Good ol' New York Times eggs on a Democratic civil war ahead of the midterms.

[RandySF]

A New York Times editorial calls for new House Democratic leadership:

For too long, this regime has clung to power at the expense of future leaders. Neither of Ms. Pelosi’s two chief deputies, Steny Hoyer, the party whip, and Jim Clyburn, the assistant leader, is a remotely viable successor. Like Ms. Pelosi, both men are just shy of 80 and have occupied top-tier posts for over a decade. At this point, the caucus leadership has gone from stale to downright ossified.

https://politicalwire.com/2018/07/01/new-leadership-needed-for-house-democrats/

[TygrBright]

1. Don't know as I disagree, actually... n/t

[Polly Hennessey]

2. I think I agree.

New century; new ideas. Schumer/Pelosi call for civility may have cut it in the 20th Century, not so much in the 21st.

[mcar]

3. Screw the NYT

Sticking to that tired old "Dems in disarray" nonsense.

[northremembers]

4. I agree

I like Nancy. She's a fighter and isn't afraid to stand up to Trump. She isn't a visionary, though. If we took control of the House she would fight Trump but have little to put forward in terms of leading the country. We need someone inspirational. Someone the country can look to and say "I want to be a part of that". That's the anti-Trump.

Whether Nancy steps aside or not, there is no civil war. That may be good for media ratings. Just like there's no real dissent on the Republican's side. There will be a lot of fresh faces who will get air time challenging Trump in the lead up to 2020. Hopefully, Nancy will see the need for fresh blood by then.

[uponit7771]

5. Because they're not threatened, they're comfortable

[lapucelle]

6. The NYT needs to take responsibility and aopologize

for its responsibility in helping to put Trump in power.

[Scurrilous]

7. @#$% the NYTimes.

[scarletwoman]

8. I'd like to see new leadership also.

Pelosi's chiding of Maxine Waters was the last straw for me.

I haven't forgotten her "impeachment is off the table" - no consequences for lying this country into war!

The right wing has fought a long, dirty war against all of us, while the Congressional Dems worry about offending them.

[kentuck]

11. I think the leadership does go a little stale when they are in for too long...

We need some fresh blood, ready to fight for the people.

[CrispyQ]

12. This.

The Schumer/Pelosi call for civility was my last straw too. The GOP has been playing the long game while dem leadership has played nice for 40 years. Someone better get in the ring with Maxine & start throwing some punches or we're going to lose our country.

[vi5]

15. Chiding of Maxine, diminishing Ocasio Cortez's victory....

It reeks to me. She's not as bad as Schumer but we do need someone else in both roles.

[still_one]

9. The NY Times did it all through 2016, so should come as no surprise. In fact I cancelled my

subscription to the NY Times when they had a front page story over a year ago blaming the Democrats and the "hubris" of Obama for causing the republicans to reject global warming

"The Republican Party’s fast journey from debating how to combat human-caused climate change to arguing that it does not exist is a story of big political money, Democratic hubris in the Obama years and a partisan chasm that grew over nine years like a crack in the Antarctic shelf, favoring extreme positions and uncompromising rhetoric over cooperation and conciliation."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/03/us/politics/republican-leaders-climate-change.html

There is a lot more false equivalencies from that paper than just that Judy Miller lied to us about WMDs in Iraq

They have come a long way from the Pentagon Papers, and it isn't a good thing either

[c-rational]

17. Good post-completely agree. I also cancelled my NYT subscription when they wrote 'Drump is

redefining the Presidency' - no he trashing it. The Times employs word-smiths. They understand what they do. Your post also made me reread a letter to the Times I wrote on Judy back in 2005 stating Judy betrayed this country by being a shill for the administration, and was aided and abetted by the Times, which printed her ruinously false articles on the front page. For a democracy to breathe it must have a free press. However, the fourth estate is dead, and died with the falsehoods written by Judy and printed by the Times. When will we learn.

[Kaleva]

10. This statement "While Mr. Crowley's loss may have come as a shock to everyone"...

is kinda funny as my guess is most of us had no idea who Crowley was.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/30/opinion/sunday/make-way-for-young-democratic-leaders.html

I think the idea of a "Democratic civil war ahead of the midterms" is laughable as we all, or most of us anyways, know who the enemy is (Hint: it isn't us) and how important it is to win this fall.

[czarjak]

13. Step aside...

[Midwestern Democrat]

14. Well, today I just thought of something - the Democratic House leadership team of the 1990s were

both born AFTER the current House Democratic leadership team - Dick Gephardt was born in 1941 and David Bonior was born in 1945; in contrast, Nancy Pelosi and Jim Clyburn were both born in 1940 and Steny Hoyer was born in 1939. Think of that - the Democratic House leaders of OVER 20 YEARS AGO are younger than the current Democratic House leaders. Yeah, I don't think it's all that radical to think our current House leadership is getting too old when they're older than their predecessors from two decades ago.

[oasis]

16. We're not about to experiment with neophytes. Leadership can bring

the more talented ones along and promote them into the upper ranks by 2020.

Swapping out experienced leaders for the sake of cosmetics would begin a cycle of discontent and confusion. A recipe for disaster.

[dalton99a]

18. Yeah, how about them emails

[Tatiana]

19. It is time to pass the torch.

Yes, the NYT (and others in the media) love to see the Democrats making fools of themselves, but even a stopped watch is correct twice a day.

Two of the top three need to step down and make way for younger people. If Pelosi steps down, I would like to see Hoyer or Clyburn stay for another term. If Pelosi stays on, Hoyer and Clyburn need to make way for the new school (Swalwell, Schiff, Castro, Bustos).

The biggest and boldest ideas should be coming from our leaders, but they're not. They are being dragged by the grassroots and the base. It needs to be the other way around. The leadership needs to communicate the plans and mobilize the people and grassroots to put pressure on the other elected officials to make it happen.

[rockfordfile]

20. Who comes up with this type of crap?