As I have said before, if you voted for trump:

[gopiscrap]

then go fuck yourself

if you didn't vote: repent and vote Democratic in 2018

[gopiscrap]

2. if you didn't vote for Clinton knowing how close

this election would be and knowing what the damage of a trump presidency clould be, then you're part of the problem!!!!!

[we can do it]

3. Then you're an idiot.

[gopiscrap]

6. thank you I agree

[we can do it]

14. You and idiots like you are a big reason the world is being terrorized by trump.

Fuck your fake purity.

[LanternWaste]

26. Thank you, indeed.

Your pretense of oppression is noted and will be given all the credibility it in fact, warrants...

And if you honestly believe (I doubt it, though) that a snarky comment directed at someone will "chase them away..." then I can only presume you're projecting your own petulant and irrelevant reasons to vote or not onto those around you.

Thank you, indeed.

[Fix The Stupid]

5. I'll try a different approach than the mob...

Why? What did your candidate say/do to convince you to vote for them? Or against the others?

Genuinely curious.

Maybe we'll try discussion instead of witch hunts here for a change..we might learn something?

Thanks

[Fix The Stupid]

12. I hear ya...

Can't talk about that stuff here...might learn something.

I was curious though...no offense.

I would like to see this conversation take place, but totally understand this is NOT the place to do it...

And to the alert stalkers..."Democrats are the best and can do no wrong!!" - I really mean that...

[NCTraveler]

43. You are the only one to have said this.

"Democrats are the best and can do no wrong!"

I have never met someone who agrees with that statement.

Who are the "alert stalkers"?

[lunamagica]

21. if you didn't vote for Hillary Clinton you don't belong on this board

[lunamagica]

24. It's in the TOS

[PunkinPi]

33. From your quote of the TOS

"we do expect members to be generally progressive and to support Democrats at election time". Hillary was the democratic nominee in 2016, you have admitted you didn't vote for her, therefore you threw your vote to Trump.

[Cha]

45. You were right, Luna!

name removed was a busy little propagandist.

[lunamagica]

46. A busy little troll, Cha!

[CrispyQ]

8. Sometimes there are only two choices.

The rational adults in the country saw that 2016 was one of those times.

Repent & vote Democratic in 2018.

[NY_20th]

10. Do you regret that decision?

[NY_20th]

16. Wow.

I have nothing more to say to you.

[lunamagica]

28. Such arrogance can only come from those who think having trump for president will not affect them

they have the luxury to be Oh, so pure, while the most vulnerable pay for their arrogance.

[Whiskeytide]

32. I understand where you are ...

... even if I don’t agree with you. The Trump campaign, the Republican Party and foreign interests spent a lot of time and resources poisoning our information networks in 2016. It’s really no surprise that a lot of people felt the way you did/do.

But you might consider that you’re now posting on a board with many democrats who follow politics very closely year round. A lot of us were mystified by the rise of Trump, as well as the national hatred - wholly undeserved - for HRC. It defied logic for us because we saw Trump clearly, and knew HRC was not the person portrayed in the media and on social networks. Those are given parameters now that we know what transpired - but we knew it here in real time.

But even so, still many here that were taken in by the scam, and many long time members are gone. It’s an understatement to say that there are some bruised, raw emotions still present. Please understand that many have a very low tolerance for others who didn’t see things clearly.

But here’s the thing - regardless of what you believed in 2016. Voting is in large part much like game theory. You have a vote to play. You might wish you had more in your arsenal - or wish for better alternatives or better ways to play it. But in the end, you should play it in the way that gives you the greatest chance of winning - getting the highest score you can. That may well mean voting against a candidate more than voting for one. But you should still do that. Otherwise you are truly throwing in the towel in the game and it is the very definition of wasted effort.

Many now regret their vote (whether for Trump or for someone else). That’s logical considering what has happened since the election. You don’t. That’s fine. But with that position comes the baggage of having helped allowed Trump to be. That’s another given. Even if your state went for HRC easily, the analysis is unchanged. The approach you took - taken by many others where it mattered - cost us. Every policy implemented, every right wing judge appointed, every Trumpism that occurs, can be traced back to an electorate that either voted unwisely, or failed to vote wisely.

I don’t mean to be preachy. But you are on DU. It’s a great site, for the most part. But many here call it like they see it - some more harshly than others. It’s not for people with thin skin.

[YessirAtsaFact]

11. What if I don't pay much attention to politics and

Voted for him, feel horrible now that I know what he’s like? And I’m voting Democratic I the mid term?

There are a lot of low information voters out there. We’re better off talking to them than writing them off.

I get what you’re saying about people who still support him, but a lot of people who voted for him wouldn’t do it again.

For the record, I’ve never voted for a Repugnant Goon for anything.

[gopiscrap]

19. I say fuck anyone who voted for trump

may they all die a painful and horrible lingering death...they are the ass pimple on the hemmorhoid of humanity...I have no use for such scum and they are unteachable

[we can do it]

29. This is possibly the dumbest comment I have ever read.

[thucythucy]

31. I'm sorry, but how "low information" do you have to be

to vote for someone who:

insults the parents of a dead Iraqi war veteran

brags about sexually assaulting women

brags about walking into a dressing room for teenaged girls because "I own the pageant"

makes racist remarks about Mexicans and blacks

has declared bankruptcy multiple times, stiffing workers and small business owners

mocks people with disabilities

runs a scam called "Trump University" that stiffs people out of millions of dollars

encouraged people at his rallies to physically assault people who didn't support him

refuses to release his tax returns

and on and on and on...?

All of this received widespread coverage. All of this was on display for a year or more before the election.

I'm glad that some of these people may finally be seeing the light. In the meantime, the damage done to our society is deep, and will endure for decades. Millions of people here and around the world will suffer in ways they wouldn't have under a Clinton presidency. Climate change will continue unchecked, even accelerating as environmental controls are gutted and poorer areas of the country and world used as toxic waste sites. Hundreds of thousands of people in Puerto Rico continue to suffer from the after effects of a botched and entirely inadequate federal response. Our allies are disheartened, our enemies delighted. And we're less than two years into this monstrosity of a government.

It's tough for me not to believe that many of the people who voted for Trump did so out of fear and loathing of people not like them: people of color, Latinos, LGBTs, people with disabilities. city dwellers, non-gun enthusiasts, etc. They wanted to see "liberal tears" and now see that that means the tears of children as well.

[YessirAtsaFact]

34. What if I voted for him because my roommate did

And I didn’t have a clue?

There are a lot of people like this.

Believe me, I despise OrangeTurd and think he really is an evil, despicable human being.

I just don’t think everyone who voted for him is.

[thucythucy]

36. So what are we supposed to do about that?

"I voted for him because my roommate did"?

Honestly?

[YessirAtsaFact]

37. Most people don't pay nearly as much attention as they should

And yes, I am sure there were thousands of votes based on what the voter heard from a friend or loved one.

There are a lot of people too lazy to think for themselves. They don’t all wear Klan robes.

[thucythucy]

38. Again, what are we supposed to do about people "too lazy to think for themselves?"

They might not wear Klan robes, but they empower people who do.

Not every German was a Nazi. Did that make what Germany and Germans did 1933 to 1945 any less reprehensible?

At least Germans had the excuse that there were consequences for not supporting the regime after 1933. You're saying we should excuse Trump voters who brought this mess down on us because some of them are just too "lazy" to care?

Do these voters have children? Do they not care about their children's future?

[YessirAtsaFact]

39. What do we do?

I donate money monthly to the DNC.

I talk to my 19 y/o stepson about politics.

I gave money to Connor Lamb b/c that looked like a situation where a small donation might make a difference.

This is my last post on this thread. Peace out.✌️

[thucythucy]

40. Well, that doesn't say anything about how to deal

with voters "too lazy to think for themselves."

I also talk to people, donate, work in campaigns when my health permits it.

Peace out to you as well.

[CrispyQ]

42. To answer the question in your title, I don't know if we can do anything.

I think they are going to have to personally feel the pain of their bad decisions before they change. Too many have been brainwashed by hate radio/Fox news that democrats/liberals/the left want to take all their hard earned money & give it to the minorities, set up abortion clinics for the uppity women, & make bakers bake wedding cakes for gays. I've had two of my rw relatives read that Joe Conservative essay & I asked them, "What policies discussed here do you disagree with?" and they couldn't answer, but they know that they hate "libtards."

[treestar]

44. It is hard for us to imagine the person who would not know all of that

A person who pays no attention to the news whatsoever. Then goes out to dutifully vote, and votes the way that some friend they think is informed told them to?

[CrispyQ]

41. If you want a quality government that really represents you, don't be a low-info voter.

Step up to the plate & take some responsibility for your vote. Don't just swallow what your favorite news station tells you about your party/candidate. Do some real research & find out for yourself. One hour online would have revealed that Trump doesn't hire Americans, cheats his contractors out of their wages, sues anyone who says something uncomplimentary about him, refused to release his tax returns like every other modern candidate has, is a failed businessman, cannot prove that he is a billionaire, is a sexual predator. And that's just the surface. One hour & anyone could have found that out. If voters don't care enough to inform themselves, then we get the government we deserve & it appears that we are going to get what the lowest common denominator wants. Thanks for that, low-info voters.

Repent & vote Democratic in 2018. And tell your friends & family to, too.