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sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 03:59 PM Jun 2018

Joe Kennedy : Arrived in Tornillo TX where first tent city for kids has gone up.Refused entry.




Arrived in Tornillo TX where first tent city for kids has gone up. Was refused entrance by HHS. Given amount of misinformation and conflicting info coming from Trump Admin, it’s critical that Congress and American public know exactly how these children are treated by our system.

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Keep going, we need some secret camera work in there.
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Joe Kennedy : Arrived in Tornillo TX where first tent city for kids has gone up.Refused entry. (Original Post) sunonmars Jun 2018 OP
dems visited center in new jersey. windows covered w paper so they could not see in Demovictory9 Jun 2018 #1
Now here is what potential presidential candidates do...... a kennedy Jun 2018 #2
yes kennedy wants to keep the prisons open for potheads questionseverything Jun 2018 #22
Positive persistence. EndGOPPropaganda Jun 2018 #25
Get yourself bigly arrested, sir. I mean that. What would MLK do? nt Hekate Jun 2018 #3
+2000 raven mad Jun 2018 #28
Every Dem Congressperson needs to visit a detention center. Tatiana Jun 2018 #4
Yes! Duppers Jun 2018 #5
Having spent my career working for the KPN Jun 2018 #6
Thanks for the post. Wellstone ruled Jun 2018 #8
Ah, but they don't *have* to be responsive to Dem Congressionals right now...so they aren't. Crash2Parties Jun 2018 #10
Yes, that's what I've always heard from friends who mountain grammy Jun 2018 #18
Where are the congressional investigations. HHS heads need to roll. ancianita Jun 2018 #7
I don't believe ORR should be responsible for tracking the kids, myself ... mr_lebowski Jun 2018 #12
summon the so and sos . if they dont , hold them in contemtive congress. AllaN01Bear Jun 2018 #9
Yes, it Is "Critical"!!.. Thank you, Joe Kennedy! Cha Jun 2018 #11
How are Congress members denied entry? OliverQ Jun 2018 #13
we already know they're being tortured barbtries Jun 2018 #14
Thanks, Congressman Kennedy. rec, nt. Mc Mike Jun 2018 #15
The living Presidents should each show up at a different DeminPennswoods Jun 2018 #16
+1000 Writing them now! flibbitygiblets Jun 2018 #21
This pisses me off as well. Volaris Jun 2018 #17
If Putin wanted in IQ45 would let him in. nt Ilsa Jun 2018 #19
What are they hiding? What are we not allowed to see that they are doing, in OUR name, with OUR $? flibbitygiblets Jun 2018 #20
K&R Scurrilous Jun 2018 #23
There was a report that these camps are in desperate need of workers...they are advertising so Trek4Truth Jun 2018 #24
Free the children and prosecute their captors. C_U_L8R Jun 2018 #26
Kennedy should be like........... Takket Jun 2018 #27
This eerily reminds me of a story of the father of a German friend of mine. DFW Jun 2018 #29

a kennedy

(29,647 posts)
2. Now here is what potential presidential candidates do......
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 04:07 PM
Jun 2018

God love him.........and damn HHS, Congress, the White House, and that horrible horrible orange piece of shit.

questionseverything

(9,651 posts)
22. yes kennedy wants to keep the prisons open for potheads
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 09:48 PM
Jun 2018

what is happening now to immigrants is horrid but politicians like freaking kennedy have been all too happy to separate and incarcerate families in the "war on drugs" for decades now


he is no hero

EndGOPPropaganda

(1,117 posts)
25. Positive persistence.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 10:44 PM
Jun 2018

Kennedy and his family have fought the war on “drugs” really the war on black people for years.

Remember who fueled the War On Drugs/Minorities - REPUBLICANS.

George Bush Sr.
Reagan (“young bucks”)
And Richard Nixon

Were all prominent supporters of that “War”.

If you want to stop the war on minorities the first order of business is voting Republicans out of office.


Remember what Nixon’s aide Ehrlichman said:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/03/23/politics/john-ehrlichman-richard-nixon-drug-war-blacks-hippie/index.html


The Nixon campaign in 1968, and the Nixon White House after that, had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people," former Nixon domestic policy chief John Ehrlichman told Harper's writer Dan Baum for the April cover story published Tuesday.

"You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin. And then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities," Ehrlichman said. "We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."


That was a REPUBLICAN.

Know who is hurting you: Republicans.

Hekate

(90,643 posts)
3. Get yourself bigly arrested, sir. I mean that. What would MLK do? nt
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 04:09 PM
Jun 2018

NOT IN MY NAME, YOU EVIL BASTARDS

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
4. Every Dem Congressperson needs to visit a detention center.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 04:18 PM
Jun 2018

Camp out there. Bring sympathizers. Don't leave until they are allowed entry.

KPN

(15,642 posts)
6. Having spent my career working for the
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 04:55 PM
Jun 2018

federal government and knowing how responsive federal agencies are to Congressionals, this is like being in another world to me. My experience was 180 degrees different; we bent over backwards to accommodate federal legislators AND their staff. HHS is obviously very aware of how reprehensible this program is.

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
10. Ah, but they don't *have* to be responsive to Dem Congressionals right now...so they aren't.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 05:23 PM
Jun 2018

We have no checks & balances anymore between parties & only the barest scraping between the Judicial & Exec + Legislative. And that Judicial check is growing weaker every time the GOP seats another judge to a seat they blocked filling for years during the Obama admin.

This is a coup. Not openly violent by the military, but a takeover of our government that results in violence none the less.

mountain grammy

(26,619 posts)
18. Yes, that's what I've always heard from friends who
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 06:08 PM
Jun 2018

worked in federal offices. Thanks for the info.

ancianita

(36,023 posts)
7. Where are the congressional investigations. HHS heads need to roll.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 05:05 PM
Jun 2018
... In 2016, a published US Senate report revealed that several dozen unaccompanied children from Central America, some as young as fourteen years old, were released from custody to traffickers where they were sexually assaulted, starved or forced to work for little or no pay.[13] The HHS sub agency Office of Refugee Resettlement (ORR) released approximately 90,000 unaccompanied children during 2013-2015 but did not track their whereabouts or properly screen families accepting these children.[14]

To prevent similar episodes, the Homeland Security and Health and Human Services Departments signed a memorandum of understanding in 2016, and agreed to establish joint procedures within one year for dealing with unaccompanied migrant children. As of 2018 they have failed to do so.

Between October and December 2017, officials from ORR tried to contact 7,635 children and their sponsors. From these calls, officials learned that 6,075 children remained with their sponsors. Twenty-eight had run away, five had been removed from the United States and fifty-two had relocated to live with a non sponsor. However, officials have lost track of 1,475 children.[15] ORR claims it is not legally liable for the safety and status of the children once released from custody..
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Health_and_Human_Services#Criticisms_and_controversies
 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
12. I don't believe ORR should be responsible for tracking the kids, myself ...
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 05:26 PM
Jun 2018

They should be HIGHLY responsible for establishing the highest possible level of screening measures, and they should be made to report to the local CPS agencies each and every case where a child is NOT being placed with a parent or grandparent, and all such kids should be tracked in accordance with the applicable laws in the areas in which they are sent.

Basically any kid not sent to live with a known, verifiable CLOSE relative should be tracked by local authorities just like if they were any other kid not living with parent/grandparent. If they're essentially 'foster kids' then they should be tracked like any other foster kids, by the state they're living in.

I don't personally like the idea of the Federal government and esp. not the 'border' authorities ... being in charge of this function. Once they're accepted into this country and given official asylum/citizenship, they should be treated henceforth just like any other child in the USA.

AFAIC, ORR should do everything possible to put them in proper homes, let the local authorities know that they're there so they can tracked if appropriate, and then more or less forget they existed. They're not in their purview any longer, they're just American kids, like any other.

Just MHO, fwiw ...

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
14. we already know they're being tortured
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 05:48 PM
Jun 2018

by being taken away from all that is familiar, namely their parents.

DeminPennswoods

(15,278 posts)
16. The living Presidents should each show up at a different
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 05:54 PM
Jun 2018

dentention center. I realize GHW Bush's health would prevent him, but there's no reason Carter, Clinton, GW Bush and Obama couldn't do so.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
17. This pisses me off as well.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 06:03 PM
Jun 2018

Congress is a COEQUAL branch of government, and they've abdicated so much Power over to the Executive Branch that they're not ALLOWED to go somewhere that they paid for ON OUR BEHALF???. Nah. Homie don't play dat.

Congress needs to start breaking executive branch balls and re exerting their own legit Power. If a deputized member of The Judiciary (ANY JUDICIARY, AT ANY LEVEL) had been told no or refused entry on Court business, I can PROMISE you, that relevant Court would crack some fuckin beauracratic heads open. THIS kinda shit is why the other problem exists in the first place: Congress CANNOT be worthless.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
20. What are they hiding? What are we not allowed to see that they are doing, in OUR name, with OUR $?
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 06:50 PM
Jun 2018

It's time to start protesting in the streets, people.

 

Trek4Truth

(515 posts)
24. There was a report that these camps are in desperate need of workers...they are advertising so
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 10:19 PM
Jun 2018

I sincerely hope we have people going undercover.

C_U_L8R

(44,997 posts)
26. Free the children and prosecute their captors.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 10:57 PM
Jun 2018

Every last one. Down to the adminstrative staff.
There is no excuse for these heinous crimes.
No 'just taking orders.' No leniency.

DFW

(54,341 posts)
29. This eerily reminds me of a story of the father of a German friend of mine.
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 02:40 AM
Jun 2018

He was drafted into the German army during World War Two and sent to the Russian front. Thia family is from a small town near Osnabrück. One time, on leave back home, he and a few friends heard about a big installation not far from where they lived, but never allowed anyone in or out without special authorization. They decided to take a look, so the walked the few kilometers to where it was supposed to be.

Sure enough, after a while, they came to a huge installation surrounded by several layers of high barbed wire fences and lots of guard posts. They went up to a guard near the outside and asked what the place was.

The guard told them, "once you are in here, you stay in here. Forget you asked, forget you ever saw this place, and go back to where you came from right now."

After the war, our friend's father, who managed to survive, found out what the place was. It was the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp.

It sounds like Sessions is trying to set up similar installations in the good old USA. Keeping people out may be feasible, but keeping these places quiet in the age of drones, cell phones and the internet will not be in the cards. If Trump and Sessions are looking to be charged with crimes against humanity before the Hague Tribunal, they are well on their way, and I doubt that the next Democratic administration will be willing to keep such proceedings "off the table." Not this time.

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