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Tue Jun 26, 2018, 08:59 PM

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez!!

Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call
Don't stand in the doorway
Don't block up the hall
For he that gets hurt
Will be he who has stalled
There's a battle outside
And it is ragin'.
It'll soon shake your windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'.

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Reply Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez!! (Original post)
Power 2 the People Jun 2018 OP
Donkees Jun 2018 #1
disillusioned73 Jun 2018 #2
Guy Whitey Corngood Jun 2018 #3
nycbos Jun 2018 #4
Power 2 the People Jun 2018 #8
shanny Jun 2018 #12
nycbos Jun 2018 #14
Power 2 the People Jun 2018 #16
nycbos Jun 2018 #17
shanny Jun 2018 #20
nycbos Jun 2018 #24
Power 2 the People Jun 2018 #25
shanny Jun 2018 #18
nycbos Jun 2018 #19
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shanny Jun 2018 #52
Power 2 the People Jun 2018 #56
shanny Jun 2018 #70
KPN Jun 2018 #44
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joshcryer Jun 2018 #34
nycbos Jun 2018 #35
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H2O Man Jun 2018 #72
Power 2 the People Jun 2018 #5
mvd Jun 2018 #6
leftstreet Jun 2018 #7
InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2018 #81
Iliyah Jun 2018 #9
shanny Jun 2018 #10
Tarheel_Dem Jun 2018 #11
SubjectTrip Jun 2018 #13
melman Jun 2018 #15
brooklynite Jun 2018 #21
Power 2 the People Jun 2018 #45
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brooklynite Jun 2018 #69
Power 2 the People Jun 2018 #71
H2O Man Jun 2018 #73
KPN Jun 2018 #76
LonePirate Jun 2018 #22
Retrograde Jun 2018 #29
Power 2 the People Jun 2018 #33
joshcryer Jun 2018 #38
Power 2 the People Jun 2018 #47
joshcryer Jun 2018 #49
Power 2 the People Jun 2018 #55
joshcryer Jun 2018 #67
disillusioned73 Jun 2018 #88
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seaglass Jun 2018 #23
Donkees Jun 2018 #27
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Power 2 the People Jun 2018 #37
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Response to Power 2 the People (Original post)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:01 PM

1. Congratulations to @Ocasio2018 on your primary victory tonight!

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Response to Power 2 the People (Original post)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:02 PM

2. Hell yeah!!!!

 

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Response to Power 2 the People (Original post)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:03 PM

3. Cool! nt

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Response to Power 2 the People (Original post)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:04 PM

4. Boooooooooooooooooo

If we took back the house we would have had a senior leader from NYC. Now we have other no name backbencher.

A defeat for reasoned leadership and experience.

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Response to nycbos (Reply #4)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:14 PM

8. It's about the future of our country not just NYC

As a New Yorker you should know that we don't take a back seat to anyone when it comes to fighting the good fight. I'm sure Chuck Schumer's door will always be open to Congresswoman Ocasio-Cortez to make sure NYC concerns are being heard by both houses.

Rejoice! A Latina congresswoman!

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Response to nycbos (Reply #4)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:19 PM

12. Because reasoned leadership and experience

 

have been doing so well for us lately

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Response to shanny (Reply #12)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:25 PM

14. We don't use it anymore

Hillary Clinton wasn't pure enough for the far left. She was "around for too long" It's a symbol of dismissing of qualifications and experience.

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Response to nycbos (Reply #14)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:30 PM

16. Bullshit

Hillary got 3 million more votes than that asshole and 66 million over all. That means that most all "purists" who voted for Bernie voted for her in the general.

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Response to Power 2 the People (Reply #16)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:33 PM

17. Tell that to the 80,000 voters in WI, MI and OA

Many people didn't;t show up. "Because they couldn't vote for Hillary" because they were no difference. Stein got more than Trumps margin of victory in all those states.

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Response to nycbos (Reply #17)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:35 PM

20. why is there never any

 

concern expressed about the 8 MILLION Obama to Trump voters?

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Response to shanny (Reply #20)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:38 PM

24. There should be.

Not sure we can win them back. He won in 2008 because the financial crisis that is what made us "ready for a black President" In 2012 his campaign in the Midwest was "I know you hate you boss doesn't Romney look like your boss"


Trump's campaign was based on blaming immigrants for peoples problems. And sexism.


They then thought immigrants were taking their jobs and they couldn't bare the thought of a woman as president.

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Response to nycbos (Reply #17)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:39 PM

25. The Greens and Libertarians always stay in to maintain ballot access.

Putin pumped up the Greens campaign and his plan worked like a charm.

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Response to nycbos (Reply #14)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:33 PM

18. it would appear the party is moving left

 

and, yes, away from "reasoned leadership and experience"...which has been failing much more than symbolically since at least 2000. There's an old expression: lead, follow or get out of the way.

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Response to shanny (Reply #18)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:34 PM

19. I want a 50 state strategy.

Find candidates that can win everywhere. There are places we cannot win by moving left.

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Response to nycbos (Reply #19)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:40 PM

26. Well apparently we CAN win by moving left in NYC

 

and I bet we could by moving left in, say, CA--so why the resistance to doing that? Why do we defer to incumbents, even when those incumbents are out of touch with their districts and constituents? A safe Senate seat in CA is not going to become less safe if Diane Feinstein isn't in it. Just for an example.

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Response to shanny (Reply #26)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:01 PM

32. I see your point but we have to be careful

Only a Doug Jones type could have won in Alabama. Manchin walks a tight rope in WV because it's dead red Trump country.

Once we get real progressives in the majority and make real changes, poor red-state rednecks will see the results it will break the fever and give them a reason to vote Blue.

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Response to Power 2 the People (Reply #32)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:07 PM

36. I agree.

 

But I also think we have little to lose in red states by running Somebody Completely Different. We ran a candidate in Georgia's special election last spring (Ossoff in the 6th district) who did everything--according to Joy Reid--except have an R after his name...and he underperformed Hillary. In the age of twitler.

Changing a losing game is what we need, and yes, the fever could break with at least the 8 million Obama-to-Trump voters.

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Response to shanny (Reply #36)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:14 PM

43. I hear ya

Ossoff tried to be Republican lite rather than progressive. We need locals who really know their districts.

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Response to Power 2 the People (Reply #43)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:30 PM

52. His district was heavily Republican and he knew that.

 

That's how he ran. What we should try--imo--is not trying to appeal to the mythical moderates, but actually staking out some new ground. (If we are losing in these districts already what difference does it make?) We should be fighting these battles on our terms, not theirs. Seems to me we are always conceding the framing.

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Response to shanny (Reply #52)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:36 PM

56. Seems to me we are always conceding the framing.

Understatement of the century.

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Response to Power 2 the People (Reply #56)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 11:14 PM

70. yup.

 

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Response to shanny (Reply #26)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:17 PM

44. And without Wall St money.

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Response to KPN (Reply #44)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:21 PM

48. Yup. Even better.

 

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Response to nycbos (Reply #4)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:45 PM

28. It's ok.

 

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Response to nycbos (Reply #4)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:57 PM

31. Try Eliot Engel (NY CD-16) then for a senior leader from the NYC area.

Part of his district is the northern part of the Bronx, and if the Democrats win the House, he becomes the chair of the House Foreign Affairs Committee (he's currently the ranking Democrat)

And right now, he's crushing his three opponents in his primary.

https://www.lohud.com/story/news/politics/elections/2018/06/26/cd-16-primary-election-results-congress/731128002/

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Response to nycbos (Reply #4)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:06 PM

34. She'll do fine, like Obama did.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #34)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:07 PM

35. She is NO Barack Obama

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Response to nycbos (Reply #35)

Wed Jun 27, 2018, 12:01 AM

78. How do you know? She's 28. Give her a chance.

You seem bothered by this? Why? I donít get it.

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Response to KPN (Reply #78)

Wed Jun 27, 2018, 12:29 AM

85. Because Obama was a once in a lifetime candidate

It's always interesting to me that a lot of the OR folks seem to give him the respect he deserves only grudgingly. She hasn't done a thing yet. I wish her luck. She earned this. But lets tap the brakes on the Obama comparisons. It's ludicrous.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #85)

Wed Jun 27, 2018, 12:30 AM

86. I'm glad you wish her luck. That's what we should all be doing.

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Response to KPN (Reply #78)

Wed Jun 27, 2018, 07:07 AM

87. Because Barack Obama comes around once in a generation.

She is bright and could be a good congresswomen and I'll admit if I'm wrong there.

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Response to nycbos (Reply #4)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:38 PM

58. Yep. A victory of empty rhetoric over experience and leadership. nt

 

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Response to nycbos (Reply #4)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:46 PM

62. Oh like Chuck Schumer?

NO thanks. I'd rather look to the other coast for new leadership. California is bursting at the seams with qualified, passionate, and principled leaders.

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Response to nycbos (Reply #4)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 11:10 PM

68. I am glad she won

But, I understand your position as well
Having a Senior member from the majority party is pretty important

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Response to nycbos (Reply #4)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 11:25 PM

72. Lions and tigers and bears!

Oh my!

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Response to Power 2 the People (Original post)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:05 PM

5. She is truly the face of her district

Loved her commercials. They were great. Each one was like "here I am,here's where I'm from and here's what I believe in."

So glad for her and her district. Best news in a horrible news day.

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Response to Power 2 the People (Original post)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:07 PM

6. Really good news on a dark day in American politics

Nice to see a big progressive breakthrough! We've had more state level wins than national so far.

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Response to Power 2 the People (Original post)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:10 PM

7. She ran on Medicare For All !!

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Response to leftstreet (Reply #7)

Wed Jun 27, 2018, 12:13 AM

81. Yes, and ran on many other issues in line with Bernie's positions... it's no wonder she won!

Ocasio-Cortez for President 2028.

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Response to Power 2 the People (Original post)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:17 PM

9. Congrats!

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Response to Power 2 the People (Original post)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:17 PM

10. Yea!

 

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Response to Power 2 the People (Original post)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:18 PM

11. OR finally won one. YaY!




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Response to Power 2 the People (Original post)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:20 PM

13. An amazing end to an otherwise very crappy day

 

She gives me hope!

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Response to Power 2 the People (Original post)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:28 PM

15. Excellent news

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Response to Power 2 the People (Original post)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:35 PM

21. What policies will Ocasio-Cortez offer that will help deliver national votes to the Democrats?

She has a safe seat; the national Party does not.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #21)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:19 PM

45. Her policy sheet was listed in a post above

Progressive policies win. Even Chuck Schumer and Kirstin Gillibrand are starting to lean our way.

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Response to Power 2 the People (Reply #45)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:37 PM

57. Show me how her progressive policies sell in PA, OH, MI, WI...

...where we have to win back seats.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #57)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:50 PM

64. How?

Ask Sherrod Brown and Marcie Kaptur in Ohio.
Ask Conor Lamb and Bob Casey in Pennsylvania
Ask Tammy Baldwin in Wisconsin
Ask Debbie Stabenow in Michigan

We can do this!

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Response to Power 2 the People (Reply #64)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 11:11 PM

69. None of these are a self-described Berniecrat from a safe district...

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #69)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 11:22 PM

71. Politicians never start a parade

They just join them.

Let's make ours so large they have no choice but to join it.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #21)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 11:26 PM

73. She will be

representing human beings. That's a good thing.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #21)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 11:59 PM

76. Policies she will offer? Simple, what people want.

We just havenít been following the peoplesí lead. She has already and sounds like she will.

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Response to Power 2 the People (Original post)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:36 PM

22. Seven months ago, she was a bartender. Now she could (should) be headed to Congress.




Jeff Stein Verified account @JStein_WaPo

This photo is from Nov. 14, 2017. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, 28, was then working as a bartender.

Less than a year later, she defeated the likely next Speaker of the House, and will almost certainly be the youngest woman ever elected to Congress

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Response to LonePirate (Reply #22)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:47 PM

29. Who decided Crowley would be the next speaker

Other than Crowley.

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Response to Retrograde (Reply #29)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:05 PM

33. I'm sure he'll be happy to earn 10x his salary as a DC lobbyist

Sad but true.

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Response to Power 2 the People (Reply #33)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:11 PM

38. Lobbying is a constitutional right.

Redress of grievances.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #38)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:21 PM

47. So was 3/5 of a man

We need to fix the process just as we have done in the past.

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Response to Power 2 the People (Reply #47)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:23 PM

49. Are you kidding me?

Are you seriously comparing redress of grievances to fucking 3/5ths of a man? You have to be kidding / trolling. Have to be.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #49)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:34 PM

55. Bullshit. You used the constitution to justify lobbying and the perversity of it

I said the constitution isn't always perfect and needs to be modified from time to time to make a more perfect union.

The 3/5 was an example of things that were egregiously wrong that needed to be fixed. Just like the destruction of our democracy through lobbying has to be fixed.

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Response to Power 2 the People (Reply #55)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 11:09 PM

67. I didn't "justify" lobbying, I explained why it exists.

Lobbying is a constitutional right. There is no justification necessary.

We have to have a means to talk to our Representatives.

Lobbying in its current form has issues though because they're allowed to do things like draft legislation. Sure they can't buy a congressman a cup of coffee but they can hand over a folder with pre-written legislation in it for their thing. How does that even make sense I don't even know (the draft had to have costed money for example).

There has been a lot of effort to reform lobbying. I think we need mediators, to be frank, third parties that don't let lobbyists do anything but talk about a subject. Should reduce influence greatly.

In any case I doubt Crowly does anything, I expect he'll take a 2 year vacation and run again after this young lady gets shown what DC is like.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #67)

Wed Jun 27, 2018, 08:57 AM

88. "We have to have a means to talk to our Representatives."

 

We do, it's called a ballot box, how about some town halls??.. I know it's a crazy concept, spend some time speaking with your constituents instead of backdoor meetings with legal bribery merchants - aka lobbyists..

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Response to Power 2 the People (Reply #33)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 11:51 PM

74. And that's the problem right there.

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Response to Power 2 the People (Original post)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:37 PM

23. Not a NYer but from the outside this looks like a good win.

Congrats to her supporters

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Response to Power 2 the People (Original post)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:44 PM

27. Sen. Sanders: Congratulations to @Ocasio2018 on her extraordinary upset victory tonight!

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Response to Donkees (Reply #27)

Wed Jun 27, 2018, 12:06 AM

80. Thx for posting.

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Response to Donkees (Reply #27)

Wed Jun 27, 2018, 12:17 AM

82. Congratulations indeed!! Bernie has it EXACTLY right... as usual!!

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Response to Power 2 the People (Original post)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 09:52 PM

30. Congrats.

If it weren't for Susan Srandan's endorsement, I might have cheered her on.

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Response to RandySF (Reply #30)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:10 PM

37. You give Sarandon way too much credit

She probably influenced less than 500 voters in the general election.

That's like saying Scott Baio pushed Trump over the top.

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Response to Power 2 the People (Reply #37)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:11 PM

39. She's still dead to me.

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Response to RandySF (Reply #39)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:48 PM

63. +1000

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Response to RandySF (Reply #30)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:11 PM

40. Demographics, out with the old, and general sentiments won it.

She will do fine, but I fear where just repeating history. We went after the inexperienced guy with Obama and see where it led us.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #40)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:29 PM

50. I love President Obama

He is a good man with his heart in the right place. He would have been much more successful legislatively if he ran in 2020 rather than 2008. He spent his first 7 years trying to get the Republicans to like him. He didn't realize there was pure evil in the world and they have (R) next to their names. By the time he realized they had no plans to negotiate or help him pass anything, it was too late.

It would have been so much better for the country if Hillary would have won in 2008 and passed the torch to Obama in 2016. She would have never put up with their games and knew exactly who they were.

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Response to Power 2 the People (Reply #50)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:42 PM

60. No, he did fine for having the votes for 72 days, total, in 8 years.

What he failed at demonstrably and absolutely was the inability to grow the party and put on his "walking shoes."

We will see if these new faces will grow the party by fighting for others.

What is important about tonight is how many Democrats are quickly conceding and putting their support behind the new people.

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Response to RandySF (Reply #30)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:13 PM

41. you would disregard an excellent candidate

 

because of what some old crank said about her?

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Response to shanny (Reply #41)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:29 PM

51. Apparently some people think Sarandon has reverse infallibility

 

Or at least, they consider Sarandon's judgment to be more important than their own.

Seems kind of warped to me, but everyone gets to make their choices as they see fit.

For my part, I don't think anyone has either infallibility or reverse infallibility.

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Response to Jim Lane (Reply #51)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:30 PM

53. +1

 

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Response to RandySF (Reply #30)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:13 PM

42. I'm prepared to let go of any bitterness from the last election...

and move forward to take back the House and Senate. Are you?

Congrats, A O-C!

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Response to chwaliszewski (Reply #42)

Wed Jun 27, 2018, 12:19 AM

84. Well said!! That's the kind of example I was hoping others would be setting as well.

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Response to RandySF (Reply #30)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 11:08 PM

66. I'm glad she won

But, I'm with you on Sarandon

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Response to Power 2 the People (Original post)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:19 PM

46. Very authentic passionate leader.

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Response to Power 2 the People (Original post)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:31 PM

54. Our Elder Dems Need to Become Mentors NOW!

 

Sure I love Nancy. Now please, I'm 70 years old, and I'm saying it's time to help our young Democrats with your wisdom. Give up the reins and whisper in their ears and watch the country rush to our Fresh, New Democratic party!

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Response to MarkEzra (Reply #54)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:53 PM

65. I largely agree with you.

We need young fighters with the old guard mentoring them. That is how the best situations work.

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Response to MarkEzra (Reply #54)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 11:54 PM

75. Yup. Exactly.

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Response to Power 2 the People (Original post)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:38 PM

59. Congratulations to Ms. Ocasio-Cortez.

She ran a solid bottom-up campaign and was rewarded for it.

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Response to Power 2 the People (Original post)

Tue Jun 26, 2018, 10:44 PM

61. Perfect

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Response to Power 2 the People (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2018, 12:04 AM

79. Congrats from Canada!!!



-Puzzler

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Response to Power 2 the People (Original post)

Wed Jun 27, 2018, 12:17 AM

83. Great ray of sunshine on an otherwise

distressing day. This is wonderful news. The changing of the guard is underway.

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Thu Feb 21, 2019, 08:05 PM

89. Lovin' it still... what a sweet victory!!

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