Call me crazy, Hillary Clinton for president in 2020.

[Chickensoup]

I have been watching the Rachel Maddow Show on CNBC covering the Inspector General report. I am livid and saddened by the injustice done to Hillary Clinton. We all as a nation owe her an apology for actions taken by the Trump, the GOP and the media.
Call me crazy I do not care, but I believe that if she run for president she can win this time hands down and the nation will vote for her with the exception of the deplorables. I believe under her leadership with all we now know of this corrupt president and administration the Gop will suffer their worst defeat in history and they deserve it.
Think about it seriously !!!!!

[manor321]

1. No

No Clinton. No Sanders. No Biden.

I want young, energetic and new to get young people to the polls, like Obama did.

[lunamagica]

20. I want her experience, brilliance and widsom

[onetexan]

84. Ditto

And i 'm not crazy

[DonCoquixote]

109. only if she uses that wisdom

Not to hire washed up has beens like she who was fired to run her campaign.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

2. You're crazy!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. OK. You're crazy.

[TheCowsCameHome]

4. No.

Not a good idea.

Look forward.

[Mike Nelson]

5. Well...

… crazier things have happened.

[R B Garr]

6. Heck, it's crossed my mind. Just now watching Rachel and news of the day

after being out all day, and I'm stunned at how positive Hillary looks in all of this. Complete exonerations and, as you said, the outline of injustice done to Hillary shows how incredibly strong and competent she is.

It is maddening and looking back while it was happening, it was beyond vicious. She was attacked from a foreign country, the GOP, dark money, the FBI AND the left, one of whom fabricated character assassinations against her that we know were used by the Trump campaign. She is such a strong woman.

[BigmanPigman]

7. She would have been a damned good POTUS too!

[R B Garr]

18. She would have been phenomenal. A real shining example of

personal and professional accomplishment and competence. SIGH.

[rock]

8. You may be crazy

But you're not wrong. What you have to realize is: if the people don't elect Hillary as president, they don't deserve her.

[Bleacher Creature]

9. I'd support her in a heartbeat, but I doubt that she'd do it.

I think she's truly done with running for office. The only way I could see it happening is if there's some last minute crisis, scandal, etc. where she'd need to step in for someone else.

[triron]

13. Yep.

[The Genealogist]

15. Agree

I too would happily and heartily support her if she ran. But I also think, as you do, that she's done with that.

[onetexan]

85. She has said she's open to challenging election results

If it came to light there was collusion to steal the election. We've never had such a situation so who knows? She might just win because of that.

[babylonsister]

10. Cray cray. nt

[lunamagica]

11. I don't think she'd run agaim, but if she does, I'll suppoer her 100 percent

[bluestarone]

17. THIS 100%

After what she went through, SHE DESERVES IT!!!!!!!!! Why would we deny her, IF SHE CHOOSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Hortensis]

25. Me too.

I'm not quite with Bluestarone's enthusiastic thought, though. No politician is owed the presidency, not even Hillary, or perhaps certainly not even Hillary. It's an enormous honor and duty, and those who accept owe the people everything they have to give.

[pandr32]

65. She should be running for her 2nd term

Her family charity is genuine and still helping people all around the world...unlike others' foundations and charities. Her mission has always been to make a positive difference.

[tonyt53]

12. She would be glad to run a smokescreen for somebody else, then campaign for them.

She knows her time has come and gone. This country wasted an opportunity and now we are paying dearly for it.

[Squinch]

80. Excellent idea. Whoever runs, the bots and Russians and Republicans will cheat and go after.

If she is in the picture, she would draw off their destruction.

[Wwcd]

14. Hillary & the amazing women & men who surround her, in this

country & throughout the world would be the wisest, most insightful group to usher in a future of forward planning and have the collective wisdom & knowledge to make it universal law.

And Hillary & Angela could take pleasure in squeazing Vlad & Assad & the other rogue anti-humanitarian criminal mobsters in the same compact box together. Freeing the people of their countries.
US & our Allies would never again be left vulnerable under the vision of these great leaders of peace & humanity.

This would undoubtedly be their focus & they both know how the game is played.

Hillary would be the perfect person to heal the damage done & then turn her sights on those who would so harm this world.

Yes. I would vote & campaign & chear her on again & again.

#Still4Hill

[Hortensis]

21. +1000.

And if she chooses not to run, and she wouldn't if she didn't think she could win, I'd like her back in government, preferably domestically this time, empowered by the president to make many of her big plans happen. The ones so tragically delayed.

[Wwcd]

29. President Kamala Harris could create a brand new dept for HRC to create, orgainze & fun

Something like Dept of Global Human Rights

Something she can build stong alliances around.

Or whatever she likes

[Hortensis]

32. Well, given the horrible global mess Trump-Putin are

creating, perhaps she would need to be in foreign policy. Wouldn't that be a nice present for Putin?

Elizabeth Warren, then, for our 21st-century version of FDR's astoundingly capable SecLabor, Frances Perkins.

[Wwcd]

43. Yes Foreign Policy does suit her considering the many alliances she made as Sec of State

I like your powerhouse lineup.
Vlad would run away like a cowardly little punk & hide in Siberia when he saw this team coming at him.

[Hortensis]

81. Not sure America would given we haven't even elected

our first female VP, much less president. But it would absolutely be a powerhouse.

Reminding me of someone whose job involved monitoring and troubleshooting public schools. He had nothing against male principals and was speaking generally, but he told me they tended to accept and work around difficult problems, such as bad but tenured teachers. Female principals fixed the problem.

[Eko]

16. I'd vote for her again.

[RandomAccess]

19. No, no, no, please no

As wonderful as she no doubt is, she is STILL hated by too much of the people who didn't vote for her last time. That will not change much if at all. There is STILL all that toxicity about and against her out there, and Russia already has a really successful playbook already made.

[Wwcd]

39. Haters would love her after Trump gets done with this country.

And piss on those who don't want her.

65 million people matter too. 65 million who were denied fairness of elections by a foreign well coordinated coup.

If Trump had won fair & square there wouldn't be the need for justice.
But he didn't and the nation & world suffered because of it.

She & 65 million people are damned sure owed a righting of this serious wrong.
The strength of our history & faith in our future is owed it to be made right.

[bluestarone]

41. AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Wwcd]

47. Damn straight! The US needs to write it in the history books that we will never be cowards to this

..degree of injustice.

It must be made right in the eyes of the world & in this great nation.
65 million people are owed justice & there's only one way to do so.
Hillary Clinton.
Make it right for her.

[cynatnite]

22. I'd love it, but I think she's done. n/t

[samnsara]

23. We don't deserve her. But I would love an ambassador ship to the un!

[jcgoldie]

24. I'm in...

100%

[trueblue2007]

26. i would VOTE FOR HILLARY !!

[bluestarone]

27. We can't let putin win!!!!!!!

1000000% for Hillary!!! SHE can kick ass this time around!!!!!!!!!!!

[lunamagica]

40. That the thing that gets me the most. These people wanted her out of the way, and they succeeded

She was honest and played fair, they used evey dirty trick, and it worked.

It galls me that this injustice will prevail, no matter what.

[bluestarone]

42. Man you read my mind!!!! FULLY AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Lisa0825]

28. She was robbed.

But I still don't want her to run again. I want someone younger. But I would vote for her, I would vote for Bernie, I would vote for Uncle Joe, or I would vote for that damned proverbial yellow dawg in the general.

[BeyondGeography]

30. There have been worse ideas

But not many.

[peggysue2]

31. Though I would vote for her again without hesitation, I do not think . . .

HRC has any interest in putting herself through the meat grinder, again.

We lost a tremendous opportunity to move the country forward in a progressive direction when the Imposter-in-Chief was installed in the WH. It was a cheat, a steal and illegitimate election. But Hillary has spoken to the situation--constitutionally there is simply no way to correct an illegitimate election and she has no interest in running again.

She deserves her life back and the opportunity to choose her own course. She is still active and vocal and has a lot of energy left to give. Just no longer in the political arena.

So yes, I'd love to see here there. But it's not going to happen. We have other candidates to choose from and the strongest will be our 2020 nominee to whom I will give my full support.

After we win the midterms, of course

[GoCubsGo]

33. She said she is not running again.

Enough already.

Trashing this thread.

[still_one]

34. She should have been president, and would have been if it wasn't because of lies, distortions,

interference by both foreign and domestic elements, but unfortunately it isn't going to happen, and my heart is broken, not just because the election was interfered with and stolen, but because of the damage that the country is going through, and will incur for a very long time I am afraid

[Power 2 the People]

35. The Dem that wins should make HRC the Attorney General

Take no prisoners, just like the Repugs. She'll bury them all. Sweet revenge.

[lindysalsagal]

36. No no no no no no no.

We're in real trouble and can't afford another loss.

[jalan48]

37. No thanks.

[donco]

38. OK!

You're crazy!

[onenote]

44. +1

[a kennedy]

45. Ah, Rachel is MSNBC....

just a heads up.

[NY_20th]

46. You have to laugh at some of the relunctance in this thread.

She would certainly be the frontrunner, again, if she chose to.

But no, I don't believe she will run for office again. But she will do everything she possibly can to help us win back the House, Senate and White House in the future.

[obnoxiousdrunk]

48. Crazy.

[Cracklin Charlie]

49. I can get behind that!

[bluestarone]

50. I at least like the feeling that i have that

If she decided and was the nominee EVERYONE here would accept her!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[thucythucy]

51. If there was any justice in the world

that is precisely what would happen, but I think at this point it's, sadly, very unlikely.

[democratisphere]

52. No one will find a better or more competent presidential candidate than HRC.

Sadly, America doesn't have the competence to elect HER!

[Midwestern Democrat]

53. Not a chance. NT

[shraby]

54. From the first day she would take office, the republicans would be investigating in order

to try to impeach her.

[doc03]

55. Yep you are crazy! nt

[StevieM]

56. I love Hillary and am proud of her for running such an outstanding campaign in 2016.

Ultimately, the election wasn't winnable--she was thoroughly swift-boated. And it has gotten even worse since the election has ended. So we need a new nominee. Besides, we don't even know if she was going to run for a second term if she had won.

I like Tom Steyer for president in 2020.

[brooklynite]

57. Knnowng what I know about her campaign? No way...

I supported her, I funded her, I volunteered for her, I put her staff up in my house. But I know things about how her campaign team approached the election that helped decrease any chance she had at winning.

[NY_20th]

58. Will you share this information,

or are you just throwing innuendo out there?

[brooklynite]

64. I've spoken to Party Chairs and allied SuperPac managers...

The most significant strategic error the campaign made, which biased every tactical decision afterwards was to assume that an Obama voter would become a Clinton voter, and thus nothing was done to CONFIRM that those voters were in her camp; instead, the campaign spent early months signing up new voters (admirable, but very costly in terms of volunteer time) and studying expansion of the electoral college map into places like Georgia and Arizona. As a result, when I did canvassing in Cleveland, OH the week before the Election, the voter lists which should have been completely scrubbed and including only committed Democrats, were a mess of wrong addresses and non-committal voters.

The second major mistake was to invest heavily in a national television ad campaign which focused on how bad Trump was. They spent very little on better targeted digital media, and never framed an argument about why Clinton was a better choice.

[emulatorloo]

70. Hindsight is 20/20

“the campaign spent early months signing up new voters (admirable, but very costly in terms of volunteer time) and studying expansion of the electoral college map into places like Georgia and Arizona. ”

Signing up new voters sounds like a great idea. You are only able to say it is a bad idea because you can Monday Morning Quarterback w hindsight.

You also ignore the impact of the Comey letter and Cambridge Analytic pushing Putin propaganda.

[brooklynite]

90. No, voter registration is a bad idea for a PRESIDENTIAL campaign...

..
Because it’s time consuming for limited return (meaning your volunteers aren’t doing something more useful, and because OTHER groups exist to register voters.

As for the Comey letter, it had impact only because the race was closer than it should have been, and because it reinforced a belief that a share of the voters already held.

[former9thward]

95. brooklynite is correct.

Voter registration should never be done in a Presidential campaign. People are unregistered for a reason. They don't want to vote. Voter registration by a campaign is an exhausting labor intensive one on one project. So you spend all this time trying to register people who don't want to vote and guess what? They don't bother voting on election day. Voting is a habit. Not voting is also a habit and a hard one to break.

[DonCoquixote]

110. The Blue wall

that (she was has fired) belived would save us, crushed us...that is enough

[triron]

59. Perhas your experience was disappointing, but

I don't think there is better qualified candidate, period.

[Devil Child]

60. Respectfully, no.

Clinton as a Democratic candidate brings nothing but continued and assured GOP victories.

[Tarc]

62. Just...no. She was screwed royally, Clinton erangement Syndrome is a real and dangerous thing, but..

no, I think the moment has passed, we can't keep refighting the same fights.

I as a Gen X'er have lived under the shadow of the baby boomers for as long as I can remember. I'm tired of their politics, tired of fighting over Vietnam and a million other ancient histories.

Sorry to be ageist, but I'm done. Kamala Harris, Gavin Newsom, Cory Booker, and the like are the future of the party.

Move On.

[redstateblues]

63. Bad idea

[Raine]

66. NO, absolutely NO

I want someone new and I say the same for Bernie who I supported in the primaries but ... no retreads!

[Dopers_Greed]

67. Please no

She has become radioactive. The RW is mainly responsible for this though years of propaganda, but it would guarantee another 4 years of Trump and worse.

[leftofcool]

68. I would vote for her again in a heartbeat

Truthfully, the country does not deserve Hillary.

[blue-wave]

69. Well Hell YES!!!

She deserved it then and deserves it now and in the future. She is the most qualified individual ever to run for President. Our country has lost sooo much with the results of the fiasco that was the last national election. We, as a country, deserve Hillary as President!!!

[BlueTsunami2018]

71. This is beyond crazy.

While she absolutely should be a President right now, running her again is a death wish.

[Demovictory9]

72. ...

[tinrobot]

74. For president NOW. In 2018

The office was stolen from her.

Give it back.

[onetexan]

86. Ditto

[Lil Missy]

75. you may be right; you may be crazy

but it just may be a lunatic we're waiting for.


ba-da-boom!

[TimeSnowDemos]

76. No

It would be a lousy idea.

Not that she deserves it, but the last time I checked she's still less popular than Trump in the polls..

Plus there's loads of new blood that deserves a chance.

[DetlefK]

77. You're crazy.

Too much baggage. Too many distractions from her message. The election would be a referendum on HRC, not on Trump.

[VOX]

78. There would be some justice in having her as president of ALL American citizens.

And no one would be better qualified (and connected) to restore our malfunctioning government in the swiftest time-frame. It'd be downright poetic to see her signing a sheaf of executive orders, each one reversing a Trump-edict. She'd need more Democrats in the Senate and Congress, though.

But it's way too early to go there. So much can happen yet, so first things first: VOTE Democratic in November!

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

79. No. No. No.

It's hard to know where to start.

1. She would NOT wind hands down. Her supporters here seriously underestimate how hated she was in so many places. Those people are not going to suddenly love her.

2. She will be 73 years old in 2020.

3. We desperately need new, younger politicians in office. One of the reasons Republicans have been so successful in the past 20 years or so is that they've recruited young people to run for office. The average age of Republican House leadership is some 11 years less than Democrats. That's a lot. People have got to stop going for the old, tried and true. One of the genuinely disturbing things, in my opinion, is that certain Democrats who are well into their 70s -- or even into their 80s -- are being lauded as exemplaries of Democratic leadership. I disagree. It's time they stepped aside.

4. Probably the most important thing is that she made it quite clear that she is not interested in running again. Respect that.

5. She is a polarizing figure. Do not snap back at me that it's not her fault, or that Republicans need to accept her. It doesn't work that way. Right or wrong, she's a polarizing figure. It would make a lot more sense to nominate someone who will bring the country together.

6. Stop living in the past. Trump is President. Stop focusing on why or how he became President. Work to elect Democrats in every possible office this November, and work to elect a genuinely unifying Democrat as President in 2020. And by working to elect Democrats I mean: run for office yourself; do voter registration; campaign door-to-door for Democrats; work phone banks. In short, stop whining about Hillary's loss and move on.

[Locrian]

96. THIS. I can't even believe we're talking about it .... n/t

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

97. I know.

I've actually been on DU since pretty much the beginning, and every single election cycle there is a huge surge for whoever the previous losing candidate was. It's disturbing that so many don't look at things like the candidate is now at least four years older, there was a reason why the candidate lost, and most of all: new people should be moving into power.

[Crabby Appleton]

82. You're crazy. Nt

[Jim Lane]

83. Al Gore deserves at least one term as President. His claim is prior to hers.

As a practical matter, however, it's overwhelmingly likely that neither of them will ever hold the office. Life is not a Hollywood movie where all wrongs are righted at the end.

[Meowmee]

87. She isn't going to run again

She did win the election though by 3million and the rest was a narrow fraudulent margin. She is the real president, not that fake lunatic who along with his band of fellow traitors and crooks is destroying the government and the country.

[JesterCS]

88. Hell no

[DFW]

89. Not crazy, just wishful thinking.

(We should be so lucky!)

[Vinca]

91. No. Without going into yet another long analysis of the 2016 primary, we need new blood.

[OnDoutside]

92. There's nothing I would love more, but it is time to move on with a younger, dynamic candidate, free

from 25 year Republican tainting. They will of course attack that new candidate, but it won't have seeped into the American psyche that they succeeded with Hillary.

[arenean]

93. NO!!

All you'd get is EIGHT YEARS of Trump!

[Runningdawg]

94. Certifiable

Ultimately I WILL vote for the person that receives the nomination but up until that point I will not support anyone who should have retired 25 years ago.

[earthshine]

98. I would not vote for her in the primary. I do not owe her an apology. nt

[Ace Rothstein]

99. No thanks.

I'd prefer we actually win in 2020.

[obliviously]

100. Yah boy she is my first choice

She is overflowing with youthful charm and energy.

[lunamagica]

102. Is that what you look for in a president?

[obliviously]

107. It worked out well for Barack

Certainly, you are not insinuating she has no energy, are you blind?

[Miles Archer]

101. Another face-off with Trump? No.

I'm sure she'd be the first person to tell you that it would be a mistake.

[janterry]

103. No

n/t

[PJMcK]

104. I'd vote for her again

But the Democratic candidate won't be Hilary Clinton. And it most likely won't be the obvious names bandied about in this thread.

[democrank]

105. No

[argyl]

106. If she were President now as she should be US politics would be awfully boring.

Competence, integrity, choosing qualified people as opposed to what we have now.

I'd vote for her again in a heartbeat but she said she wasn't running again and I think she means it.

[madville]

108. Absolutely not

As far as popularity with the voting public, her numbers mirror Trump, people either love her or hate her and are very set in their ways. She will always be a bad general election candidate for that reason, she automatically starts off with 50% of the country hating her.

We need someone young and fresh without those negative numbers right out of the gate.

[treestar]

111. Not crazy remember she would have been

Running for re-election in 2020 and people might reconsider staying home and not taking it for granted that she would win or even mad Bernie voters who voted for Stein. The disaster that resulted has woken everyone up.

[hoffyburger]

112. Running

She's going to run, Amy isn't catching fire