Something needs saying: Thank you, *WHITES*. Demonstrators, voters, young.

[UTUSN]

Thank you, the protesters at the Mexican menu restaurant where NIELSEN was last night, several/most? of whom were White.

I'm bugged in general about all the different constituent groups who *DON'T VOTE* or who VOTE AGAINST THEIR SELF-INTEREST, including low-income-Whites.

LBJ and African Americans zeroed in to the key of VOTING and some other constituencies DON'T VOTE.

In my old age of disappointment of Dem losing, I've often disdained the Young and the White for their 3rd way type of waywardness. But for now I'm thanking them for taking up the slack.

Am not saying things right, but somebody out there knows what I'm saying.

[Xipe Totec]

1. I do know what you're saying

Thank you to all our brethren who see beyond the color of the skin and see a kinsman.

[UTUSN]

2. Wow, thanks for getting me here.

[lunasun]

3. Yes Thank You to Whites standing in solidarity against this evil. Those speaking out against Nazis

Those protesting taking time out to expose truth

[UTUSN]

5. And risking themselves

[lunasun]

9. Yes even death like Heather Heyer. She died a patriot . We are up against such evil now

I'm glad that girl died’ during Virginia protest, says NC KKK leader

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/local/article167303682.html#storylink=cpy

[pnwmom]

17. Yes. She died a hero. But most have probably already forgotten her name. n/t

[lunasun]

20. No we have to remember !

[Lil Missy]

4. Thank you, but/and this is not a racial issue. No. It's a human rights issue.

[pnwmom]

6. It is, though. DT is scapegoating people of color -- first the Muslims, now immigrants

from our southern border.

And it isn't enough just for other people of color to speak up. White people need to scream bloody murder, too.

[ProudLib72]

7. +1

Hit the nail on the head!

[lunasun]

11. You get it pnwmom! Thanks !

[pnwmom]

22. De nada, lunasun! nt

[lunatica]

21. Exactly and very well said

Human beings is what it’s about. And no matter of what age or nationality.

[Hekate]

23. +1000

[pnwmom]

8. And thank YOU for not putting all whites into one deplorable basket.

I am ashamed that I belong to one of the groups that put DT into office.

UPDATE: I'm not criticizing HRC. Many DT supporters ARE deplorable. But not, hopefully, all white people.

[UTUSN]

10. Thank YOU for knowing I don't criticize DUers, am criticizing out there

[pnwmom]

18. I know you well enough to know that, UTUSN.

[NY_20th]

12. Well gosh, let's all have a cookie

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And please, hold a parade for us for doing the right thing.

Us white people are so discriminated against. It's about time someone showed us some love.

[UTUSN]

13. I'll have a V8, Felicia

[NY_20th]

14. I think you should have a V8

and a cookie, Archie.

[UTUSN]

15. Big difference between you and me, never to be bridged.

[NY_20th]

16. Civil Rights and equality is a bridge too far?

[UTUSN]

19. And you fit the pattern of not grokking while never stopping. S'long!1

[NY_20th]

24. I'm seriously curious as to why you feel the need

for some sort of celebration for doing what is right and what is just.

Why does the topic have to become how great some white people are as opposed to how racism still is prevalent in our society.

Are some white people great advocates against racism? Yes.

Are all? No!

Just because one white person is standing up, or some white people are standing up, does it mean that all white people are standing up against racism?

No!

Are there still many white people who need to wake up to this travesty? Yes.

Does it mean that none have? No.

This isn't rocket science.

[pnwmom]

25. Why are you distorting what UTUSN said? We're all allies here, aren't we? n/t

[NY_20th]

26. I would hope so.

I'm not distorting anything.

I'm disagreeing with the position that White People need some sort of acknowledgement for doing what it right and just.

[NY_20th]

28. Here's the thing,

why is there this urgent need for White People to have accolades thrown at them for not being racist, while racism still exists?

I'm white, and it makes no sense to me.

[pnwmom]

30. UTUSN wasn't throwing accolades. UTUSN was pointing to the fact that we need ALL of us

in this together, so UTUSN been glad to see that young people and white people aren't being silent -- as we too often have been.

[Hekate]

34. Something dank and mildewed is in the air

[NY_20th]

37. Alright, maybe I've misread and jumped to conclusions.

Yes, we need all of us.

My apologies to UTUSN, if that's the case.

[pnwmom]

38. We're all under stress and we're all struggling to get through the worst Presidency ever.

It's good when we can stick together.

[Hekate]

27. I think I do. I feel old and tired and didn't think I'd still be protesting this shit...

Yet here we are, and it feels like the worst. Trump is specifically targeting anyone brown, whether they are Middle Eastern or Central American. The venomous words that spew from his lips are explicit, and it feels like I'm watching old 1930s footage of Hitler targeting the Jews and making them the scapegoat for everything that ever went wrong, real or imagined.

As for we "white people" engaging and protesting, why in the name of humanity would we not?

This from Hillel the Elder says it all:

"If I am not for myself, who will be for me? But if I am only for myself, what am I? And if not now, when?”

[NY_20th]

29. "why in the name of humanity would we not?

Exactly.

And we should not need a pat on the back or a high five to do so, either.

[Hekate]

31. Nonetheless, humane acknowledgment from time to time is the glue that holds groups together

You are talking as though you cannot do that. It seems rather Calvinist and rigid in orientation.

Around here we squabble a lot, but over the past almost two decades relationships have formed, some of them deep -- Rather like the hole you are digging for yourself.

My advice: Stop digging and lighten up.

[NY_20th]

32. Civil Rights are important to me.

Is protecting Civil Rights considered digging a hole for myself here?

I should lighten up on Civil Rights?

That's the advice you are giving me?

Is there no one here that I can form a relationship with that agrees with me?

Does everyone here agree with your take?

[Hekate]

33. 1) Anyone at any time can disagree with me. 2) Is that a serious question about civil rights?

You think this conversation is about civil rights?

Go in with your bad self. I have nothing more to say to you.

[NY_20th]

35. How is this conversation not about Civil Rights?

[pnwmom]

36. Well said, Hekate. n/t

[OhioBlue]

39. I get what you are saying.

I think it is appropriate post, especially on the anniversary of the loss of Chaney, Goodman and Schwerner

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/civil-rights-workers-disappear

In Neshoba County in central Mississippi, three civil rights field workers disappear after investigating the burning of an African American church by the Ku Klux Klan. Michael Schwerner and Andrew Goodman, both white New Yorkers, had traveled to heavily segregated Mississippi in 1964 to help organize civil rights efforts on behalf of the Congress of Racial Equality (CORE). The third man, James Chaney, was a local African American man who had joined CORE in 1963. The disappearance of the three young men garnered national attention and led to a massive FBI investigation that was code-named MIBURN, for “Mississippi Burning.”

[JI7]

40. agree, i say the most white people can and should do it speak out against other White People who are

bigots. the same goes for others such as heterosexuals when it comes to supporting lgbt rights.

i think it's more important for white people to speak against the white bigots than in trying to reach out to minorities . of course both are important but i do think one matters more when it comes to fighting bigotry.