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Wed Jun 13, 2018, 08:49 AM

Not Paying

It's time for a not paying movement when it comes to the so-called greatest healthcare system in the world.

Don't pay for insurance.
Don't pay medical bills.
If you are in the medical profession, don't pay tuition and loans.
And if you want to pay, pay as slowly and as small as possible.

If Republicans are so much in love with the idea bringing back pre-existing conditions and letting health insurance companies pick who lives and who dies, then how about we pick to not pay?

Spread the word.

Not paying.

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Response to ck4829 (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 08:54 AM

1. I suspect the collection agencies would continue to operate.

Which would make it hard to really get this off the ground.

Bryant

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Response to el_bryanto (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 09:15 AM

4. Bingo. That is what happened to me. I wound up in the hospital for 6 days with bleeding ulcers

and no insurance (I was being responsible and paying off my student loans every month, instead of purchasing insurance right out of college) and when I asked if I could make payment arrangements, they told me no, they had sold my debt to a collection agency, likely for nearly what insurance would have paid.

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Response to ck4829 (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 09:00 AM

2. Love the idea.

I really do. The logistics of the personal financial ruin that could occur is more than I can personally bear. Iíve refinanced my home twice to pay deductibles and copayments when a tumor was discovered in my childís head that required two surgeries and a crap ton of follow up that goes on to his day. That was before the ACA. I was able to get good terms and rates because I have excellent credit - a result of hard work and a lifetime of living frugally and paying my bills. Iíve always been self insured and donít have many options. I have to be really careful. If I donít pay my bills, my child wonít get good care.

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Response to ck4829 (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 09:11 AM

3. I wish I could, but we have mortgaged our lives to pay my medical bills.

I can't afford to ruin our credit and then not be able to borrow again if we need to for my care. That is the reality of regular people in the United States.

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Response to ck4829 (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 09:19 AM

5. If you have a child with a medical condition, and you stop paying the medical bills and copays

your child won't get that ongoing care. Same with insurance premiums.

Maybe if you're young, healthy and have no dependents, that might sound easy.

Not so much for anyone else who tries to be a responsible parent or spouse to someone that needs ongoing medical care.

They can also ruin your credit. Again, if you're young, healthy and have no dependents, and don't need to purchase a car, that might sound like it's easy.

And how about prescription medications like insulin? Are people just supposed to stop paying for those, too?

You have to consider the consequences of any action like this on other people who aren't as privileged.

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Response to ck4829 (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:17 AM

6. That is not going to happen.

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Response to ck4829 (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:23 AM

7. Are you currently refusing to pay?

 

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Response to ck4829 (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 12:21 PM

8. Run that for a few months and let us know how it works out

 

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