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1. looks like a new york tag, hdf4841

[HAB911]

2. +++++++++++

[womanofthehills]

3. Moving kids around in the middle of the night -

Trying to keep everything secret. How sick is that.

[Achilleaze]

4. You mean the republicans are not just caging children?

But that republicans are also enabling child trafficking? Please tell me I am not understanding the republican strategy correctly, and that things are not that grotesquely sinfully wrong and ugly?

[lagomorph777]

5. HDF-4841 (New York)

Trump is now a child trafficker.

[jberryhill]

6. I gather it is not likely a commercially licensed vehicle?

[lagomorph777]

7. Looks like a standard passenger plate to me.

However, at the bottom, between the two mounting screws, there is the hint of text (just a blurry line), which according to sample images online, could just as easily read "EMPIRE STATE" or "COMMERCIAL"

[lagomorph777]

8. Is that a frame from a video? Sometimes watching the video you can glean a little bit more.

[jberryhill]

11. The video is in the OP

[lagomorph777]

12. Ok - won't play on my machine.

[jmowreader]

13. It wouldn't need to be

In most states, a commercial plate is only for vehicles 26,001 pounds and higher. New York licenses all trucks with commercial plates: my Dodge pickup had them when I was at Fort Drum. Cars aren’t licensed commercial (there is a taxi plate but that’s not labeled “commercial”) regardless of what you do with them.

[jberryhill]

14. A driver transporting passengers for hire would need a proper D/L, yes?

[jmowreader]

15. This is the federal CDL requirement

You need a CDL if you are driving a vehicle that is rated to carry:

26,001 pounds gross weight (including the vehicle) in a single vehicle
26,001 pounds gross and at least 10,000 gross in a trailer
15 passengers plus the driver
air brakes
a placardable quantity of hazardous materials

As to the last one: the US Coast Guard (the lead agency on hazmat) has a table listing every known hazardous material and how much you need to have before you must mark the truck. Some of them are so bad, one pound is enough to require marking. Anyway, if you’re hauling enough hazmat you are a commercial vehicle...all these Chevy S-10s with bug spray pumps in the bed are commercial vehicles thanks to the 250 gallons of insecticide. Without that apparatus, they’re the same as cars.

The government requires CDL for the hazmat and air brakes because both require endorsements, and there are no endorsements (except M for motorcycle) on a Class D license.

[jberryhill]

16. I'm pretty sure that if you are driving passengers for hire, there are state requirements

[jmowreader]

17. New York State has a "Class E" license

The requirements and tests are the same. The only difference appears to be that a Class E license is almost twice as expensive as a Class D license...Class D is $64.50, Class E is $112.50.

If you live in the New York metro area there's also a Metropolitan Commuter Transportation District fee. That adds $16 to the price of your driver's license.

At the other end of the scale is Idaho. They don't add any extra requirements - a Class D license is fine for driving taxis.

[panader0]

9. WOW! Recommended.

[tblue37]

10. HDF-4841. nt

[suffragette]

18. CEO Hayes tries to deflect by calling reporters the bad guys and saying they are ones causing

suffering. That is “1984” level double-speak.

From the Gothamist link in OP:

Asked about the footage on Wednesday morning, Hayes told Gothamist, "I think children are suffering more because reporters are chasing them with cameras, which look a lot like gangs with guns in El Salvador. The reality is my agency is going to do right by these children." He noted that the home—which was founded as an orphanage in 1852—has a "tremendous track record" of placing children with families. There are "different levels of sponsorships," he added, in the event that the children have no family members in the region.

[jberryhill]

21. They have an interesting Board

A car salesman and a woman listed as an "entrepreneur" who is in the business of child model management.

[suffragette]

22. Child models? Hmmm. Also, they have had difficulty filling at least one of their centers. Similar

to GEO Group, Trump’s policies are funneling inmates and money their way.

http://cnycentral.com/news/local/cayuga-centers-ending-residential-treatment-center-as-many-as-120-to-be-laid-off


AUBURN, N.Y. — Cayuga Centers announced Thursday it's closing its Residential Treatment Center, laying off as many as 120 employees in the process.

The Auburn-based institution said in a release "dramatic changes in the nature of the youths it has been treating" prompted the decision by the Board of Trustees on Wednesday.


AUBURN, N.Y. — Cayuga Centers announced Thursday it's closing its Residential Treatment Center, laying off as many as 120 employees in the process.
The Auburn-based institution said in a release "dramatic changes in the nature of the youths it has been treating" prompted the decision by the Board of Trustees on Wednesday.
When the last resident is discharged, as many as 120 employees will have been laid off, president and CEO Edward Hayes said in a release. Hayes said despite efforts to intensify the residential treatment program, the residential location resulted in difficulty attracting youths appropriate for the location.
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Hayes added that youth services authorities have shifted from placing troubled children in group homes to instead placing them with "suitable, trained, loving families" which he said is actually "far more effective for their treatment."

[SonofDonald]

27. "We were only following orders"

Oh and by the way.....

Getting Paid For It......

[LuckyCharms]

19. "Empire State" at the bottom, since this is most likely not a commercial vehicle.

Also, appears to be two words at the bottom.

[ProudLib72]

20. AMBER ALERT!!!!!!!

Kidnapping is kidnapping is kidnapping...

[csziggy]

23. The other vehicle which picked up two girls

Before the one whose license plate you showed has a license plate T46255. That is the dark car with the person wearing a bun on top of their head.

The car you showed is a silver car- the driver is not shown.

[brooklynite]

24. This is not a taxi or TLC registered vehicle...HOWEVER

Doxing a private car is NOT something we should be engaged in. The New York authorities have seen the same video, and can take legal action if warranted. Nobody who’s NOT AUTHORIZED TO INVESTIGATE should be doing anything.

[jberryhill]

25. It's a photograph on a public street

No individual is identified, nor can be.

You are okay with the faces of the children, but not an inanimate object on a public street clearly visible in a widely distributed video?

I was curious what sort of plate it is.

[brooklynite]

29. What purpose would be served by knowing anything about the license plate?

[triron]

26. Suggest you send this to [e-mail] for starters

[Tatiana]

28. It looks like Gov. Cuomo's office is investigating the operations in NY.

He was on w/ Andrea Mitchell (Mrs. Greenspan) and seemed to have a good command of what was being attempted in his state. He said they had confirmed over 100 federally supported centers in NY and they were investigating to determine the movement of children.

[triron]

30. knr