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nocoincidences

(2,215 posts)
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 12:16 PM Jun 2018

How will we know if a child dies in custody?

WILL we know?

This is what is horrifying to think about.

If anything happens to a child they will bury it deep, and with the lack of accurate record keeping that has been suggested, who will figure it out.

It makes me sick to think about it.

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RKP5637

(67,084 posts)
1. That's what I've been wondering too. It's all a damn secret as to what is going on and seemingly no
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 12:19 PM
Jun 2018

accountability, just how a fascist country operates. Who's next.

Leghorn21

(13,522 posts)
2. We'll never know. I dreamed of this all night and into the morning. I've no doubt it has
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 12:20 PM
Jun 2018

already happened.

I, too, am feeling sick and mentally deranged today, but this fucking atrocity

WILL

NOT

STAND

Runningdawg

(4,509 posts)
4. Odds are - they already have
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 12:22 PM
Jun 2018

It doesn't take a baby long to die of dehydration. And 12 year olds should not be in charge of their care.

Kittycow

(2,396 posts)
7. Child deaths will be a massive cover-up
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 12:27 PM
Jun 2018

that will be discovered decades from now, if ever.

This has really been on my mind because of the tents in Texas. It doesn't take much for a kid to get dehydrated. Kids get hospitalized for this, for God's sake.

Even if there's plenty of water available (will it be rationed like food?), who's going to make sure that the kids drink it?

Will the staff even be trained on the warning signs?

ETA:. totally agree with Runningdawg above.

ChicagoRonin

(630 posts)
8. The crimes will be uncountable
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 12:28 PM
Jun 2018

Death by negligence
Murder
Sexual abuse
Forced labor
Trafficking
Adoptions for profit

You name it, it's probably happening.

haele

(12,635 posts)
12. We won't. Children have died in "juvenile rehabilitation camps" for over a century and no one
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 12:58 PM
Jun 2018

cared. If there's no "respectable" relatives to make a stink, no one cares.

The tired old history fan in me is pretty sure that since April, there have already been deaths among the separated children, especially among the younger ones - the infants and toddlers - who had already gone through a long and stressful journey and were in bad shape, physically or mentally, to begin with.
Poor nutrition, sanitation, and the exposure to foreign diseases, especially since they've been travelling for months across different environments - and in the mid-spring when everything is "blooming" (specifically bacteria and fungi) can cause catastrophic physical failure.
Babies and toddlers without their parents or a trusted caretaker in such a situation can easily just shut down. And that is usually fatal.

Haele

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
13. Here is how it is done.
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 01:02 PM
Jun 2018

Citizen Monitors who watch for tell tale signs. It is called watching for the County Medical Examiner or Mortuary vehicles entering or leaving these Prison Farms.

Johnny2X2X

(18,968 posts)
15. They will cover it up
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 01:28 PM
Jun 2018

They already are.

They are going to put children as young a 1 into tents in the desert surrounded by barbed wire fences, temps will bu in the triple digits, children are going to get sick and die.

Trump called them vermin, he doesn't care if they all die.

ecstatic

(32,641 posts)
16. Easy: We won't. Unless someone working there somehow has a conscience and leaks it
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 01:31 PM
Jun 2018

But the two don't go together: How could someone with a conscience work there?

LeftInTX

(25,106 posts)
17. This was my very first concern
Tue Jun 19, 2018, 01:38 PM
Jun 2018

Separating families is emotionally traumatic and if they can be quickly reunited with their parents this issue would not be so alarming. (For instance if the kids were staying a few miles away and case workers were in constant touch with both the parents and the kids on a daily basis)

But this is not the case.

There is no accountability.

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