry about babysitters,

If you don't have to worry about transportation (more difficult for the elderly),

If you're not snowed in and thus rendered unable to leave home (the Iowa caucuses happen in the middle of winter),

If you're a student of voting age who doesn't have homework due or tests scheduled for the next day - as many college-age students did (hell, I read a story in one of the newspapers in which a reporter covering the Iowa caucuses interviewed three college-age dudes, who had their own candidate and issue preferences. They had lots of very credible things to say, until the reporter asked each of them whether they were going to attend. One of them hadn't made up his mind, and the other two claimed to have waterpolo practice that same night),

If it means you have to stand in some cold gymnasium ALL EVENING (kinda hard when you're frail or ailing to some degree, or elderly - assuming you can even get there, physically). As I saw repeatedly, when I read reports about the caucuses, there are never enough chairs available to let you get off your feet - not only for the elderly but for young parents who are forced to take their kids with them and try to keep them corralled all evening,

Then you're basically screwed. You won't be present for the end-of-the-night voting (no, in many cases you're not allowed to arrive when it's convenient for you, cast your vote, and then leave. You have to stick around all evening long, and listen to the discussions and the lobbying by various spokespeople or campaign activists before you're allowed to vote. And the voting doesn't occur til the end of the evening. Which means YOUR vote won't be cast OR counted, and YOUR voice won't be heard.

I read enough about drawbacks and complications and other problem with the caucus system two years ago to decide that caucuses did not serve the voters. I'm thoroughly against them.

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Response to Wwcd (Reply #12)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 01:10 PM

19. Yeah

Bernie requested the meeting.

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Response to True Blue American (Reply #19)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 01:30 PM

21. Photo op # 125. Money & Media with zero substance.

Its like the person that stands next to a celebrity one time for a fan pic & brags online about what great friends they are.


Did he pitch his threat of a 3rd Party if Obama didn't do something about the DEMS new rule that you have to be a Dem & contribute to the Party in order to be given a share of the benefits they generously offer, to run on the Dem ticket?

Why doesn't bernie run a 3rd Party against the Republicans?
Why not.

Wonder what Obama said to that threat



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Response to Wwcd (Reply #21)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 02:45 PM

35. What kind of photo op has no photos?

Until this article, which is about many similar meetings with many people, no one even knew it happened. So if he did it for the publicity, he needs a new PR firm.

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Mon Jun 11, 2018, 02:17 PM

28. Remember when

Bernie claimed he was meeting the Pope?

Turned out he stood at the bottom of the steps so he could shake the Popeís hand as he walked by.

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Response to True Blue American (Reply #28)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 02:50 PM

37. Yup. Money & Media & never miss an opportunity

Can't wait for him to start attacking the Billionaire Class Media Empire that also trades on... wait for it....yup, Wall Street!


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Response to True Blue American (Reply #28)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 03:33 PM

41. At 6 AM as the Pope was rushing for the airport for a trip to Greece.

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Response to dembotoz (Reply #9)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 11:56 AM

17. ...

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 01:09 PM

18. The Article never mentioned the fact that Bernie requested

A meeting. He is not a Democrat. So to put his name at the top is poor Journalism.

Trying to pretend again.

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Response to True Blue American (Reply #18)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 01:35 PM

23. But that's Politico! And that's what the billionaire "Money & Media" is all about!

Why did you join the Democratic Party?
" For Money & Media". He replied.

That good old Billionaire Backed Business of "Money & Media."




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Response to True Blue American (Reply #18)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 02:31 PM

31. Wow, so this is more fake news?? Bernie had to request

a meeting? Amazing...

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Response to R B Garr (Reply #31)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 02:36 PM

33. It makes sense.

He is not an actual Democrat.

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Response to murielm99 (Reply #33)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 02:42 PM

34. You're right, It does make sense. For someone who insists on not being a Democrat,

he sure doesnít hesitate to get to the front of the line if itís to his advantage.

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Response to R B Garr (Reply #34)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 06:54 PM

65. HA!!!

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Response to murielm99 (Reply #33)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 03:02 PM

39. Reworded my post, you are right. nt

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Response to True Blue American (Reply #18)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 02:48 PM

36. Did you read the article? It does mention the fact that Bernie requested it.

Here's the excerpt:

Sanders, who has more respect for Obama and the work of his administration than is often portrayed, requested his meeting with the former president, held in mid-March, people told about that conversation confirmed.

They talked about the future of the party and their different roles in it. They talked about what the party should be focused on, and what would be distractions. Obama discussed his views on the differences between idealism and practicality, and Sanders responded with his.

They did not get into a specific discussion about whether Sanders would run again for president in 2020.

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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #36)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 02:57 PM

38. Respect? Bernie called for Obama to be Primaried!

Now he wants the benefit of a sit down with the man?
He doesn't respect him as much as he wants the publicity the man brings with him.

Same shit diff day.

Who was the secret insider to Politico that got the super duper secret info on the meeting before their own advisors got it?

Who wrote this bernie scoop.
Just wondering.
Seems like it was a publicity set up, in my opinion.

Somethings not quite right about this super duper top secret scoop.

Just sayin...


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Response to Wwcd (Reply #38)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 04:15 PM

45. Yeah, some "respect" when BS called for President Obama

to be primaried in 2012. And all the "respect" he's shown to our President.

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Response to Wwcd (Reply #38)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 06:58 PM

49. Sanders called for Obama to be Primaried? Not quite...

He did not call for it, though he said it might not be a bad thing. Details at:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/nov/10/martin-omalley/fact-checking-martin-omalleys-claim-bernie-sanders/

And to answer your other question, the person who wrote the article was someone named Edward-Isaac Dovere, and the Sanders portion was a very, very small part of the article.

The fact that you did not know who wrote it and thought it seemed like a publicity setup indicates to me taht you probably did not read the article. You might consider actually reading it before commenting on it further.

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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #49)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 07:17 PM

53. I'm well aware of the game being played.

When's bernie going after the Billionaire Corporatist Media Empire that also Trades on Wall Street?
(Bet he doesn't bite that hand .)

Have a nice evening.

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Response to Wwcd (Reply #53)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 07:52 PM

54. Taxpayers didn't bail out the corporate media,

among numerous other differences between Wall Street and media conglomerates. But media conglomerates are a whole other problem, and contrary to your proposition, Bernie has had plenty to say about them as well. For example:

http://inthesetimes.com/features/bernie-sanders-corporate-media-threatens-our-democracy.html

http://feelthebern.org/bernie-sanders-on-media-ownership-and-telecommunications/

You should try this thing called "google" some time.

(I literally found those just by googling: bernie sanders on media conglomerates)

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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #54)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 09:34 PM

56. Geezus...

Bye

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Response to Wwcd (Reply #53)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 03:52 AM

61. bet he doesnt bite that hand? he talks about it all the time. He criticizes the media in interviews


with the media. He should spend more time connecting the money to their reporting, that I agree with.

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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #49)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 07:51 PM

71. Bernie Sanders Says It Would Be A 'Good Idea' To Primary President Obama

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Response to Cha (Reply #71)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 07:58 PM

73. Yup he surely did Cha! Proudly even...as tho he was a better man than Barack Obama.

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Response to Wwcd (Reply #73)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 08:05 PM

74. Yeah.. No respect.. now

he's calling on President Obama?

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Response to Cha (Reply #71)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 08:14 PM

75. Yes, that info was in my link as well. Though it does not equate to no respect. (n/t)

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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #75)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 08:20 PM

76. It Most Certainly Does Equate "NO RESPECT"

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Response to Cha (Reply #76)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 09:28 PM

78. Sorry, I should have added "IMO."

But I think it is possible to respect someone, and still think some competition might help keep him tilting toward the directions you'd like to see him go. I don't believe one idea precludes the other.

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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #78)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 09:31 PM

79. And, that wasn't all he did that showed NO RESPECT for

President Obama, either.

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Response to Cha (Reply #79)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 09:38 PM

80. IMO, that would be a call for Obama to make.

Obama still met with him, so IF he felt disrespected, I guess he got over it.

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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #80)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 09:40 PM

81. President Obama is an honorable classy man.. I will

never forgive BS for his constantly dissing him.

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Response to Wwcd (Reply #38)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 07:53 PM

72. Tes, BS did.. no matter how much they're trying to rewrite history..

Bernie Sanders Says It Would Be A 'Good Idea' To Primary President Obama

https://thinkprogress.org/bernie-sanders-says-it-would-be-a-good-idea-to-primary-president-obama-313b4f05f3c1/

Over BullShit, too.

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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #36)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 03:07 PM

40. Who's account of the meeting is this? Unless its from Obama

It's exactly what it looks like.

Shmoozin with the top Dem.
Trust me. Bernie sanders isn't directing the Dem Party anywhere. Not while Pres Obama's leading the team.

I hope bernie told Obama about his wife's threat of taking his ball to another team if his demands weren't met.

He's not telling Pres Obama what to do with the Dem Party, so stop acting like this was some big shot super secret meetup.

Ask the Pope how these meetings with bernie go down.
He's outta his league.
We all see what this really was about.

Money & the Billionaire Media Empire that also trades on Wall Street.
Kind blows up that campaign schtick doesn't it?

Pffft

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Response to Wwcd (Reply #40)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 06:47 PM

48. Someone named Edward-Isaac Dovere.

But it seems to me that you're picking and choosing what pieces of the article to believe based on what pieces you want to believe.

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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #48)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 07:06 PM

51. Seems to me I know exactly what I'm talking about.

"Picking & choosing", nothing.
The article is based on bs.

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Response to thesquanderer (Reply #36)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 03:20 AM

60. Notice what happens when you point out a blatant falsehood in a Bernie-bash.

Does the author of the Bernie-bash thank you for the correction and retract the smear? HAHAHAHAHAHA.

No, what happens is that the Bernie-bash brigade spins off on a tangent into another of their endlessly recycled attacks.

It's like plowing the ocean with these people.

But thank you for trying.

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Response to True Blue American (Reply #18)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 07:05 PM

50. It did say he (Sanders) requested the meeting

 

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 04:09 PM

44. ".. Obama bristles..".. Oh yeah I can really

see that.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 09:15 PM

55. I wonder who leaked this. I don't see new names...

other than those who have already been rumored as interested.

I think Biden has a good chance.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 12:21 AM

67. Best advice remains: "it's the economy, stupid"

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Fri Jun 15, 2018, 12:26 AM

85. I appreciate President Obama's continued leadership and willingness to assist all of our candidates

I miss his presence in the White House every day.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sat Jun 16, 2018, 07:54 PM

93. Go Obama.

Guy is a power broker.

Smiles today will be frowns tomorrow. He fights for improvement, not perfection.

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