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Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:22 AM

Trump Travel Ban Upheld by SCOTUS 5-4

Thanks Jill! Thanks Susan!

http://www.scotusblog.com/2018/06/live-blog-of-opinions-with-scotus-map-and-first-mondays/

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Reply Trump Travel Ban Upheld by SCOTUS 5-4 (Original post)
lapucelle Jun 2018 OP
Funtatlaguy Jun 2018 #1
NewJeffCT Jun 2018 #3
Cha Jun 2018 #5
Funtatlaguy Jun 2018 #8
Cha Jun 2018 #12
NewJeffCT Jun 2018 #13
Funtatlaguy Jun 2018 #14
NewJeffCT Jun 2018 #16
NurseJackie Jun 2018 #7
Funtatlaguy Jun 2018 #11
NurseJackie Jun 2018 #17
lunasun Jun 2018 #22
GulfCoast66 Jun 2018 #9
Cha Jun 2018 #2
NY_20th Jun 2018 #4
Freethinker65 Jun 2018 #6
nini Jun 2018 #28
NY_20th Jun 2018 #34
Takket Jun 2018 #10
BannonsLiver Jun 2018 #15
OliverQ Jun 2018 #18
BannonsLiver Jun 2018 #19
OliverQ Jun 2018 #20
BannonsLiver Jun 2018 #24
mythology Jun 2018 #25
bearsfootball516 Jun 2018 #27
exboyfil Jun 2018 #29
UTUSN Jun 2018 #21
ismnotwasm Jun 2018 #23
DetroitLegalBeagle Jun 2018 #33
Fullduplexxx Jun 2018 #26
lapucelle Jun 2018 #32
Fullduplexxx Jun 2018 #36
lapucelle Jun 2018 #37
Blaukraut Jun 2018 #30
vi5 Jun 2018 #35
still_one Jun 2018 #31

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:28 AM

3. He could not make a recess appointment

because the Senate was technically never in recess the last few years of Obama's presidency. SCOTUS said that Obama could make recess appointments when the Senate was officially in recess, but that the Senate decided when it was in recess, and McConnell never had an official recess.

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #3)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:31 AM

5. Thanks for explaining that, NewJeff..

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #3)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:35 AM

8. I didn't know that. It has always been a meme

that Obama just refused to use it.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #8)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:37 AM

12. I never even heard that before .. I wonder where that

"meme" originated from ?

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #8)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:39 AM

13. Obama had made a bunch of recess appointments

and Republicans challenged his ability to do that. SCOTUS ruled that he could make recess appointments whenever the Senate was in recess, but that the Senate itself would decide when it was in recess. So, McTurtle decided to never let the Senate go into recess and ran proforma sessions so they would never meet the threshold of being in recess.

I believe Obama lost a few recess appointments with the SCOTUS decision as well.

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #13)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:40 AM

14. Thank you. Never knew this.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #14)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:42 AM

16. If the Senate had gone into recess

I think Obama would have moved on it very quickly and appointed Garland. After all, Eisenhower made William Brennan a recess appointment to the Supreme Court only weeks before the 1956 election, and Brennan became a liberal icon on the court.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:34 AM

7. So, you can never forgive him for something he could not have done anyway?

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #7)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:37 AM

11. Chillax. And read my response.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #11)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:44 AM

17. Memes aren't reliable ways to learn about our political system and processes...

Chillax. And read my response.
Memes aren't reliable ways to learn about our political system and processes. So now you know.


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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #11)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:48 AM

22. Why not delete your orginal post?.... It's false outrage imo

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:35 AM

9. You do not forgive him for not doing the impossible?

This is a new level of Democratic bashing on DU.

Normally it is reserved for something they can actually do.

As a reminder, recess appointments are done only during recesses. The Senate was never in recess.

Thus Obama could not do a recess appointment.

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Response to lapucelle (Original post)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:27 AM

2. Assholes!

Shite.

Mahalo, lapucelle

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Response to lapucelle (Original post)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:30 AM

4. We are losing our Democracy.

 

Horrible. I'm numb.

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Response to NY_20th (Reply #4)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:31 AM

6. The death of democracy

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Response to NY_20th (Reply #4)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:58 AM

28. Honestly.. I think we've lost it

And too many aren't paying enough attention to see it.

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Response to nini (Reply #28)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:34 AM

34. It really does feel that way.

 

We have one more shot. The upcoming elections are of the utmost importance.

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Response to lapucelle (Original post)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:36 AM

10. Get ready for a massive end zone dance from drumpf

He is going to be gloating until the cows come home.

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Response to lapucelle (Original post)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:41 AM

15. The majority of the SCOTUS are terrified of Trump.

Terrified of what might happen to them if they defy him. Couldn’t be more obvious.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #15)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:44 AM

18. Why would they care? He can't do anything to them.

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Response to OliverQ (Reply #18)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:46 AM

19. LOL

Yeah right.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #19)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:46 AM

20. You're not making any sense.

Trump has no power over the Supreme Court.

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Response to OliverQ (Reply #20)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:52 AM

24. Yeah he's not vindictive or anything

Doesn’t have a cult of deplorables who do his bidding, doesn’t have a cable news network that does his bidding, and doesn’t have a network of radio stations that do his bidding.


He’s fully able to make anyone who defies him the target of all of that, including Supreme Court justices. Is it physical violence? Not yet. But it doesn’t have to be to violent intimidate.

Wake up, and try and keep up.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #24)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:56 AM

25. So because something that hasn't happened might happen

 

Nonsense.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #15)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:57 AM

27. There's nothing he can do to them. He doesn't have power over them.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #15)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:59 AM

29. I think the five would have ruled the same way

even if Pence was the President. Their only concern (and the degree of it varies by Justice) is that the Court maintains or even strengthens its political position. That requires GOP control of the Senate and the Presidency.

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Response to lapucelle (Original post)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:46 AM

21. Thanks, Anthony KENNEDY, the only more damage is for you to RETIRE now

and give TWITLER another seat on the Supreme Court. Him, the supposed "Swing Vote," who swings the wrong way more often than not. . As if TWITLER needs any encouragement to exercise vast powers. Wait'll he gets to fill KENNEDY's and probably GINSBERG's seats.

Remember when Bill CLINTON and OBAMA were labelled as LAME DUCKS who couldn't do anything because of Repuke obstruction, couldn't even get a nominee to have a hearing, much less a vote. TWITLER will be doing his TWITLER jig at any moment.

Besides KENNEDY's history, there's his recent history of hobnobbing with Ivanka and one or two of his sons having jobs in the TWITLER cartel.




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Response to lapucelle (Original post)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:51 AM

23. The Janus ruling is also coming up

It will end labor as we know it. So yeah. Fuck the 3rd party voters—

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Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #23)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:34 AM

33. Yep

With Roberts writing this decision, the Janus decision is likely written by Alito.

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Response to lapucelle (Original post)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:57 AM

26. Dont thank them the democratic voters did this to themselves

Many People think voting is a fkg game . Well get ready for a whole lot of 5-4 pain because hillary was too close to wall street and oh yea her emails .

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Response to Fullduplexxx (Reply #26)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:30 AM

32. Democratic voters voted for HRC in 2016.

People who voted third party or who are so lazy and entitled that they stayed home because they weren't "inspired" and their vote wasn't sufficiently "earned" are not Democratic voters.

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Response to lapucelle (Reply #32)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:46 AM

36. I know , personally know, dems that didnt im pretty sure they werent the only ones

I remember seeing the arguments right here about hillary being too close to wall street. Dont delude yourself that is how thing DONTget done

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Response to Fullduplexxx (Reply #36)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 11:06 AM

37. Are these people still your friends?

Did they vote for Trump or one of the third party spoilers? Do they live in swing states?

You should counsel them to be careful not to play the useful idiot for propaganda peddlers the next time around and advise them to take responsibility and apologize for the damage they helped to cause. Your admonitions concerning delusions are better directed at them.

History will not easily absolve your friends. Nor should it.

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Response to lapucelle (Original post)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:09 AM

30. But as long as we stay civil, everything will turn out fine, amirite? n/t

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Response to Blaukraut (Reply #30)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:35 AM

35. Right! Look at all the credit we got for going high when they went low...

 

..our need to be loved by the arbiters of civility in DC like David Brooks and his ilk is paying dividends.

Clearly voters wanted "bipartisan and sensible" solutions. Clearly they rewarded us for our years of being nice and taking the high road and reaching across the aisle.

Let's make sure we keep doing that when we are in power again.

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Response to lapucelle (Original post)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:17 AM

31. They are phony frauds who have consistently, since at least 2000, misled and lied to impressionable

vulnerable folks to bring us to where we are today, and as far as I am concerned their hands are full of blood, and while they will never suffer the consequences of their fraud because of their means, many of those they misled will never recover from it



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