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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBeware: Romney and The Right's New Lie: Obama Suing to Keep Soldiers from Voting (Update)
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This is a story on Breitbart, by editor/lying hack Mike Flynn, that a friend who's a Marine vet forwarded along to me (no links for liars):
Anyone who wants to can view the actual complaint filed against Ohio. But much like Mitt Romney with Jared Diamond's book, I'm pretty certain that Mike Flynn never actually bothered to read what he was citing.
Flynn claims that the lawsuit is an attempt:
That's a lie. The very first sentence of the actual complaint reads:
The request is simple and direct: expand early voting for all citizens, not just military members. In no universe is that the same as saying restrict early voting for all citizens, including military members. It's pretty much the opposite of that.
Next comes the claim that:
Insert chorus of Simon & Garfunkle's "The Boxer" here.
Anyone who wants to can view the actual complaint filed against Ohio. But much like Mitt Romney with Jared Diamond's book, I'm pretty certain that Mike Flynn never actually bothered to read what he was citing.
Flynn claims that the lawsuit is an attempt:
"to restrict [service members'] ability to vote in the upcoming election."
That's a lie. The very first sentence of the actual complaint reads:
Plaintiffs bring this lawsuit to restore in-person early voting for all Ohioans during the three days prior to Election Day a right exercised by an estimated 93,000 Ohioans in the last presidential election.
The request is simple and direct: expand early voting for all citizens, not just military members. In no universe is that the same as saying restrict early voting for all citizens, including military members. It's pretty much the opposite of that.
Next comes the claim that:
"the Obama for America Campaign, the Democratic National Committee and the Ohio Democratic Party filed suit in OH to strike down part of that state's law governing voting by members of the military."
Insert chorus of Simon & Garfunkle's "The Boxer" here.
Much more debunked RW nonsense here on this issue
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/03/1116257/-The-Right-s-New-Lie-Obama-Suing-to-Keep-Soldiers-from-Voting
RW Liars, it's all they have. Lies, and more lies. Their head OverLord is none other than Robotic Pinochhio himself, RMoney.
Oh look here is the Romney Campaign using this new lie:
Today on Facebook, Mitt Romney claims that the Obama campaign is trying to undermine the ability of members of the military to vote in Ohio:
This certainly sounds outrageous, but it is not true. Since 2005, Ohio has had in person early-voting in the three days prior to the election. This year, however, the Republican legislature in Ohio eliminated early voting during this period, except for members of the military. The Obama lawsuit is attempting to restore voting rights for all Ohioans, not restrict them for the military or any other group.
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The Obama campaigns request for a preliminary injunction does not seek to restrict military voting. Rather, it simply is asking that the full early voting period be open to all citizens, as it was under the law before this year.
Even Fox News acknowledges the purpose of the suit, noting the lawsuit does not restrict the ability of military personnel to cast their ballots early.
President Obamas lawsuit claiming it is unconstitutional for Ohio to allow servicemen and women extended early voting privileges during the states early voting period is an outrage. The brave men and women of our military make tremendous sacrifices to protect and defend our freedoms, and we should do everything we can to protect their fundamental right to vote. I stand with the fifteen military groups that are defending the rights of military voters, and if Im entrusted to be the commander-in-chief, Ill work to protect the voting rights of our military, not undermine them.
This certainly sounds outrageous, but it is not true. Since 2005, Ohio has had in person early-voting in the three days prior to the election. This year, however, the Republican legislature in Ohio eliminated early voting during this period, except for members of the military. The Obama lawsuit is attempting to restore voting rights for all Ohioans, not restrict them for the military or any other group.
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The Obama campaigns request for a preliminary injunction does not seek to restrict military voting. Rather, it simply is asking that the full early voting period be open to all citizens, as it was under the law before this year.
Even Fox News acknowledges the purpose of the suit, noting the lawsuit does not restrict the ability of military personnel to cast their ballots early.
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/08/04/640491/romney-smears-obama-falsely-claims-he-filed-lawsuit-to-restrict-military-voting-in-ohio/
Update Think Progress:
The Romney campaign is totally unable to back up their candidates claim:
Romneys spokesman, Ryan Williams, in an interview Saturday could point to no place in Obamas lawsuit that seeks to restrict the rights of military voters
Romneys legal counsel, Katie Biber, said creating two separate classes of Ohio voters does not violate the 14th Amendment, though she also did not offer evidence that Obamas lawsuit would make it tougher for members of the military to vote
Romneys legal counsel, Katie Biber, said creating two separate classes of Ohio voters does not violate the 14th Amendment, though she also did not offer evidence that Obamas lawsuit would make it tougher for members of the military to vote
TPM has picked up the story now:
Romney Falsely Accuses Obama Campaign Of Trying To Restrict Military Voting Rights
Mitt Romney attacked a lawsuit brought by President Obamas campaign seeking the restoration of early voting rights for Ohio voters by falsely implying that Obama is trying to take away the early voting privileges for members of the military.
President Obamas lawsuit claiming it is unconstitutional for Ohio to allow servicemen and women extended early voting privileges during the states early voting period is an outrage, Romney said in a statement Saturday.
Actually, the Obama campaigns lawsuit, filed by the campaign in mid-July, explicitly asks a federal court to restore in-person early voting rights to all eligible Ohio voters on the three days preceding Election Day.
The suit does not seek to prevent members of the military from voting in person during that period, rather it seeks to force Ohio to give other voters (including, for instance, cops and firefighters) the same opportunity to vote.
President Obamas lawsuit claiming it is unconstitutional for Ohio to allow servicemen and women extended early voting privileges during the states early voting period is an outrage, Romney said in a statement Saturday.
Actually, the Obama campaigns lawsuit, filed by the campaign in mid-July, explicitly asks a federal court to restore in-person early voting rights to all eligible Ohio voters on the three days preceding Election Day.
The suit does not seek to prevent members of the military from voting in person during that period, rather it seeks to force Ohio to give other voters (including, for instance, cops and firefighters) the same opportunity to vote.
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/08/romney-falsely-accuces-obama-campaign-of-trying-to-restrict-military-voting-rights.php
So has Media Matters:
Fox's Evening News Show Lies About Military Voting In Ohio
Special Report guest host Shannon Bream falsely claimed that the Obama campaign is suing to prevent military voters in Ohio from having extra time to cast their ballots. In reality, the lawsuit seeks to allow all voters in Ohio to cast their ballots during the window open to military personnel and their families. The lawsuit does not seek to restrict voting by military families in any way.
Correspondent Ed Henry followed with a misleading report that included a clip of Mitt Romney saying that it would be a disservice to members of the military to try to impede them from voting. But Henry did not cite any evidence that the lawsuit is intended to impede military voting.
As The Cincinnati Enquirer reported on July 18, "Now, only uniformed military personnel, their spouses and their voting-age dependents [in Ohio] can vote through Monday, the day before the Nov. 6 election. Everyone else must vote by the Friday before Election Day. The campaign says that means all Ohio voters aren't being treated fairly and that's a violation of the U.S. Constitution's equal protection clause" (via Nexis).
Correspondent Ed Henry followed with a misleading report that included a clip of Mitt Romney saying that it would be a disservice to members of the military to try to impede them from voting. But Henry did not cite any evidence that the lawsuit is intended to impede military voting.
As The Cincinnati Enquirer reported on July 18, "Now, only uniformed military personnel, their spouses and their voting-age dependents [in Ohio] can vote through Monday, the day before the Nov. 6 election. Everyone else must vote by the Friday before Election Day. The campaign says that means all Ohio voters aren't being treated fairly and that's a violation of the U.S. Constitution's equal protection clause" (via Nexis).
http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/08/03/foxs-evening-news-show-lies-about-military-voti/189122
From Slate:
No, the Obama Campaign Isn't Trying to Take the Vote Away from Soldiers
Fifteen military organizations want to intervene in Obama v. Halsted, a lawsuit filed by the president's campaign in Ohio. The Obama filing claims that special early voting rights violate the 14th Amendment; the org leaders read that, and worry that their votes are in danger. Mitt Romney is with them.
That's all good, but the Obama campaign doesn't disagree with it. Here's the backstory. In the run-up to 2008, Democrats, who briefly ran the Secretary of State's office in Ohio, expanded early voting so that anyone could show up at polling sites in the days before the election. In 2011, the new Republican legislature and Secretary of State rolled this back. Early voting would now end on the Friday before election day. So the Obama campaign sued. This is how its argument begins.
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If it wins, veterans will be able to vote early and so will everybody else in Ohio. To clear that up, the campaign filed a motion supporting the 15 military groups, reaffirming that "neither the substance of its Equal Protection claim, nor the relief requested, challenges the legislatures authority to make appropriate accommodation, including early voting during the period in question, for military voters, their spouses or dependents."
President Obama's lawsuit claiming it is unconstitutional for Ohio to allow servicemen and women extended early voting privileges during the states early voting period is an outrage. The brave men and women of our military make tremendous sacrifices to protect and defend our freedoms, and we should do everything we can to protect their fundamental right to vote.
That's all good, but the Obama campaign doesn't disagree with it. Here's the backstory. In the run-up to 2008, Democrats, who briefly ran the Secretary of State's office in Ohio, expanded early voting so that anyone could show up at polling sites in the days before the election. In 2011, the new Republican legislature and Secretary of State rolled this back. Early voting would now end on the Friday before election day. So the Obama campaign sued. This is how its argument begins.
...
If it wins, veterans will be able to vote early and so will everybody else in Ohio. To clear that up, the campaign filed a motion supporting the 15 military groups, reaffirming that "neither the substance of its Equal Protection claim, nor the relief requested, challenges the legislatures authority to make appropriate accommodation, including early voting during the period in question, for military voters, their spouses or dependents."
http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2012/08/04/no_the_obama_campaign_isn_t_trying_to_take_the_vote_away_from_soldiers.html
Snopes has ruled it false
http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/military.asp
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Beware: Romney and The Right's New Lie: Obama Suing to Keep Soldiers from Voting (Update) (Original Post)
SunsetDreams
Aug 2012
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RedStateLiberal
(1,374 posts)1. Romney is spreading this lie on his Facebook page.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/125164309
Has he finally jumped the shark by using this blatant lie?
Has he finally jumped the shark by using this blatant lie?
SunsetDreams
(8,571 posts)2. You must have seen that about the same time
I have added it to my OP.
RedStateLiberal
(1,374 posts)3. TPM has picked up the story now
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/08/romney-falsely-accuces-obama-campaign-of-trying-to-restrict-military-voting-rights.php
Sure hope calling him out for this lie has legs. If only we can get the M$M to pay attention and hold him accountable.
Sure hope calling him out for this lie has legs. If only we can get the M$M to pay attention and hold him accountable.
SunsetDreams
(8,571 posts)4. Thanks for that link
I hope it has legs too.
RedStateLiberal
(1,374 posts)6. Slate has it too:
SunsetDreams
(8,571 posts)5. .
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)7. Here's Mark Halperin not bothering to report it as a lie:
SunsetDreams
(8,571 posts)8. Poor reporting
I can't say I'm surprised.
Cha
(297,154 posts)12. Halperin's a
"dick"..he knows nothing but how to be one.
DLine
(397 posts)9. Around 1/3 or a little less of the responses on facebook are callimng Romney a liar!
Feel free to join in. You don't have to like the page to comment.
SunsetDreams
(8,571 posts)10. Snopes ruled it false
SunsetDreams
(8,571 posts)11. kick