When you ain't got nothing, you got nothing to lose - Kennedy retiring

[rufus dog]

Doesn't seem like that much of a stretch to do the following:

1. Let Mango Mussolini make a nomination
2. Dems refuse to confirm anyone, attend any hearings until after the election.
3. Make the election a referendum on the SC pick
4. If Dems win the House/Senate provide one compromise - Merrick Garland
5. If Dems lose it is over anyway.


Look, the Country won't last until 2020, time for full on fight. When the media sides with Pukes over the delays, tell them to FUCK OFF!

[Aristus]

1. How can the Dems delay the confirmation?

What procedural trick is open to us?

[rufus dog]

2. Repubs did it in 2016

Election year - too important of a decision to be taken up prior to the election, blah blah blah, Let the people speak.

[Aristus]

3. They had the majority.

Procedure was under their control.

[rufus dog]

6. they would have to go Nuclear

Again, nothing to lose. You are trying to argue civility, precedence, while I am agrueing you are looking at the situation incorrectly. If they aren't stopped there will be no use for precedence.

[WillowTree]

13. Please provide your definition of "going nuclear" in this specific situation.

What, specifically, do you propose that they do that would prevent Trump from nominating and the Senate Republicans from providing consent?

[DetroitLegalBeagle]

4. GOP could do it because they controlled the Senate then

And they still do now. There is nothing the Dems can do to block a nominee or confirmation. Nothing.

[Still In Wisconsin]

5. Problem in your logic: 1 happens, then 2 happens, then McTurtle executes so-called "nuclear option"

and we get Justice Giuliani, or Justice Jeanine, or some such far-right TRUMP sycophant. Are there any rules about SC Justices needing a law degree? Hell, how about Justice Jared or Justice Ivanka? Hell, why not Justice Lewandowski or Justice David Duke? The possibilities are endless!

[rufus dog]

7. So.....

To beat them we must think like them. Did they give a flying fuck about who HRC would appoint if she won?

WHY THE FUCK NOT!

Because they knew they could get away with Garland as a worst case.

[Still In Wisconsin]

8. I still don't understand how you plan to stop TRUMP from appointing whomever the fuck he wants.

They control Congress right now! TRUMP can literally do whatever the fuck he wants, because the party in power won't do anything to stop him. Sure, they might be "concerned" or even "troubled" by his actions, but in the end they will let him do whatever he wants. Hell, most of them will help him.

[rufus dog]

9. I fucking don't care!!!

For fucksake at some point people need to stand up and fight. tRump and Mitch would have to go Nuclear!

LET THEM!

If they win the Country is toast

[Still In Wisconsin]

10. They have already won and the country is already toast. Want to rage against what's left?

Go for it. It's a valid response. Just don't criticize those of us who choose a quieter exit from this hell.

[rufus dog]

11. then get in the back seat

Some of us are fighters.

[Still In Wisconsin]

12. Go for it. Good luck to ya. I've been fighting for decades, now I'm done. Time to find out what

comes after this life. I hope you win, too.

[Amishman]

14. The 'nuclear option' is changing Senate rules, they already did this for Gorsuch

We played every card possible on Gorsuch. We have zero leverage and no cards to play.