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RandySF

(58,387 posts)
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 10:33 PM Jun 2018

"She had to teach other kids in the cell to change her diaper,"

An advocate who spent several hours in the facility Friday said she was deeply troubled by what she found.

Michelle Brane, director of migrant rights at the Women's Refugee Commission, met with a 16-year-old girl who had been taking care of a young girl for three days. The teen and others in their cage thought the girl was 2 years old.

"She had to teach other kids in the cell to change her diaper," Brane said.


Brane said that after an attorney started to ask questions, agents found the girl's aunt and reunited the two. It turned out that the girl was actually 4 years old. Part of the problem was that she didn't speak Spanish, but K'iche, a language indigenous to Guatemala.

"She was so traumatized that she wasn't talking," Brane said. "She was just curled up in a little ball."

Brane said she also saw officials at the facility scold a group of 5-year-olds for playing around in their cage, telling them to settle down. There are no toys or books.

But one boy nearby wasn't playing with the rest. According to Brane, he was quiet, clutching a piece of paper that was a photocopy of his mother's ID card.

"The government is literally taking kids away from their parents and leaving them in inappropriate conditions," Brane said. "If a parent left a child in a cage with no supervision with other 5-year-olds, they'd be held accountable."

Dr. Colleen Kraft, the head of the American Academy of Pediatrics, said that she visited a small shelter in Texas recently, which she declined to identity. A toddler inside the 60-bed facility caught her eye — she was crying uncontrollably and pounding her little fists on mat.


https://www.apnews.com/amp/9794de32d39d4c6f89fbefaea3780769?__twitter_impression=true

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"She had to teach other kids in the cell to change her diaper," (Original Post) RandySF Jun 2018 OP
There are no toys or books. !!!!! elleng Jun 2018 #1
There are no words! shraby Jun 2018 #3
I have also read that they are not allowed to touch each other. leftieNanner Jun 2018 #5
Yes. I've read that, too. n/t TDale313 Jun 2018 #11
It's enough to make hardened adults cry. This is NOT America!!!! George II Jun 2018 #19
It is now. CozyMystery Jun 2018 #36
Many if not most chidren in these countries are malnournished. olegramps Jun 2018 #42
And they aren't allowed to play anyway! They also never get to sleep in the dark. The overhead tblue37 Jun 2018 #44
Kids are going to die. RockRaven Jun 2018 #2
+1, there's over 10,000 now ... how are they going to reunite with parents. There's no sane person uponit7771 Jun 2018 #6
My deepest fear is they will lose children. herding cats Jun 2018 #18
I'm sure they have thought of a way... forkol Jun 2018 #20
This little boy has the number 47 on his clothes - womanofthehills Jun 2018 #34
I'm thinking some labeled as 'missing' may have already . It's not like the identification and track lunasun Jun 2018 #14
You can't tell me that out of 2200 children none colorado_ufo Jun 2018 #17
Well how would the caretakers even know? FakeNoose Jun 2018 #27
I saw one report that said there have already been instances... kag Jun 2018 #30
Do we need to head down to Texas? OhNo-Really Jun 2018 #4
OMG I am so sorry you went through that gopiscrap Jun 2018 #10
OK now we are both are weeping. OhNo-Really Jun 2018 #13
OMG I went to the ICE FB Page. AllyCat Jun 2018 #28
I don't think it's possible for the Trump criminals Frances Jun 2018 #7
There's a special place in hell for the people who created this policy. CaptainTruth Jun 2018 #8
And his name begins with leftieNanner Jun 2018 #12
There is no hell. They must be made to pay now. NightWatcher Jun 2018 #15
Yes elleng Jun 2018 #21
I disagree. kag Jun 2018 #32
This separation of families is a bunch of Bull Scantilla leanforward Jun 2018 #9
This Stain Will Last Forever PaulX2 Jun 2018 #16
I couldn't even watch her. kag Jun 2018 #33
OMG DesertRat Jun 2018 #22
I would like to say what I think should happen to Jeff Sessions... Initech Jun 2018 #23
Sessions is a troll but let's not give Trump a pass...he ordered this madness... Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #38
In most States... Toorich Jun 2018 #24
Sadistic evil. dalton99a Jun 2018 #25
Of course that's what the SHITE trumpeople DO.. Look at Cha Jun 2018 #26
I sent this to the puke congresspeople in my state (Minnesota) progree Jun 2018 #29
"she was crying uncontrollably and pounding her little fists on mat. " awesomerwb1 Jun 2018 #31
I saw that too and began weeping at the thought. peequod Jun 2018 #35
Stop...write Republicans...leave the Dems out of this...Ok. Republicans did this. Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #39
I am weeping as I read this...and am so damned mad I could spit...I called all GOP candidates in my Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #37
We are moving to Ohio in July. I can't wait to register to vote there.... ekelly Jun 2018 #43
This has got to change. TODAY! Vinca Jun 2018 #40
this is how we breed hate in the world... Javaman Jun 2018 #41
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker Jul 2018 #45

shraby

(21,946 posts)
3. There are no words!
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 10:40 PM
Jun 2018

I'm so angry I'm beyond words. Investigations need to be opened up into this. People need to answer for it with sessions, miller and Kelly at the head of the list.

leftieNanner

(15,053 posts)
5. I have also read that they are not allowed to touch each other.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 10:44 PM
Jun 2018

Siblings who were hugging were ordered to stop.

And workers at the facilities were not permitted to hug distraught toddlers to console them.

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
42. Many if not most chidren in these countries are malnournished.
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 12:07 PM
Jun 2018

Malnourishment has lasting detrimental effects on these people. Numerous physical problems along with substandard mental development. While some physical affects can be treated, malnourishment during development is a permanently damaging to the brain development and cannot be corrected.

tblue37

(65,211 posts)
44. And they aren't allowed to play anyway! They also never get to sleep in the dark. The overhead
Wed Jun 20, 2018, 05:33 AM
Jun 2018

lights are always on.

RockRaven

(14,873 posts)
2. Kids are going to die.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 10:39 PM
Jun 2018

There's no way you can detain this many children without proper oversight and care without that happening. And it is damned difficult to care for that many kids, in any circumstances. What's the largest non-fictional boarding school or orphanage you have EVER heard of without some kind of atrocity? Seriously.

And for what? Some bullsh*it post-hoc rationalization from the Romans epistle? I think not. Their goal is segregation and genocide. Let's not be blind to that.

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
6. +1, there's over 10,000 now ... how are they going to reunite with parents. There's no sane person
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 10:44 PM
Jun 2018

... who thinks the screw it up crew can get that done

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
18. My deepest fear is they will lose children.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 11:47 PM
Jun 2018

I'm not trying to be sensational here, not in the least. This administration has been culling and/or driving out people who know what they're doing as a standard. Which means each department is being run, or staffed, by subpar people who don't pay attention to important details.

In a situation like this one, the results are potentially disastrous. Horrifically so. My greatest fear has been children will be lost and they'll not be able to trace them, ever.

forkol

(113 posts)
20. I'm sure they have thought of a way...
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 11:50 PM
Jun 2018

Probably sew gold stars on their clothing with their name on it, or hell, just tattoo an ID number on their arms....

I am just so, so, very sickened by this. Today I wrote each of my GOP senators asking them how America can morally justify putting children in concentration camps and for them to get off their ass and do the job they were elected to do.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
14. I'm thinking some labeled as 'missing' may have already . It's not like the identification and track
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 11:23 PM
Jun 2018

-ing is appearing to be the best. This is advantageous if things have a bad outcome

colorado_ufo

(5,729 posts)
17. You can't tell me that out of 2200 children none
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 11:45 PM
Jun 2018

are on medication or have any special dietary needs.

FakeNoose

(32,535 posts)
27. Well how would the caretakers even know?
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 12:45 AM
Jun 2018

The parents have no opportunity to tell the caretakers anything, like special diet, medications, or anything else. I read last week that the plan was to "farm" the littlest ones out with relatives (if there are any) or else foster families. This is no plan at all, and who's checking on the welfare of the kids? It's terrifying.

kag

(4,078 posts)
30. I saw one report that said there have already been instances...
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 01:08 AM
Jun 2018

of kids being given medications that they are allergic to. I didn't hear what the outcome was, but it couldn't have been good.

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
4. Do we need to head down to Texas?
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 10:42 PM
Jun 2018

What a set up for emotional pain

As an twice orphaned child, I can attest to the pain and suffering. Many years of counseling.

We are torturing children

OhNo-Really

(3,985 posts)
13. OK now we are both are weeping.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 11:05 PM
Jun 2018

Hugs to you. 🎆💝🎆
We will never know how most feel, but we know how those kids feel. I was alone at age 3 and again at age 5. Too long a story, but My PTSD is severe from these stories about these innocent immigration families being torn apart.

If only the ICE ppl or whoever would refuse to do this......

AllyCat

(16,132 posts)
28. OMG I went to the ICE FB Page.
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 12:51 AM
Jun 2018

Someone with an ICE logo making it look like one of them called me names for questioning what they are doing. They want this.

leftieNanner

(15,053 posts)
12. And his name begins with
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 11:01 PM
Jun 2018

Stephen and it ends with Miller.

And he is effing PROUD of it.

OMG. I fear to say the words "Can this get any worse?", because it always does.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
15. There is no hell. They must be made to pay now.
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 11:29 PM
Jun 2018

S Miller belongs in a prison doing hard time for war crimes.

leanforward

(1,076 posts)
9. This separation of families is a bunch of Bull Scantilla
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 10:52 PM
Jun 2018

I was going through some photos of RVN recently. Several of the pictures showed troops in full jungle dress, muddy, weapon in hand and a vietnamese toteler in the other arm carrying the child out of harms way.

Now, we are doing this separation of families trying to do better. Or trying to avoid violence in their home country.

pRezident dRumpf, russian handlers, and any NRA GOP recipient of NRA need/must stumble down the stairs.

These creatures that refuse to take a moral stand, need to go.

 

PaulX2

(2,032 posts)
16. This Stain Will Last Forever
Sun Jun 17, 2018, 11:32 PM
Jun 2018

The Republican scum don't know what to do. Kellyanne couldn't even gish gallop her way clear this morning.

kag

(4,078 posts)
33. I couldn't even watch her.
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 01:17 AM
Jun 2018

I'm so sick of watching her and hoping that this time she might say something that is at least factual, but I'm always disappointed. So as soon as I saw that she was the guest I turned off the TV.

It's hard enough to watch the truthful reporting about this issue. I'm afraid if I tried to watch someone from the dumbfuck brigade lie about it I would drop kick the TV (and given that I'm in a hotel room tonight, that could get expensive ).

Initech

(100,023 posts)
23. I would like to say what I think should happen to Jeff Sessions...
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 12:08 AM
Jun 2018

But in the interest of good taste I won't.

Demsrule86

(68,453 posts)
38. Sessions is a troll but let's not give Trump a pass...he ordered this madness...
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 07:03 AM
Jun 2018

Sessions couldn't do it without Trump's approval.

Toorich

(391 posts)
24. In most States...
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 12:13 AM
Jun 2018

... it is actually a crime to fail to report child abuse. And it is actionable if the authorities fail to investigate.

Cha

(296,697 posts)
26. Of course that's what the SHITE trumpeople DO.. Look at
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 12:40 AM
Jun 2018

how they Ignored Puerto Rico and how they don't give a shit if KIDS DIE in Classrooms.. and all the Agencies that do help people have had their funding Slashed.

progree

(10,884 posts)
29. I sent this to the puke congresspeople in my state (Minnesota)
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 01:01 AM
Jun 2018

First you genocidal maniacs voted to take away healthcare for millions of Americans -- that is genocide.

Now you people are supporting a compulsive liar and sociopath who thinks separating children from their parents is just fine and dandy:

/-----------------------------
An advocate who spent several hours in the immigrant children detention facility Friday said she was deeply troubled by what she found.

Michelle Brane, director of migrant rights at the Women's Refugee Commission, met with a 16-year-old girl who had been taking care of a young girl for three days. The teen and others in their cage thought the girl was 2 years old.

"She had to teach other kids in the cell to change her diaper," Brane said.

... It turned out that the girl was actually 4 years old.

"She was so traumatized that she wasn't talking," Brane said. "She was just curled up in a little ball."

Brane said she also saw officials at the facility scold a group of 5-year-olds for playing around in their cage, telling them to settle down. There are no toys or books.
---------------------------------

Shame on you pukes. Shame shame on you. You people are the lowest form of life.

awesomerwb1

(4,264 posts)
31. "she was crying uncontrollably and pounding her little fists on mat. "
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 01:10 AM
Jun 2018

FFS evil, heartless monsters.

"she was crying uncontrollably and pounding her little fists on mat".

peequod

(189 posts)
35. I saw that too and began weeping at the thought.
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 01:31 AM
Jun 2018

I am going to write every asshat in the Republican leadership in Congress (along with some recalcitrant Dem Senators) and demand that they stop this immediately.

Demsrule86

(68,453 posts)
37. I am weeping as I read this...and am so damned mad I could spit...I called all GOP candidates in my
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 06:58 AM
Jun 2018

area and despite having to move for hubs job, finding out we can't have four dogs in our new house (who knew such policies existed) ,which means we have to sell our new house and buy another one,needing to buy a cheap house for my kids so they can continue their education (dorms are to expensive for us and we have to move for hubs job) and take two of our dogs until we sell our house, I will work my ass off here in Ohio to get rid of every fucking GOP in the state...give money and time...Cordray seems to be doing pretty well...I will call until my fingers bleed...I will not go quietly into the madness of genocide as the Germans did. We must get these murderous bastards out.

ekelly

(421 posts)
43. We are moving to Ohio in July. I can't wait to register to vote there....
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 01:03 PM
Jun 2018

My hubby also has a new job there (in Lima). We will be living nearby in Ada, and I'm looking forward to doing our part to crush the GOP in Ohio. I'm starting to research the Ohio political landscape, reps, districts, etc... gathering lists of email addresses and phone numbers. I want to be ready!

Javaman

(62,493 posts)
41. this is how we breed hate in the world...
Mon Jun 18, 2018, 09:53 AM
Jun 2018

this will come back to bite us in the ass.

and you know what? we completely deserve it.

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